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Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:20:16 pm
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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 25, 2006, 12:12 pm CST

why call it Jeremy returns

From Jeremy's behavior, he enjoys the limelight and I think putting his name in the title to the follow up of shocking allegations is feeding into his feeling of importance.  He already indicated that he was good for your ratings.  As many pedophiles, he thinks it's all about him.

 

As a grandmother of an abused child, I find it offensive.  Yes, people want to see him on the hotseat and see if indeed he did take another lie detector test but the important issue is child abuse and how protecting a child is so difficult. 

 

Yes, I will watch the show but do so knowing that it takes the courts to ultimately do the right things and protect the children.

 

I do thank Dr Phil for bringing this to the public's awareness.  Please Dr Phil, long after this case is resolved pleasecontinue helping the children.  Let the public know what laws are being made and overturned that protect the kids.  Thank you

 

 

 

 

 
November 25, 2006, 3:30 pm CST

Jeremy is Lying

A decent father would be first & foremost concerned about his little girl - what impact all the turmoil and allegations and upset between the parents are having on her.  But Jeremy's so occupied with making a good defense for himself, it's as though the child is somewhere way off in the background. 

 

Judy

 

 
November 25, 2006, 6:31 pm CST

What if it's a "Witch" Hunt?

It makes me sick that so many children are being molested and most of it by family members.  I always wonder about women 50 years ago, nobody talked.  I know someone who was having sex with her father from 11 to 15!  Now she is his caregiver,  YUCK! 

 

However, what about the wrongly accused?  What do they do after their name is splashed everywhere and no one, not even family, believes them.  Are we getting too paranoid, could all this result in a modern day Witch Hunt?   Dr. Phil, I want to see a show of someone who was proven innocent and how it ruined their life!  

 

I will say it again, "You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty",  NOT HERE IN AMERICA!!!

 
November 25, 2006, 6:33 pm CST

Disturbing to say the least

Note to Dr. Phil... I am a Grandmother who has been worried about my 5 year old granddaughter since she was about 5 months old. I have always thought her "father" and I use that term very loosely, has been sexually abusing her, as well as emotional and physical abuse. My granddaughter had demonstrated some disturbing actions and made statements that led me to believe she was being abused. My daughter is stuck in this very abusive relationship and she doesnt know what to do. Unfortunatley, I was in the same situation withe her father many years ago. My daughter was sexually mistreated by her stepfather and I didnt do anything. I have lived with that guilt for years now. I finally got my head on straight 7 years ago and now I see the error of the choices I made back then and how there are perpetuating through the generations. I am trying to stop that cycle with my granddaughter but I feel it is too late. The DHS has been out to my daughters house on more than a few occasions. I had to raise my granddaughter for 6 months because  the father and the other grandmother, as well as my daughter were accused of physical abuse of my granddaughter. During the time she was with me, she shared many stories with me that I just couldn't take. I called DHS and shared with them what she had told me and I was told that unless my granddaughter explicitly stated she saw naked bodies there was nothing they could do. She was 4 at the time.... she new enough to tell me what she saw and what she was made to do with her other grandmother of all people.

 

So... when I hear you say that you just don't believe that Child Protective Services would not follow up on a complaint I have to disagree. This was in Arkansas and they said they would make sure that my call was documented but they did not see any cause for an investigation. Maybe you should do a show on the breakdown of this system in America. My daughter and the father both got off from the charge of abuse and I had to return my beautiful granddaughter back to them. She went from a very angry, uncontrollable, raging little 4 year old to a sweet little girl who said her prayers at night, flowering little girl in the 6 months I had her. I have since watched her return to the angry, frustrated little 5 year old that she is now.

 

Please Dr. Phil.... don't turn a blind eye the reality of the Child Protective Systems in this country. I am sure there are many offices that do the job they are supposed to do.... but the one in my county...... has much to be desired.

 

Frustrated Grandmother feeling helpless in Arkansas.

 
November 25, 2006, 7:30 pm CST

Until the results of the investigation are in....

I have paid attention to what people are saying about this sexual molestation case, and had to throw in my two cents.  Based on the allegations of sexual molestation of his daughter, Jeremy should have no contact or at the very most supervised visitations at a child advocacy center.  Has this child been forensically interviewed by a trained interviewer?  It does not sound like she has.  Any allegation of sexual abuse of a child, with the reaction that I saw on the tapes deserves investigtion. 

 

I don't know which state this case is located in, but I have a hard time believing that CPS would leave the child in that situation.  If the mother has allowed the child to continue seeing her father and there has indeed been molestation going on, then she is just as guilty as he is in not protecting her child. 

 
November 25, 2006, 8:03 pm CST

the mother

Quote From: jamie63s

I have paid attention to what people are saying about this sexual molestation case, and had to throw in my two cents.  Based on the allegations of sexual molestation of his daughter, Jeremy should have no contact or at the very most supervised visitations at a child advocacy center.  Has this child been forensically interviewed by a trained interviewer?  It does not sound like she has.  Any allegation of sexual abuse of a child, with the reaction that I saw on the tapes deserves investigtion. 

 

I don't know which state this case is located in, but I have a hard time believing that CPS would leave the child in that situation.  If the mother has allowed the child to continue seeing her father and there has indeed been molestation going on, then she is just as guilty as he is in not protecting her child. 

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

 
November 25, 2006, 8:30 pm CST

Kaylee

I feel so bad for this entire family, but most of all Kaylee.  This poor little thing is in a place that she cannot get out of by herself.  My husband and I are being sued by our daughter and her husband for the most out landish things and we have two sweet little girls that are in the middle of all of this.  We fear for their safety and well being as we do our daughter's.  My heart just breaks for this little one.  I truly hope you make good decisions on HER  (Kaylee's) behalf.  The mother and father just seem to wrapped up in themselves. Will be watching to see what happens.  Our love, good thoughts and prayers  to Kaylee.
 
November 25, 2006, 8:54 pm CST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: amichele9

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

      As a mother who was recently in a similar situation I have to disagree with you MikiC. My ex husband was always verbally abusive to my children, and I had tried several different approaches to get something done (including taking online law courses). When he threw my then 14 yr. old daughter up against the wall I called his local law enforcement. They made him leave the house for the night but informed me that I could not pick my children up early without a court order. He lives in Alabama and I live in Tennessee and it was a holiday so that was an impossible thing to get. I called both my local CPS agency and his. I was told that neither one of them had jurisdiction. A year later, after their Thanksgiving holiday visit, I started noticing some very upsetting changes in  my then 15 yr. old daughter. She broke up with her boyfriend immediately upon her return and then pretty much just stayed in bed. She was clearly depressed but refused to talk about why. She was flunking out of her freshman yr. in high school. Still desperate to find the cause of her distress, I searched her bedroom. I found some disturbing pornographic writings which seemed to just be ramblings but occasionly made references to her father being a child molester. I then confronted her with the writings. What she told me put me in complete shock. Her father had tried to sexually molest her while she was at her last visit. I called both CPS agencies again and recieved the same response, niether thought they had jurisdiction over the situation. Did I give up and send my two daughters back into the lions den? HELL NO! I refused to send then, even telling thier father why I was doing so. I then made a trip to my daughters high school at my husbands urging and let them read what I had. They had taken similar writing from her at school. This meeting (with all her teachers, academic counselor, and the dean of girls at the school) was the turning point. The school contacted my local CPS agency who have been involved every since. There is now a no contact order and an order of protection for them against their father. The state is now in the process of taking his parental rights away because he has refused to do anything that they have asked him too. The moral of my story is "Protect your children first, deal with the legalities later!" By the way I would have gladly went to jail for violating a court order to ensure the safety of my children. 
 
November 25, 2006, 9:08 pm CST

Elizabeth Morgan Revisited

Quote From: amichele9

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

Dr. Morgan spent a great deal of time in jail for hiding her daughter from her pedophile husband.  Her husband vehemently denied the allegations, and the combination of his insistance and his social position swayed the judge into insisting on unsupervised visitations.  Dr. Morgan knew, in her heart, that her husband was molesting her daughter, and her daughter never backed down from the allegations she made.  Dr. Morgan ended up giving her daughter to her parents and sending them all into hiding for years.  She went to prison for protecting her child.  Once her daughter turned 18, she came out of hiding and stands by her claims that her father molested her.

 

Law is good only if it is just.  Where children are concerned, there is rarely any justice.

 

I'd be interested to find out just how things turn out with this family.  I hope the molester is found out and punished, and Kaylee gets the therapy she needs.

 

Valoren

 
November 26, 2006, 12:26 am CST

JEREMY RETURNS

  AS A MOTHER, AND A SURVIVOR OF SEXUALLY ABUSE, AND KAYLEE WAS THE SAME AGE AS I WAS WHEN IT STARTED. I WOULD NOT LET MY DAUGHTER GO IF I THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING ABUSED, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE ABUSE TAKEN PLACE, LISTEN TO THE CHILD, PUT HER IN TO GET HELP AND THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT. THERE ARE THINGS CHILDREN JUST CAN NOT TELL, FOR THEY DON'T KNOW THE SEXUALY TREMS THEY JUST KNOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPENED AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT, OR IT HURT.

  I AGREE ALL THIS HAS BEEN HANDLE WRONG ON BOTH PARENTS SIDE, BUT SOMEONE HAS DONE SOMETHING TO THIS LITTLE GIRL, AND ONE OF THEM KNOWS IT. THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW, AND SHE NEEDS A SAFE PLACE.  LISTEN, LOVE, KAYLEE AND LET HER HEAL NOW WHILE SHE IS YOUNG, AND DON'T KEEP ASKING HER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, LET HER TALK WHEN SHE IS READY, AND SHE WILL WHEN SHE FEELS IT IS OK, AND NO ONE IS GOING TO BE MAD, OR YELLING. SHE ALREADY WILL FEEL SHE IS THE CAUSE FOR ALL THIS.

  I JUST PRAY THE TRUTH COMES OUT AND MY ONLY CONCERN ALSO IS FOR KAYLEE. THIS HAS BEEN A HARD ONE TO WATCH, SINCE SHE IS THE AGE I CAN REMEMBER BACK TO.

 
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