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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 8:41 am PST

sounds familiar

The episodes about Jeremy mirror what I am watching happen to people in my life over the past 3 years.  The mother of my two boys is having this problem with her daughter's father in SE Ohio.  Her two-year old daughter came home after visitation and told her mother that daddy touches her "peepee" with his tongue as well as his hands.  She indicated this to my son and her grandmother also.  The mother had her checked at the hospital, where the doctor confirmed that their was some evidence of sexual abuse but not rape.  A nurse interviewed the child, then children's services interviewed her.  The girl repeated what she had said to her mom when asked by both interviewers.  It was all thrown out in court as hearsay.  The mom at that point did not let her father have her again until the court, 3 months later, told her she would go to jail if she did not return her to her father for scheduled visitations.  THIS SYSTEM IS NOT SET UP FOR the protection of children and needs to be changed.  The father had shown all kinds of indications to the mother when they were together, that he had a pretty wild sexual imagination, such as when he was caught masterbating in the room where the infant daughter was sleeping.  A girlfriend he had been with after breaking up with the child's mother had said that when he was changing the young girl's diaper, he would say to her as he ripped the diaper off, "pull those panties off like the girls in high school".  Recently, this man's stepfather found him, completely enebriated, masterbating in the room where his daughter stays during visitation.  The stepfather physically beat him up at that point.  In this case, we not only have a man who is a pedophile, but the whole family is keeping his secret and lying about it all in court repeatedly.  What is the answer here???  The mother has been to court repeatedly, been through multiple lawyers, and now the judge, children's services, and even the Sheriff's department blow her off ... the sheriff's department is now beligerent to HER.  What do you do???
 
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November 28, 2006, 8:44 am PST

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I was molested as a child, and can remember back as for as 4 yrs. old and this happened until I was 13 yrs.old. I also remember what the 2 sickos told me, that I would get into touble if I told. This child only speaks of it when questioned by her mother and grandmother. Where is Krista's boyfriend in all this, do Grandma a male friend? Krista reminds me of a grandmother I knew who deliberately did things to her granddaughter to have to take her to the doctor everytime she got her, to make her daughter look bad in order to get costody. I will pray for this child because while they are making a circus act out of all this, if this child has been molested by whom ever I know for a fact she will pay for the rest of her life. I still do

 

 

 
 
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November 28, 2006, 8:51 am PST

He needs to never see his kid again

I am a mother of a 4 year old. I love my kid so much. I dont know how anyone could do this to a kid. And if i was that kids mom he would never see his kid again. I would go to jail and not let him see her. And when i was in jail he would not have her i would make sure of that. And what are the courts doing. They should be looking out for the kid not for him. They should make sure everything is ok befor they let him take his kid by himself. And if i was at your show. I would not be able to sit beside him without harting him. He needs some help he needs to be put in jail. Everyone needs to think of this kid. She is the number one. Take care of her. Keep her safe dont let him see her. 
 
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November 28, 2006, 8:52 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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I have paid attention to what people are saying about this sexual molestation case, and had to throw in my two cents.  Based on the allegations of sexual molestation of his daughter, Jeremy should have no contact or at the very most supervised visitations at a child advocacy center.  Has this child been forensically interviewed by a trained interviewer?  It does not sound like she has.  Any allegation of sexual abuse of a child, with the reaction that I saw on the tapes deserves investigtion. 

 

I don't know which state this case is located in, but I have a hard time believing that CPS would leave the child in that situation.  If the mother has allowed the child to continue seeing her father and there has indeed been molestation going on, then she is just as guilty as he is in not protecting her child. 

As the mother of a child who was molested, I have to disagree about the mother being guilty. The COURTS are guilty, when they tell a mother that she has two choices, to either send the child to the home where she is being molested every other weekend, or to refuse to send her and be put in jail and have custody removed, which would place the child PERMANENTLY in the home where she is being molested. It hurts your heart and soul more than anyone who hasn't been there could ever imagine.......but sometimes you just have to choose the lesser of two evils and pray for the best.
 
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November 28, 2006, 8:55 am PST

Get Your Facts Straight

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 On todays show, when Jeremy said that he was taking Seroquel, my ears perked up and listened very close.  I myself take seroquel on a daily basis and it does not effect you like an antidepressent does when you stop taking it.  I have stopped Prozac cold turkey and I have stopped Seroquel too and the effects where in no way the same.  At the present time, I am on Effoxoor and Seroquel.  So he is a LYE when he says that it is effecting him mentally when he stopped a week pryor.  You can look at his eyes and tell he's lying through his teeth. When it comes to your child you know when something is wrong.  Also, drinking doesn't make you forget things you do when taking that medication.  I feel sorry for this little girl because now her father knows that she is aware of what's going on.  Now she will be terrified to go around him because  the court says it's ok for her to keep going.  Dr. Phil, you have to help her!

As I can see by your statement you are an avid pill taker and what you aren't realizing is that the way a pill may effect you may NOT effect someone else the same and you of all people should know this!!!!  My daughter suffers from Bi-Polar disorder and is also on Seroquel and she was also on Prozac and she CANNOT just stop either one of these drugs she has to be weened off of them!!!!! I have been informed by more then one doctor that Seroquel is NOT a drug you should just stop taking abruptly!!!!  Just because you react in one way DOES NOT mean someone else reacts the same!!!!!!  PLEASE for your sake DON'T make assumptions of a drug that you obviously don't understand even though you are taking it, the pharmacist gives you a information sheet for a reason try reading it!!!!!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 8:55 am PST

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Being molsted as a child raises a lot of concerns for me.  Don't make this more public then it has to be guilty or not it's her Father .  Get him HELP and at the same time SAVE your daughter. I understand about trying to get the courts to listen but its a little girl that no matter what her Dad is doing still LOVES him.  Save your Daughter and her Father. Be the HERO. She will Thank You later.
 
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November 28, 2006, 8:57 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Dr. Morgan spent a great deal of time in jail for hiding her daughter from her pedophile husband.  Her husband vehemently denied the allegations, and the combination of his insistance and his social position swayed the judge into insisting on unsupervised visitations.  Dr. Morgan knew, in her heart, that her husband was molesting her daughter, and her daughter never backed down from the allegations she made.  Dr. Morgan ended up giving her daughter to her parents and sending them all into hiding for years.  She went to prison for protecting her child.  Once her daughter turned 18, she came out of hiding and stands by her claims that her father molested her.

 

Law is good only if it is just.  Where children are concerned, there is rarely any justice.

 

I'd be interested to find out just how things turn out with this family.  I hope the molester is found out and punished, and Kaylee gets the therapy she needs.

 

Valoren

And that child was her only child, and her only consideration. Kaylee's mother has two other small children, as did I at the time my child was molested. I could not justify taking THEIR mother away from them, or having them go into hiding with us, taking them away from their families and friends, taking their childhoods away from them..........
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:00 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Perhaps Krista and her mother have gone overboard in their pursuit of protection from the court for Kaylee, however, when the evidence, at the very least, should give them pause in regard to what may be happening, I can see why they are acting in desperation when the court won't even order supervised visitation. If Krista and her mother layed back and were not so proactive in trying to protect Kaylee and it were found out later that this abuse did occur, they would likely be considered compliant with the abuse and thus be considered to be just as guilty as the one who perpetrated the abuse. Child Protective Services is, in many cases, a HUGE misnomer. What harm would there be in having supervised visitation? At worst, it would be an inconvenience, at best, it protects Kaylee from sexual abuse that will affect her for the rest of her life. I am SO tired of hearing that a mother who wants to protect her child is a "B", a trouble maker or using a child as a weapon!!!!!! What an effective way for the authorities to beg off of their responsibility to protect a child. How many children do hear about every night on the news who's plights have been ignored because of CPS's belief that the parent who reports something is trying to cause trouble? I think the collective pride of the court, CPS and law enforcement in their area is the stumbling block to protecting Kaylee. I think that they don't like Dr. Phil's involvement or the residual effect of the public scrutiny. They don't like being told what should be done and they exercise their power in a way that coddles their pride and not our children!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:01 am PST

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I have heard of cases where CPS (we call it CYS) has said that a child around Kaylee's age can not distinguish real life from fantasy life.  I have heard of other cases where  there was enough evidence to distinguish something was going on and they just blow it off and said that its unfounded. 

 

I personally feel that a child can not make up something like Kaylee is saying.  It has to be taught.  Rather Jeremy is guilty or not, i would think it had to either happen or she was taught to say it. 

 

If these lie detector tests were different due to the medication, why did Jeremy stop taking the meds if he knew he was going on the show? And I have never heard of someone having to stop taking a drug like seroquel cold turkey, from what i understand most of those medications you are weened off of due to withdraw symptoms.  Even medications like Zoloft or wellbutrin you get weened off of and they are minor meds compared to Seroquel which is an very addictive drug.

 

I really hope this situation gets figured out and Kaylee gets saved from whoever is doing whatever to her.  I am here to support Kaylee because she is the one who needs it most.
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:05 am PST

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I wanted to tell you Dr.phil that I think the way you are getting upset at the mother is NOT fair. She is just feeling lost and confused and feels no one in the law is helping her. At this point thats all she has to help get her daughter safe. By Protesting or making signs, I think that is how she feels she can finally get some help. CPS may try hard in some states, but I have delt with them before nad they DO NOT help.

I have no I dea why you are even aknowledgeing this piece of crap JEremy. For gosh sakes he has another child coming. HE IS NOT SAFE and something should happen soon.

They are allowing this poor girl to go back with this guy, it is only hurting her.
 
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