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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 1:08 pm PST

no one cares about kalee

    from the beginning dr.phil said that he had kalee's best interests in mind,  and here we are weeks later, and there he is sitting there like a dummy  "well, jeremy i want to clarify that i never said that you did do this,  or you didn't do this to kalee"  Come on phil, are YOU for real,  all your experience with people, liars, cheaters, bipolars, etc. and you won't lay it on the line.  She should not go to her father at all when she trys so hard to be brave, and good and patient, and  for who? For her mom, for the courts for her Dad?,  why doesn't he try to be brave, and why haven't you phil used your influence to help Kalee,  i know you hired a counsellor for her but seriously it looks like she needs a good lawyer,  Do you know any?    This guy is so guilty i'll bet you can smell it on him, 
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

Oh yeah...

Why doesn't the mom address Jeremy as Daddy to her daughter? I noticed she asked if she had fun at "Jeremy's"  HUH????????????????

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

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Clearly this mother believes that her little girl is being molested. Remember, SHE didn't start the fire, JEREMY did. She is mearly acting upon the behavior and statements of Kaylee.

 

The courts have seen it all and they need to protect the children which they aren't doing in this case. CPS DOES get angry at parents that make allegations that can't be backed up with solid evidence but sometimes this isn't always easy with younge children. This mom now feels like SHE is the one that is being attacked and no one is on her side, the courts keep on giving Jeremy visitation, they should be giving supervised visitation until they can RULE OUT ABUSE!!!!! SHE IS DESPARATE. JUst because there is no physical evidence, does that mean that abuse isn't going on???? Maybe he just puts his penis on her vagina without penatration, hence, no evidence!!!!

 

I can't blame the mom for protesting outside the courts and handing out flyers etc because she feels like she has no other recourse!!!! OF COURSE SHE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE in her fight to protect her daughter. When no one is listening what would you do DR PHIL??? Sit back and let the abuse continue????? NOT ME< sorry

I wish I could protest with her because the judges and CPS really don't care and I can say that from experiece

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

am i reading too much into this?

Did anyone notice during one of the taped segments that the mother quoted the child as saying "Jeremy touched my peepee."   Wouldn't a  3 year old be more apt to say "Daddy touched my peepee".  I don't know of any 3 year olds who refer to their dads by their first name.  Maybe there is nothing to this, but coupled with all of the talk of coaching the kid and the grandmother's penchant for causing trouble for law enforcement, I am just not sure anymore.  Having said this, Jeremy does come off as a bit of  a creep to say the least.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

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whats going on with this situation? i am watching this show today with the return of jeremy and im sorry i dont think he's touching his little girl. my opinion really doesnt matter but i think that the mother of the child iss putting words in her mouth and her mother isnt helping the situation either. why in the world are they putting pictures of her childs' parts out on the street like that. im so sorry that this is happening to this little girl, who probably just had a mistake of words of something. me looking into this situation i would say the best thing is for the child to be taken out of the mothers house and placed into foster care until the matter at hand is dealt with. it would be ashame to have her in foster care but the best way to make sure either its true or not to come out. atleast the child wont have to hear her mother bad talk her father because im betting that the little girl can feel her mothers frustration about him and its putting a damper on her relationship with her father. if the court comes back with guilty or not they will decide whats best for the child and that should be the end of it. but the fact that theres no evidence either really putting the nail in gun of who to believe. and i believe the father until other facts are let out. but right now in my eyes the mother should not be alone with her child, which is hard for me to say because im a mother but no evidence and one minute the child doesnt want to see her father. then the next she loves him, lets see this for what it really is the mother scorned.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:09 pm PST

Dr. Phill please

Dr. Phill it is my deepest wish that you get in the middle of this and find the truth because at this moment the truth is certainly not being told. Not all of it.

 

Dr. Phill I truly feel that if you are not able to find out what is 'really' going on that this will grow old & cold and fade into the background and get worse.

 

CPS is not always what you have experienced Dr. Phill. To say that an entire agency is 'xxx' is not correct. The correct thing to say is that those you have had an interaction with has been that way. If I can't say all tall people are 'xxx' and be correct then you can not be correct in your statement saying that they all are concerned about the truth. I do understand that  you are just covering your butt legally though.

 

 I would much rather take a child away from a parent and nothing be going on and I am wrong than to leave a child with a parent who is molesting them and they have problems that is almost unrealistic to change once they are adults.

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:10 pm PST

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When I watched the first show, I thought Jeremy was guilty...now I am not so sure.

 

What has gotten me to rethink it is the behavior of the mother. When Kayla came back from visit with Jeremy, Kayla didnt complain but LATER THAT NIGHT, the mother said she saw Kayla's privates and they were red and she was alarmed....WHAT CRAP!

 

First, if she thought he was molesting her, why didnt she do the check the MINUTE KAYLA GOT BACK? Also, the mother said she didnt go to the ER because of the crap she had gotten from prior visits.

 

WHAT MOTHER DOESNT TAKE HER INJURED DAUGHTER TO THE ER in this situation?

 

That mother is one sorry piece of work.

she passed the lie detector test right?  what 3 year old makes these things up?  mom and grandmom did not coach her in any way,  so wheres the crap?
 

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November 28, 2006, 1:10 pm PST

Being a tax payer

I always get confused when people say that their tax dollars pay for law enforcement. You always here,"Well, I pay your salary".  You pay for your Mayor's too. Do you think that Officers are tax exempt?  We chose this career because we want to make a change in our communities, at least I did, and I would do it for FREE, that's what it means to me. Look at it this way, we pay everyday to be cops not only with our lives BUT "OUR" taxes too. That means possibly we pay something for you or a member of your family! Emergency assistance, examples: food stamps, medical cards, housing, elderly programs, need I go on? So, to the comment on today's show, maybe,the grandmother(?), if she can open her mind a little a think about it. Officers don't stand in stores to hold floors down or sit in parking lots  to wait for the sky to fall, we are their for YOU, YOUR CHILD, YOUR mother, YOUR father, YOUR sister, YOUR brother. Think about it. Maybe you, grandma should be more concerned with the health and SAFETY of your grandchild and other children, instead of harassment of law enforcement. Have  neighborhood meeting or church meetings on what to look for, educate people of your experiences. Share your knowledge. Pass it on. If you think you can do a better job at being an officer than put in an application, we'd love to have you!

 

Ret. Ofc. Bennett 

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:10 pm PST

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this makes me sick! we are told we need to trust in our system then we hear this!! in a situation like this one the courts need to treat this  like he has hurt her until it is proven he hasnt ... innocent til proven guilt well i understand that but what about innocence of a child! what about her rights! ...that is in the best interst of this preicous little girl!!! how can they risk this little girl and her innocence!...my own brother was force to have supervised visitation when he argued in front of his daughter with his wife....he can be kept from his daughter when he wasnt physically hurting her but ..courts will let ithis  slide??

also Dr.Phil in some case cps does push you aside ...they can be lazy and make thier own judgements....we called cps when my niece at 2 years old was sleeping in a closet with dirty clothes and playing by a waist high to her window with broken glass and cps said everything was OK!!!....

 

personally i see jeremy as a cold hearted liar ...hes not going to confess, that is where he gets his own sick pleasure hes not going to just give it up....people of sick mind do not think like you and me and people of well mind

"...innocent til proven guilt well i understand that but what about innocence of a child! what about her rights! ...that is in the best interst of this preicous little girl!!!"

If there is no evidence that he is hurting her then how is it in her best interest to remove her father from her?  If he IS innocent then it makes NO SENSE to rip her father from her and NOT find how what or who is causing her harm!
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:11 pm PST

what a load of crap

jeremy said he was taking seroquel and that he came off of it to fast. well i take it too. its to help you sleep and not for everyday use.
 
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