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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:20:16 pm
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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 26, 2006, 10:13 am CST

Dr. Phil think about your position

Quote From: worriedgrandma

That's good for you but your case and Kaylee while similar are very different. 

 

1.  Your ex lives in a different state, I believe Kaylee's parents live within the same county maybe same town

2.  You have physical proof daughter's letters  and previous police report of physical abuse

 

3 your daughter is 15 years old, Kaylee is 3

 

4.  you had CPS fighting for you once school got involved but you know even in your case, it went on for a long time.  Why did you send her back after he threw her into a wall?

 

5.  Please don't assume that Krista can do anything more than she is doing.

 

I would suggest that if one suspect abuse, they gather facts  and document and if the state allows them to move to move as far from the perpetrator as possible or with facts petition for an exparte order to protect the child.

 

If the child is of school age, have child speak to couselor or teacher, a report by them is taken more serious.  When a parent reports abuse, the other parent will claim it is a custody issue.  If you can get the child a cell phone and let them know that they should use it if ever in danger again.  If child is old enough, the child should be told call police asap as soon as safe to do so.

 

 

Dr. Phil,

 

I respect and admire you but I am very confused about your position on Child protective Services. So many children fall through the cracks in this program and if you keep defending the people responsible for it, how will it ever change? i am from the San Francisco Bay area and an eight year old boy has just been tortured and died at the hands of his mother! Many children are abused in many different ways and left in the hands of people who need help because CPS has allowed it. Please help me to understand your position as I see a lot of failures with this systems. I realize it is the rprocess not the people but if the people who are working with the process and don;t take a stand who will?

 

 

 
November 26, 2006, 10:23 am CST

Why is he being given more chances?

   I don't understand why Jeremy is being given more chances to manipulate the system to his advantage!  How many tries does he get before he finds someone who will believe his side of the story?  I for one, am disgusted that this guy isn't facing criminal charges!  Why is he allowed to take test after test after test to try to prove his innocense?  I think our system bends over backwards to help the guilty, while the victims are put on display to suffer even more!  I say, lock this pervert up, don't give him the chance to hurt this little girl or any other child! We should be focussed more on helping the victims rather than giving the guilty more chances and more attention!
 
November 26, 2006, 10:33 am CST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: dspraggins1

I am discussed at jeremy, because he is that little girl protector or he should be.  When I first saw the preview, I KNEW that this jerk hurt this beautiful girl.  I know in my body that he should either have his male part removed or go to jail for life because his new wife is pregnant and he WILL do this to that child and anyone who says differently is more screwed up then Jeremy is.  Debbi Spraggins
Well consider me more screwed up than Jeremy because I firmly believe that there should be evidence before someone is labeled a child molester. FOR THE GOOD OF THE CHILD. It does the child NO GOOD if the wrong person is locked up.

Someone is hurting her, and we need to find out for SURE who is.
 
November 26, 2006, 10:40 am CST

Enough is enough--Jeremy !!

I  I am not impressed with Jeremy, I he was falsely accused,he would get that smart Alec look off his face--To me he is hiding something  !!!  His attitude beats all I've ever seen --If someone claims you did something YOU know you did not do..... A natural reaction would be to seriously STAND UP AND SHOUT  --- NO ! I DID NOT ABUSE --- NOT GET ON STAGE AND SMIRK AND ACT DUMB - GET OVER YOURSELF  JEREMY !!!! TELL THE TRUTH .     Think of your child -and get her the help she HAS to have--- Thanks to YOU !!  And get the help YOU need NOW-While Dr. Phil take this chance to come truly clean ,,and honest  !    P.S GET THAT DUMB SMIRK LOOK OFF YOUR FACE...    Just my thought's  Patti
 
November 26, 2006, 11:04 am CST

pervert

As a survivor of sexual and physical abuse I also that we have an extremely poor system I was molested by my brother and dad and cps did nothing to get me away from my dad. It's very sad on how persistent people need to be to have anything done about it. My heart goes out to kaylee. It hurts to not be able to do anything to help.
 
November 26, 2006, 11:08 am CST

Abuse

Quote From: worriedgrandma

You obviously are out of sink with the reality of child abuse today.  If you read the posts from other than you would know, the mother cannot prevent the pervert from having the child. 

 

The mother has done everything she should and more than most.  The failure is not the mother but the corrupt system.

 

It seems Jeremy was an abused child and now abuses children.  Well, isn't it possible that this is bigger than just Jeremy but a whole system, having been abused, he would be in the inner circle of abusers, pedophiles, pornographers etc.  I think it is possible they protect each other and maybe even financially benefit from each other.

 

CPS also has rules and laws to follow as does the judge and even the police.  Do you know that for a search warrant to be issued is difficult and when it is issued, it has to state exactly what is being searched for and where it is being search at,  If additional evidence is found during that warrant, the evidence cannot be used or the criminal walks.

 

However, Jeremy can lose his unsupervised visits by a CPS and judges ruling in civil court wherer it is a preponderance of evidence which is most likely than not.  No Jail time from that trial but it would limit his access to her.

 

Beyond a resonable doubt today is like saying one is never guilty because to some there is always a doubt.  But even if one is not found legally guilty in a criminal court, they are not found innocent just not legally guilty.  However, when one does wrong even if a court does not have the evidence to find the person as guilty as charged, the person is still moraly and physically guilty.

 

My concern is for Kaylee but it is also for the mother and family too as they must have thousands in legal fees as they have to pay to protect the child.  They have to live with the pain of everything.  They have been enduring this for over a year and they will have to endure it for the lifetiime.  In reality Krista has suffered Jeremy's abuse for many years.

 

I feel for the young child that Jeremy once was but those feelings by far take last place when I consider all his victims.

I was sexully abused at 5 years old until I was 13 years. Now I wished that I had some one to tell my story to. Am 52 today. At the time no one would believe me. Maybe Kaylee is in the some boat. If i had my dad would be in jail when I was 5 years old just all Jeremy should be and any one that hurts a child. My dad could tell you a lie like it was the truth so that you would believe him.

May God have the truth win out.

God bless!

 

 
November 26, 2006, 1:10 pm CST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: amichele9

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

The mother must protect her child and in doing so, must make the courts aware of the allegations of sexual molestation being made against him.  I would hope that the courts would then modify the custody agreement and visitation arrangements. 

 

 
November 26, 2006, 1:29 pm CST

Why dog Krista?

I've said it over and over again "HERE IN BERRIEN COUNTY, THEY (C.PS.) ARE THERE SIMPLY FOR THEIR PAYCHECK, RIGHT ALONG WITH THE FRIEND OF THE COURT, AND THE JUDGE. AS FOR THE ONE WHO MADE THE STATEMENT ABOUT KRISTA (THE MOTHER) SENDING KAYLEE ON A VISIT. I JUST PRAY THAT YOU WILL READ EVERYTHING ON THIS CASE, AND THAT WILL HELP YOU UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BETTER, ABOUT OUR SO CALLED BERRIEN COUNTY WORKERS. IF SHE REFUSES TO SEND KAYLEE WITH (HIM) SHE WILL GO TO JAIL FOR CONTEMPT (FOR VIOLATING THE COURT ORDER), AND SINCE HE FILED FOR FULL CUSTODY HE WILL PROBABLY WIN THE WHOLE THING AND THEN BE ABLE TO HURT THIS LITTLE GIRL EVERYDAY. THE MOTHER IS SCARED OF THE SYSTEM AND SCARED TO GO TO JAIL IN FEAR OF LOSING HER LITTLE GIRL TO (HIM), IF SHE GOES TO JAIL SHE LOSES HER BABY AND IT WOULD THEN BE MUCH MORE HARDER KNOWING THAT KAYLEE IS BEING HURT EVERYDAY OF HER LIFE. THE STATE AND (F.O.C) JUST PUT ME IN JAIL FOR THE SAME THING ONLY IT WAS PHYSICAL ABUSE. (WHICH ISN'T ANY BETTER) I WAS WILLING TO GO TO JAIL AS LONG AS I KNEW MY CHILD WAS PROTECTED, BUT IN KAYLEE'S SITUATION INLIKE MINE THE PARENTS ARE IN A CUSTODY BATTLE SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE MOTHER AND HER DOINGS, SHE IS TRYING SO VERY HARD TO PROTECT HER DAUGHTER TO THE FULLEST EXENT THAT THE SO CALLED LAW WILL LET HER!!!!  THERE IS NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO BE DOGGING THE MOTHER IN THIS CASE SHE IS DOING THE BEST THAT SHE CAN, AND FOR ALL OF YOU THAT SAY TO RUN LIKE HELL, IT IS A LOT EASIER SAID THAN DONE.   GOD BLESS YOU KAYLEE AND FAMILY. HOPEFULLY THIS IS ALL OVER SOON!!!!
 
November 26, 2006, 3:07 pm CST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: purplepenny

JEREMY didn't name the show.
No, he didn't but my comment remains the same.  I think it was wrong to call it that for it rewards bad behavior. 
 
November 26, 2006, 3:54 pm CST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Dr. Phil, I respect you  but do us all a favor and check into the CPS.  These people are yes overloaded, understaffed, underpaid and more.  They are human and do make mistakes.  I have dealth with this myself, personally.   What I do not understand is if you are accussed then have no contact until it is resolved.  If you love and care so much about the child then step up like a man and say okay this is not true, but until I can prove that it is wrong I will not do anything to hurt this child further.  My family right now is waiting, yes waiting for my 4 year old granson to be interviewed to find out if his 14 year old uncle did in fact molest him.  The mother which is also my grandson's grandmother  had the nerve to bring the uncle to our house.   Until this is resolved no way is my grandson going back to that house.  When my daughter and I told the grandparents what  the 4 year old said they waited 24 hours to call us back and then to tell us, Uncle M---- could not believe you said that about him.  That was it nothing else.   Angry yes I am very angry.  We the parents and grandparent of this child have to deal with nightmares, anger, bed wetting after 2 years of being dry, getting in trouble at school and more.  And what are they doing?  Right now we feel as though everyone has failed us.  Oh the father, not a word of how his son is and we know that he knows because my daughter told him.  All we can do is pray and take it one day at a time. 
 
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