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Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 1:03 pm PST

CPS

Dr Phil,

You have no idea what it is like when you are trying to save a child.  You see ads to get involved and when you do either nothing happens or you are the bad guy.  We have dealt with many different agencies trying to help family members and got no satisfaction.  We also have dealt with the state police.  We had a video tape of a 4 year old saying his dad stepped on his throat and choked him and he couldn't breathe.  It was turned over to the police who said they would question him.  5 months later they had him in for a ploygraph which he failed.  It isn't admissable in court so they couldn't do anything because he denied the charges.  We also had the kids quite a bit when they were younger and had our niece to the doctor.  Her private area was red and just didn't look normal.  When we asked the doctor if he thought she might be molested.  He told us he couldn't answer that unless her parents (the ones we were concerned were molesting her) asked him to do that.

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:03 pm PST

Only hear what we wanna hear.

Did no one hear when Dr Phil said a trained professional doctor has looked at this child and this doctor said there is no proof of any penetration. Clearly this doesnt mean that the father isnt molesting the child in other ways, but when a child is saying shes being penetrated, yet theres no proof. You need to start looking at the mother and grandmother closer....

 

Isnt grandma feeling guilty for her daughter being molested? Or maybe a bit of guilt for being a shooty mother when she allowed her 14 year old to date a 21 year old?  This whole family has major issues, its a total shame they are all using that child to try to fix themselves.

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:04 pm PST

Seems as if CPS is a joke for a lot of people

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I was molested by a family member when I was little and 20 some years later I am still expected to sit accross from this man and break bread at holiday family gatherings. As if nothing ever happened. Children services did nothing to protect my sister and I. He was never arrested or anything even though there was evidence and he confessed. I do not have alot of faith in CPS as a result.

 I think it is clear Jeremy is guilty from his responses to Dr. Phil's questions in the first show. He doesn't care about his daughter if he did and he truly had nothing to hide he would do whatever it took to prove himself including supervised visitation.  I think Kayley needs to be kept far away from Jeremy unless it is supervised.  I can not imagine what Krista must feel when the courts force her to allow her child to be in danger, my heart goes out to her and her family.  Jeremy in my opinion seems like he gets pleasure in the accusations he does not seem genuinely discusted by some of the accusations which is a little disurbing. Also, why doesn't Jeremy's wife protect Kaylee when she is at their house she knows the accusations so why would she ever leave them alone together, when she knows the court is forcing Krista to send Kaylee there.  

 My husband and his brother were molested by their step-father. It started when my husband was about 8 years old (his brother would have been 7). After a few years, they finally when to Child Protective Services about it. They disregarded them...said that they were making it up because their mom and step-father had been arguing. A month later, my husband's brother committed suicide. My husband believed that the molestation would stop after his brother's death, but it didn't...he continued to molest my husband until he was 14-15 years old when moved in with his biolgical dad. After he moved out, my husband reported it to the police. But his step-father was a police officer, so again, nothing was done. My husband is now 24 years old and this sick man is still out there molesting other children. My husband recently destified against him in a case where he was allegedly molesting his new wife's two little girls (3 years old and 5 years old). This was a custody case...and the children were taken out of the home and custody was given to the girls' father. But there was never a criminal case against him. And he is still out there. I wish so badly I could post his name and picture all over this.

My whole point is that CPS is a big joke in a lot of cases. If they had taken my husband and his brother seriously and looked into it more, my brother-in-law might still be alive and he wouldn't be out there molesting more children (who knows how many there have been in the past 12 years).
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:05 pm PST

jermey returns

As I write this I am in tears that the parents can not put the child first.

CPS took my cousins sons 3 &4 out of the home and placed them in the home of the parental grandparents I do believe they thought it was best. The grandparents took them on to keep from separating and also askfor help with their care. Sept 9 they ran from the home for 4 days we searched and on the 4 day they was found in the river. Our community is still saying how it could happen. I have guilt because I choose to distance myself from this family and i am hear to say if you think something is wrong it is better to be wrong than right. Because the grandparents where not able to take care so it not just the parents you watch. the cps in the area set better guidelines so no more fall through the cracks. I hope this is not another child though a crack

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:06 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Seriously, it's just another part of Jeremy's sick game that he plays............................................................................................. WHERE do you get this????? Of course he is focussing on his defense.... DUH!!!!!..... he is being accused of a rather horrific crime.... and BY THE WAY... ANY DECENT FATHER being accused of molesting his child... WOULD FOCUS ON CLEARING THEIR NAME... and by the way.. it seems everything that is being done including the name of the show... and that it is a 4 part series.. is just part of "HIS SICK GAME"..... a bunch of you think ANYTHING Jeremy does is just "PART OF HIS SICK GAME..".... MY GOD people ...... what if he is innocent???? I have said it before... and I will say it again... EVEN if GOD came down and said that Jeremy was innocent... and was NOT molesting Kaylee... MOST of you would still swear up and down... that he is still GUILTY... that is just NOT RIGHT....
Well put! Until a doctor says she has been sexually abused, I will not assume he is guilty.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:06 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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To the Mom :

 

TAKE THAT CHILD AND GO.

 

HIDE.

NEVER LET HIM FIND YOU OR HER AGAIN.

 

YOU CAN DO IT.

You are telling her to kidnap her daughter? 
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:06 pm PST

What a joke

The poor dad how come noone asks the mom what kind of coaching she did. It was so obvious the child had been coached. I couldnt believe it when after the weekend visit the mom was trying to say that jeremy had molested kaylee again even though Dr Phil had been watching him. Come on this is so stupid. The mom and the daughter are alarmist and liars.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:07 pm PST

What the ....??

Unbelievable!    I can not believe this is dragging on and on.  Why can't someone talk to Kayli alone? Away from the dad, the mom, and especially the grandmother...Boni has ruined this for everybody!  Isn't there any way to talk to a three year old in a casual manner without asking direct questions?  I think Jeremy has done something but not with his daughter, maybe another teenager like when he started dating the mom at 14. Anyway, I can't believe no one, including the city, county, and state government have gotten to bottom of this.  Poor Kaylie, maybe she should be hypnotized, is that possible?  I am saddened about all of this, because it is all about "he said, she said, they said". 
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:07 pm PST

Mixed feeling

I still have mixed feeling about this while thing.  IMO, Jeremy is not being honest.  He has avoided things, and done things that make himself look guilty.  The Mother of the child I think is trying but is taking a very childish approach to the way she handles this.  Im dissapointed in CPS, im not saying they have to take her away from her dad right away, but they should have at least launched a investigation.  I have delt with the CPS with many abused children (I use to have to ovserve sexual abuse exams).  I have never seen the CPS in our aread not take somthing serious even if it turns out false in the end.  They are around to protect children not to blow things off.  They needs to at least look at this case more seriously.  It makes me sick to think that this child may be hurt but they wont do anything.  Im not saying the dad is guilty but he needs some kind of help.  If he has mental issues and has been on his meds or drinking while on them, he does not need to be alone with the chld untill he is in control of those problems also.  I just hope for this child, that they find out the truth and this can be left in her past.  No child should have to live with abuse and the sooner things are worked out the better.  She in very young, and as a mom of a child that age I know things at this age really affect a child and they have great memorys about what is happenening.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:07 pm PST

Jeremy Returns

I think it is quite sad of how these parents are acting. I understand they say their best interest is Kaylee.  However, Grandma needs to stay out of it. Being supportive of her daughter and concerned with the well-being of her grand-daughter is one thing, but helping destroy someone else's life is quite another (Kaylee's is in the midst of being ruined if these accusations are true).  But, Jeremy's demeanor is quite the question.  He may or may not be guilty (courts will have to decide that).  But he really doesn't help matters when he comes across as this arrogant, heartless fool.  Now, he may be nervous and so upset of the accusations that it has caused him to be this way, but he should really get control and then maybe the truth can be heard and found.  But the more the "evidence" cannot be found of physical abuse then maybe mom should step back for a little while. Just take notes, document everything as she has, move to another city and slap it all on the table at one time.  But, if Jeremy isn't the culprit, maybe mom should look at other options too. Are there friends at Jeremy's house when she's there (he may not know this is going on either), cousins, other children (kids can be cruel with experimenting too).  I just think Bonii and Krista should stop worrying about what others think of Jeremy and worry more about what this child is going through.  I also think it is making them look worse the more they attack someone they cannot prove to be guilty.  I'm not taking either side.  I can see both.  God be with you Kaylee in hopes these accusations are false and you're just confused. To you Bonii, Krista for hopes that you are accusing the right person and that you aren't taking Kaylee's father away from her (you will be the ones wrong and despised in Kaylee's eyes if so) and Jeremy, to you that you are being truthful and that you can live with yourself knowing the truth (+ or -)!!!!! Good luck.

 
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