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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 1:14 pm PST

This situation is very disturbing

I agree that it is important to not rush to judgement because in America one is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.  However, Jeremy's behavior on the Dr. Phil show is not helping his case if he is innocent.  He is being evasive, hostile, and uncooperative which makes his arguments seem less credible.  He comes across as arrogant and my gut tells me that he is a smooth talker who has learned from years of experience how to be manipulative. If he was really innocent then he would voluntarily agree to supervision during his visits.  This issue is not about him and his ego.  I actually feel sorry for Jeremy.  I do believe that he was abused as a child even though he denies it. I think he is in an arrested state of development and that he was never able to move forward emotionally due to the traumas that he endured as a child.  I believe that he is attracted to young children and girls because emotionally he is on their level.  He is stuck emotionaly at the age of 12 or 13.  He is still a wounded child but he is refusing help.  Maybe because it would be too painful and scary to face what he has been through.  But, unfortunately, I do believe that he is a danger to his daughter and that he will always be a threat to children.  It is too bad that something more dramatic and horrible will have to happen in order for their to be concrete evidence against him.  He is relatively skilled at hiding his sexually deviant behavior.  It is his daughter who will continually suffer until he makes a big enough mistake that will demonstrate that he has a problem.  All we can do is pray that it happens quickly so that his daughter does not have to continue to endure this abuse.   I wish that CPS workers were all required to have professional licenses in order to perform their jobs.  So many of them are not well trained and they don't have the ability to know when situations need to be taken seriously.  If Jeremy ever is found guilty of these charges then the CPS worker on this case also needs to be held accountable and maybe the judge as well because that would be an indication that they all have very poor judgement.  After all, in these situations CPS and the courts are the only hope we have in terms of protecting our children.  If they don't have the insight and proper judgement to protect our children in cases that are not always clear cut then what are we as parents to do?  We rely on them to be able to make good decisions and air on the side of safety when a child's well -being is in jeopardy.  I don't think they are doing that in this case. 

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:14 pm PST

The system doesn't work

I am a single mom of a beautiful boy. When he was young I suspected his dad was physically abusing him. After several small incidents, (I did report them and nothing ever happened) it became more obvious each time he was around his dad that things were just not right and they didn't match the stories being told to me.

 

Two weeks before his first birthday he spent the night at his dads. The next day I came to pick him up. I noticed a burn on the top of his hand. It was in the top of his middle fingure, perfectly round, and centered. I took him straight to the childrens ER. It was a cigarette burn through 3 layers of skin. They had to numb the skin and scrape the ashe out of his fingure. I was histerical. After this I was interviewed by DCS, and they pretty much told me that they couldn't do anything. We were going threw a divorce and they acted as if I burnt my child to hurt his dad. That made no sense to me. After that he contracted a staff infectiion from the burn and whatever else he was exposed to over there. We were in and out of the hospital on his first birthday. Not once did his dad come see him at the hospital, not even on his birthday. The whole time we were there, I was interviewed by workers. They all made me feel as if I had done this to my child. They asked me how clean my house was, and if I ever left my child alone. As far as I know they never interviewed him. In the end, they told me that they do not get involved in custody cases. We were only separated and had not even filed anything yet. After it cleared up, he tried to take me to court to get visitation. I too almost went to Jail. I was not going let my child get hurt. So, I packed our stuff and left. I have moved several times. Each time I move I feel its totally worth it. I would do anything to keep my child safe. He is now almost 5 and I have had no contact with his father. I am still legally married, but someday I will get that taken care of. Some people may think that this is extreme, but you would do the same if your child was being hurt.

 

I have no faith in our court/legal systems. The people that know how to use it, abuse it. The people that need it, get hurt and treated very badly. There are so many stories of this I hear everyday. I think we need to look at the system and challenge it to do a better job. It seems to m like it hurts more children than protect them.

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:14 pm PST

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Today, this show really made me sick!!!!!  I can look at this guy and I can see guilt written all over his face.  He is so self absorbent!!!!  All he is worrying about is how he looks in all of this.  He is not taking Kaylee's best interest at heart.  He only seems to think about his self gratification when she is with him, and this really sickens me!!!!  To the mom......take your daughter and run!!!! Don't look back!!!!  He is a sick person!!!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:14 pm PST

Stressed out over Kaylie

Dear Dr. Phil

 

When I was young, I too was molested and there was NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE...this is such a sad story..I have worked in nursing and i have also had considerable contact with State workers and unfortunately they are not always " ON TOP" of everything...I really think there should be an investigation of the child protection agency in that town and state...if I was Kaylie's mother and grandmother, NOT ONLY WOULD I BE PICKETING, I would be contacting the President of the United States...and your wife, if she was in this awful situation  WOULD DO THE SAME THING OR MORE.  I also realize that unless they listen to you, there isnt anything you can do...i will be praying for this terrible situation...I am sorry, but I have also dealt with men like Jeremy and he is absolutely A BIG FAT LIAR...EVIL COMES OUT OF HIS EYES...i will pray for him too...tks for all that you and your wife and family do.  You are making a big difference in all the peoples lives who watch you...blessings, A VERY CONCERNED GRANDMOTHER

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:15 pm PST

Dr. Phil, I know there are good cops and Children Service workers out there but to claim they all do there job is a big gamble on your part to claim that when you have not been to each and every town in this nation and worked with each and every one of th

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I am from a small town in the US also. I have been a victim and I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that these Children Service Agencies are for the most a joke and DO NOT do their job as they should be.

 

I had a teacher in Hillsboro, Ohio grab my child so hard for talking in the lunch line that she left a bruise on my 7 year old daughter.

 

I instantly when my child told me what happened and showed me the bruise called Children Services to file a complaint and the local police dept.

 

I was shocked to find that that Children Services refused to come to speak with my child, also to take pictures and document the bruise. Take a statement, or anything.  The 911 call I made to get an officer to my home to look at this was a no help call in my opinion. At no time did any office show up or respond to my 911 call about abuse of my child!!!

 

I run a business and for security reasons have a TAPE RECORDER ON MY PHONE AT ALL TIMES FOR BUSINESS CALLS.  I taped Children Services and the local police and have it on tape them teeling me since it was a school teacher they felt we could handle it another way, like going to the school board. 

 

The cheif of police actually threatened to arrest me and my hubby for going to the school to deal with this after we were told by them and Children services to go there and deal with it without their help.

 

I have all of this on tape recorded calls so NO ONE can call me a liar.

 

I believe this mother and grandmother when they say the police and Children Services has not helped and because maybe they dont like her are now even going out of their way NOT to help her.

 

I believe all this because it is happening to me and my children.

My child had a civil right to have charges brought againse the teacher that assulted her and yet no constitutional or civil rights were upheld and NO charges were filed.

 

I have names of numerous other parents even a cop who have seen or who have had their child grabbed or pushed at this school and no matter who goes to the police even a police officer himself (with a child in this same school) could get NO HELP!!!!!

 

The Children Services and Police are a complete joke, they have never at any time I have ever needed them helped me or enforced my legal rights.  I can prove it if anyone wants to hear the tapes or see the pictures.

 

Jeremy is Guilty and if it were my child we would hide her until this matter was resolved. We all know that the police and Children Services will wait until that child is fully raped and ruined for life to say well now lets get involved. And for a judge to ignore all the evidence that was placed in front of her well that clearly shows that this system dont work when you can file charges on anyone for anything accept against the people who do the real crimes. 

 

I even tried to in my local town turn in a Domino's driver who had child porn at Domino's in the store for all to see of underage minors girls in very sexual positions,  I calIed my boss and then went home that night called the local police and my boss again for a private call at Domino's (i was manager of that store)  and was told by the local police that I had to give my name and sign a complaint they dont take annonymous tips on child rapist. I was also told by the owner of Dominos that they were so hard up for drivers that we should mind our own business.  Well guess what two weeks after that call I made asking for help and after Domino's refused to allow me to fire him for the child porn in the store this same man was arrested for the rape of a 2 1/2 year old child.  The police had a tip, did nothing, and now a child is raped. I bet there so proud of themselves arent they!!!! I can prove this also, my call would have been taped by the police and was by me, then its public record where he was working when arrested and for what.  Yet again no help from Police!! Needless to say after his arrest I felt so bad for not trying to do more turning this guy in I quit my job.

 

Dr. Phil, I know there are good cops and Children Service workers out there but to claim they all do there job is a big gamble on your part to claim that when you have not been to each and every town in this nation and worked with each and every one of them. You might want to take that statement back.  There is alot of people going through this same thing with their so called court, police and Children services.  We are all not lying!!!!!!

I totally agree.  We're not all liars, and Dr. Phil, I love you to pieces but you're wayyyy off the mark on this one. 

 

The same thing goes on here in Canada.  Most workers don't bother to look deep enough.  They see what is put in front of them to read, they sit for an hour or less and speak with all the people involved, most times they don't speak at all to the child in question, depending on the age.  They don't KNOW the person, they don't KNOW the child, but they automatically assume that because they have a 'better education' or make 'more money' or have 'that degree in child WHATEVER', that makes them the top authority in those people's lives.  They don't live with that child, they don't hear them scream and cry when they're supposed to go with the person that is 'hurting' them.  They don't hear them cry and beg not to go back again.

 

Kaylee's mother, if she is telling the truth, and I do believe she is, should take the damn jail time rather than send that little girl to jeremy, his father and his wife.  I would, most people I know would.  Not a chance in HELL would I be sending my baby off with someone I believed is hurting her, molesting her, touching her, or whatever. 

 

Defy the courts if need be, but keep that baby safe!!! 

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:15 pm PST

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when Dr. Phil said he didn't know of professionals that would blow off an accusation then he needs to check out indiana. it has hppened to my aunt they told her to stop calling and never went to check on the children. her son and his wife kidnapped the children and well the rest his history.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:15 pm PST

little boy, you are wrong about the facts here

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 First of all, this case brings the validity of Polygraph to question. Right now, I see Jeremy growing in confidence cos of contradictions in the polygraphs. Considering Jeremy's admissive reaction, bodily and verbally after the first polygraph result was read to him, it was clear he broke down. He didnt put up a good defence, he didnt do anything when his present woman was crying in shock of the result. He reacts in spots, whenever he sees a point to make, he's
He volunteered to work on the day he was to take the test, he denied molesting a lil boy years back until Dr Phil showed the court records. He has something up his sleeves, it's written all over him. The fact is, he may win more support as this case goes further, but the truth is govt agencies rely on facts to intervene, sometimes, fact arent sufficient, but the truth will sure emerge, you can bury the truth, but it will surely rise on the third day.
Kaylee's Mom and Granny are taking things to the extreme now and a lot of us dont agree with their strategies,  they are gradually loosing support by doing these and it's making the case more confusing.
All of these goes to show the level of human depravity, it has come to a time when dads are not trusted around daughters, a man and a woman is sexually attracted to their kind, insanity is dwelling amongst us now and ideals and values we used to hold tenanciously onto is waning.
Child Molestation and incest activities are going unreported in the America society and very soon, rights of 'doing whatever I want with my property...sorry ...my daughter is no one's business" will be sought and states govts will debate.

Help stop the truth decay, let go back to the manual for living...the bible.


you stated that it was jeremey that had molested a little boy years ago,  IT WAS NOT HIM,  that was a report about HIS father.  if you are going to post something please get the facts straight.  this story is messed up enough already.

 

like you bible quote, nice.  i like it and will use in in some emails.  thanks

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:16 pm PST

Such a liar

I don't know how any of you could think that this jerk isn't molesting his daughter. He is a habitual liar who can't keep his lies straight, and uses any excuse he can pull out of the air to try to justify his actions. That little girl is crying out for help! I am a mom to 3 young children, and the first time one of them would have said something like "he touched my pee-pee" would have been enough for me to call the cops. I can't believe that anyone would want to stick up for this sick pedophile. 3 year-olds don't lie about things like this, no matter what. He is the liar, it's quite obvious to anyone. Look at his eyes and facial expressions as he talks, you can spot every lie if you pay attention. I'm sorry, but this guy needs to spend a very long time in prison for what he's done to his innocent daughter.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:16 pm PST

Railroad Job & Questioning Dr. Phil

What is wrong with you people? Are you all parents ? Must not be because requardless of the constant fighting back and forth between the mother and father there is still a huge concern of why the child had to go to the HOSPITAL  with a 2cm tear Labia. That just don't happen for no reason at all and that's not something the mother can just coach the daughter intio saying and it seems like everyone is looking over that. I'm not saying that the mother is completely innocent and perfect but you better believe if it was my daughter and the same thing happened (Hospital) then you better bet your aXX that I would be doing the same thing she is and try to protect my daughter. No I don't think that she's going about it the right way but I do think that her intentions are good and true from her heart. And truthfully she's held it together better than I would have because I would have already climbed Jeremy' when the hospital inncident happened. The court system is the ones at fault here. What would it hurt for them to atleast open a investigation on this just to be on the safe side. That is what they get paid for to protect the children not just to go by there own opinions. The court system fails a lot of children everyday that's why our world is in the mess that it's in. I know I work with the cabnet of social services constantly and I'm a foster/adoptive parent and I see both sides of the court system.

Kallie's mother don't give up keep fighting for the safety of your daughter.

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:16 pm PST

Seems the type

The guy is a little on the creepy side, but if we took children away from every parent that just rubbed people the wrong way with their exterior looks/behavior, we'd have a ton of parent-less children.

 

The mother is a little over-the-top in her mission to convince everyone that her ex is guilty of molesting the daughter.

 

Where are all of the professionals that could step up to the plate and find out once and for all whether the man is innocent or guilty so the child can possibly resume a somewhat normal life?

 
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