Topic : 11/24 Great School Debate

. I would rather kids know how to use condoms and understand their own bodies functions and the harsh, cold, real consequences of them before they know about algebra. Why? Because being ignorant of algebra isn't a threat to the masses. AIDS is. Unwanted kids are

You make a good point. I concede. Seriously, as things are now it only makes sense to teach sex ed in public schools. Parents are so depndent on schools right now that it would get pretty ugly if the responsibility was suddenly shifted to parents.

I don't fault people who choose to educate their children about sex on their own.

I do wish a nice common middle ground could be found as far as what to teach. Meaning, not the "well you're going to do it anyway so this is what you do" kind of talk - and not abstinence only either. And I wish we could be sure the sex ed teachers were competent. Most importantly,I think parents should be able to opt out and should be well informed on what exactly is being taught.

Too true, too true. We have bad examples running around everywhere. But, I think it's more in line with the crumble of society as a whole. We could also say "Teachers does not equal a GOOD teacher." Or even, "Parent does not equal a GOOD parent."

I believe this article is related to the creation/science conversation going earlier. (LOL, maybe it will even make the conversation "on topic".) Apparently teaching creation science is the new argument against homeschooling:

With varying degrees of red-tape, home schooling is allowed in each and every one of our 50 states.

Obviusly there were and are political reasons for this. Lots of home-schooling parents run with the creationists. Creationists are easily led, and they vote.

But as to other reasons for this blanket surrender to home school advocates- I for one, have never understood why.

Of course I know that our public school systems are plagued by problems, but I have to think that through time- even now- our public schools have nurtured tens of millions of solid citizens. And surely, our private schools have nurtured and produced millions more of our best people.

I'm not blind to the fact that many solid citizens have been home-schooled. I've even heard of home schoolers winning science fairs, and being accepted to prestigious colleges. Because I admit that home schooling works in some cases, I don't view myself as a bigot in that regard.

Still, when I look at the bigger picture, I am far from assured that the blanket legality of home-schooling serves society too well.

I'm troubled by the fact that a significant percentage of home schooling parents choose this option because of an overriding feeling that they want their children to pursue curricula from theology or received wisdom rather than a scientific perspective.

I wonder how many of these types of home-schooled kids take the assumptions of say, 6,500 year-old earths and other lack of respect for scientific inquiry into adulthood. Will these people be on equal preparatory footing for jobs where scientific inquisitiveness, technical insight or critical thinking skills are far more necessary than rote recitation?

I'm also troubled, frankly, by parents who find the world overly complex, and want to keep their students at home in the service of simplicity and protectiveness.

I'm equally troubled by the fact that a non-trivial number of home-schoolers are taught in that way because their parents are overly rugged individualists who lack the impulse or skills to mix in as collaborative members of everyday society.

Well, the world is overly complex. Lots of different types of people, of cultural forces. Hiding off somewhere and teaching your kids away from the influence of a socially formative school environment can make it harder for your children to learn about the give-and-take of life in our present-day culture.

Listen, I am not advocating that home-schooling should be outlawed. Of course there should be exemptions- where the child is in physical danger in their public school, when the child is physically immobile, where the family lives in a remote geographical area. In these cases- and when a parent professionally trained as a qualified educator is available- sure, home schooling would be OK.

But as to the home schooler subjected to beliefs that run counter to scientific inquiry and the principles in which knowledge is pursued and attained- I say send them to school and let the parents devote some of their off-hours to teaching what they feel their kids should know. One such scenario: kid comes home and tells her parent that "today our teacher said the universe is 14.5 billion years old, but we learned in Sunday School God created the world 6,500 years ago.."

Then, and only then, is the most appropriate time for the parent to get involved.

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Personally, I believe the argument is lame. It only makes sense that parents will teach their children according to their belief system. Also, it only makes sense that regardless of which "origins of life" theory you teach your children will learn the opposing views. Come on... information age..... eager young minds..... they will hear the other side by simply having a conversation, right?

If this new argument against homeschooling is successful it could effect private school teachings as well. It's funny, I don't think they realize homeschools and private schools follow the same rules and are legally the same.

Also, the argument that creation fed homeschooled children cannot make it in the science career field is laughable. Really, how many science careers focus on which theory you believe started the world? It's such a small chapter in a HUGE book, so to speak.

See, I don't see it as being a huge issue. I understand what you are saying and I agree with you that creation is not a science. However, I appreciate someone's right to educate their children as such.

Besides, I believe the vast majority of scientific career choices would not be effected either way by this one lesson. I have an online friend who is agnostic and works in a lab  studying different viruses. The vast majority of the people working along side her are Christian, some of whom believe in creation. There are many fields in which this just isn't an issue.

And when I say "theory" I am speaking as to the basic sense of the word. It's a theory because we honestly don't know what happened. We're all making really good guesses and someone may just be right. Personally, I think it's a bit arrogant to think we actually know how all this came about. But, that's just me. ;)

For those of you who homeschool, do you do so year round? Or do you take part or all of the summer off?

gtrudeau

For those of you who homeschool, do you do so year round? Or do you take part or all of the summer off?

gtrudeau