Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

Something is missing from this whole story.  The dad is for sure "off" with an abusive childhood of his own, bipolar, and a liking for young girls.  Bonii is "off" in her own special ways with her controling ways and passing out fliers and picketing and websites.  CPS and the judge seem "off" from the stand-point that all the mom is asking for is supervised visitation. 

Surely they know that they MIGHT be wrong, and that Kaylee could be telling the truth...  even if they feel it's a slim possibility.  What is at risk?  On one hand a father might not have full visitation with his daughter for no reason than a lie.  On the other hand, a little girl might be saved from being abused.  That's not even a close call!  And Jeremy knows now that CPS and the judge are biased against the ladies...  if he is molesting Kaylee, he's now being emboldened to continue.  He has a free pass to molest because Bonii acts like a nut. 

By the way, CPS is not called to do a job in ideal, clear cut situations only.  They are suppose to work through the craziness and protect children.  (It IS called CHILD Protective Services, right, not Parent Protective Services?)  If a child is not protected from an abuser, and CPS misses it because of nutty people involved, that is not a pass of blame for CPS.  They still failed to do their job, despite having a difficult case.  And the unprotected child will definitely see it that way.

One thing is for sure though:  Kaylee will get older and more believable.  Eventually all will be revealed by Kaylee herself on who is doing wrong.  Either she will be incredibly pissed and damaged for having no time with her father and being made to accuse him of lies, OR she will be incredibly pissed and damaged by the fact that her dad abused her and CPS did NOTHING to stop it.  The truth will come out sooner or later.  The sad part is that either way she will be damaged, and that is an absolute shame.  This little girl has virtually no hope of doing any better than either of her parents, and will probably wind up pregnant at 15, 3 kids by 21, living at home with Bonii, repeating the same abuse and manipulation for her kids.  FOR SHAME!

My advice, for what it's worth:  The mom needs to get the hell away from Bonii AND FAST!!!  Cuz Bonii doesn't have sense enough to know she's clouding the issue and making the issue less and less about Kaylee and more and more about Bonii.  Get the focus back on Kaylee.  And every time Kaylee has a mark or sore spot or a complaint, it needs to be documented even if CPS rolls their eyes or yells and screams.  Too bad.  That's their job.  In the meantime, let's all pray that CPS is right, and Kaylee is just a pawn for feuding families.    (Like that isn't horrible in it's own right!)

I am not a parent, so I cannot say that I understand the pain this man is experiencing if he is being wrongly accused, and if that is the case, I am sincerely sorry.  HOWEVER, nothing is more important that this child's welfare.  Until his innocence can be proven "beyond a shadow of a doubt" - as is said in court, his visits must be supervised.  If he is not guilty, supervised visits may be inconvenient, irritating, aggravating, frustating, etc, but surely this little girl's welfare is more important than any of the aforementioned.

Annie

It's the old cycle of abuse, and no one's trying to stop it except Dr. Phil.  Kaylee is obviously being abused.  If she's not being molested by someone, then at the very least she's being abused by the fighting amongst the adults surrounding her.

Krista, Kaylee's mother, isn't the most stable of individuals, and she made that clear on the first show.  She was dating, and having sex with, a twenty-something Jeremy when she was only 14 years old.  That makes Jeremy a child molester right there, but her choice to engage in such a dangerous activity (unprotected sex) at such an early age says a lot about her.  Many young girls who've been sexually abused become sexually promiscuous in their early teens, so if I were Dr. Phil (thank goodness I'm not) I'd be asking Krista about her childhood and what went wrong that she had to seek attention from an older man in such an inappropriate way.  Perhaps her mother was just as self-involved then as she is now and neglected Krista emotionally but tried to control her in other ways.  (That's what my mother did to me, but rather than turn to sex, I turned to alcohol and pills and self-injury.  Mother tightly controlled almost every aspect of my life; some people called her over-protective.  But she never believed me when I told her about the men who were molesting me, and she chose to neglect me in terms of emotion.  I never saw her engage in loving behavior until my oldest son was born.  She never allowed me to see that side of her until then, and she still doesn't give that side of herself to me.  I can relate to Krista in that sense.)

And Bonii is a major piece of work, but she had to get that way somehow.  I really believe someone messed her up as a child, whether through abuse or neglect.  And so the cycle continues through each generation, working its way down to Kaylee.  The opportunity exists, here and now, to help Kaylee overcome this mess, and in overcoming it, keep it from continuing on to her own children.  The question is, will the parties involved wake up enough to stop the cycle, or will they remain self-involved and ignorant?

Much of what has been said here has gravitated toward  "he's guilty" and "he's innocent until proven guilty" arguments.  Much has been said about the mother and grandmother being ignorant or uneducated or self-involved.  I really think the emphasis needs to be put on the need for self-examination and healing for all parties involved.  That's really the only way to put a stop to the continual fighting and abuse.

Just my two cents' worth.

Valoren.

I believe that Jeremy is more of a Sociopath rather than a Pedophile. While my story is a whole show in itself, I will only say that I have extensive knowledge in this area and can tell you that by the look in his eyes, the body movement and shiftiness in his manner, he is no pedophile. It seems to me that he doesn't seek out younger kids for sexual pleasure. I think he did this to Kaylee because he has come to hate the mother to such a degree that he could do the one thing that could possibly throw her over the edge without ever once thinking that kaylee was being affected by it all. While sexual interactions may happens with younger girls in his life, it is not that he seeks them out, it's just that he doesn't care. Jeremy seems to just like playing with people's emotions and the drama involved. In my experience pedophiles would not play the games Jeremy is playing they would instead turn it around to make themselves appear to be the victim though vehemently denying ever doing such a thing (if they can) in a quick manner, not taking 5 - 10 minutes to answer a question that should so obviously be yes or no.  ( Yes, I believe he did this to kaylee even with passing the test the second time. He doesn't come across to me as a very bright man and probably didn't know that he could go online and cheat the test until the show so graciously told him. I think he was able to revert questions within the period of time since the show that he hadn't touched kaylee and kaylee stopped making the claims.)

This makes me sick to watch this show, i have followed every episode about this. Jeremy makes me sick, i think that he does like the limelight, and his responses and pauses before he responds questions him in my opinoin. When he tries to pawn off questions, and blame it on his biploar condition, or either if he says he might be a sleepwalker really to me means that he is trying to make up excuses. I feel sorry for this girl, it seems like she is stuck in the middle, and i think the total concentration should be on her and getting her the help that she needs.

I really hope that once Jeremy's wife has the baby that they would give her a lie detecter test also, since she wasnt able to take one before because of being pregnant. I think she might also add some light to this, when she doesnt seem to be taking up for this child as well. Im not sure if she really knows something, but i would be interested in seeing what her responses and how she would pass or fail this test.

I used to work for an agency that dealt with CPS, and i have to disagree about CPS always being in the best interest of the child. When i had to turn people in for my job for CPS to investigate, i have seen some cases go by their desk that sickened me, and they werent helpful in any way, and let this go on. I feel sorry for children all over the world that have to go through these sitatuions when it seems no one is caring for their needs.

I would like to see future updates about this show to see if they can finally find out the truth, and finally care about this child first and foremost. If Jeremy is guilty which it seems to me that he is, although this is the USA and we have to be innocent until proven guilty i would like to see him put behind bars and the keys locked away for the rest of his life. I just cant understand why he wont agree to supervised visitation until this dispute is resolved, and also why he cant agree to get help with a counselor with his daughter in the room, seems to me he is afraid of what will come out when they go into counseling.