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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 1:55 pm PST

This whole thing makes me sick.

It is blatently obvious that this smug jerk is hiding something and you can base that just by the cocky look on his face and the whole way he conducts himself.

 

I feel that he should at LEAST be supervised during visits. I don't care if he did it or not, if it's even a QUESTION, he should be supervised.

 

The only thing that troubles me, in the episode today when the mother was talking about how Kaylee was reddened after coming back from a weekend with Jeremy, why didn't she take pictures for evidence? That would've been my first instinct. Take pictures and document the evidence you have against him.

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:56 pm PST

Absolutely Unbelievable!

     Hi Ya'all!  First off, I want you guys to know I'm a military wife, so I believe deeply in the ideas of justice, fairness, and the opportunity to be the best possible person you can be.  During our second tour in the NAVY I went and trained to do In-home daycare.  I had a federal daycare license as well as extensive training in locating abused children. 

 

     Having said that I am in a state of shock and disbelief.  This situation with Little Kaylee is unbelievable.  I truly believe in my heart that someone is lying here.  On one hand:  Where's the physical evidence.  No hymenal damage?  How can there be penetration with a penis if there is no damage internally?  No vaginal bruising?  No one has talked about vaginal bruising, why not?

AND YET:  the man failed a lie detector test?!  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! 

 

How can you believe a man that is a SELF-ADMITTED STATUTORY RAPIST?

     He, himself admitted that he "dated" a 14 year old girl when he was over 21.  It doesn't matter that they went on to create their precious child, Kaylee.  How do you date a 14 year old girl?!  Is the date an afternoon at the playground?  Answer me that!  On this one fact alone he should be kept as far from his daughter as possible!  At the very least until his story is proved or disproved however the case may be.

 

     Why can't the custodial parent sign a release on the privacy act form for Kaylee's case and find out what CPS is thinking about the situation and what the next steps for them are in regards to her daughter?

 

     I'll tell you honestly as a mother that I would rather die then send my kids back to the lion's den.  But I understand the catch 22 of the situation.  Children's testimonies are notoriously unreliable  due to coaching by a parent(s); lacking in understanding of what is actually going on; and more.  But if a child says, "someone touched my pee pee."  then by all means it should be investigated exhaustively.  I know that there is no easy solution to this problem.  Maybe they both need to be away from Kaylee or under supervision with her until this issue is resolved.  But the father should definitely be under supervision in her <kaylee> presence.

 

Thanks for listening, Ya'all.

Morgan 

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:56 pm PST

So What...

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EVERYONE IS BASHING ON JEREMY BUT YOU ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THE MOM SHE FELD HER POLYGRAGH ON THE QUESTION ARE U COUCHING UR DAUGHTER THINK ABOUT IT SHE JUST WANT TO DO THIS TO RUIN HIM I NO THIS FAMILY AND SHE IS MAD AT HIM SO THIS IS A WAY TO GET BACK AT HIM THE LENGTH PPL WILL GO TO GET BACK AT SOMEONE IS UNBEARABLE BEFORE U JUDGE THINK ABOUT ALL THE EVIDINCE EVEN AGAINST THE MOM AND GRANDMA.
So what that the mom failed ONE question on her polygraph?!  Jeremy's negative results far outweigh the mom's results.  More than likely he IS a child molester.  We know this because he was molesting the mother herself when she got with him at 14.  Honestly, I'd probably try to coach my kid to tell the truth a little bit as well if I knew it were the truth...it's hard for victims to come out - especially at 3 years old!
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:56 pm PST

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Did anyone notice during one of the taped segments that the mother quoted the child as saying "Jeremy touched my peepee."   Wouldn't a  3 year old be more apt to say "Daddy touched my peepee".  I don't know of any 3 year olds who refer to their dads by their first name.  Maybe there is nothing to this, but coupled with all of the talk of coaching the kid and the grandmother's penchant for causing trouble for law enforcement, I am just not sure anymore.  Having said this, Jeremy does come off as a bit of  a creep to say the least.
Good point, and not once on cam has this child said her daddy touches her pee'pee, but "they touch my pee'pee"
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:56 pm PST

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Kaylee said jeremy did it again after the most recent visit. I doubt Jeremy would molest his daughter while all this attention is focused on him. I noticed in the video Krista and Bonilis are talking openly in front of the children what should be a adult conversation.  Children pick up what they are hearing from the adults around them.

It almost sounds like kaylee is telling her mother what she thinks she wants to hear. 

I don't like any of them, I feel sorry for kaylee being stuck in the middle of such a battle.

 

I think the only danger kaylee is in,  is the psychotic behavior of the adults around her and I mean all of them. 

 I don't think he can help himself . Its a compulsions with molesters. Also I think he is just cocky enough to do so. You or I would be smart enough but this guy  thinks he is above everyone  as far as intelligent goes. He is truly delusional.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:57 pm PST

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she passed the lie detector test right?  what 3 year old makes these things up?  mom and grandmom did not coach her in any way,  so wheres the crap?
What Crap? i know a child who was abused from infancy to the 4th grade the pedo was caught sent to family counsler cleared and ok'd to return to the family and the child was then reabused again until they were 16. THAT IS CRAP....sometimes professionals aren't really. and sometimes the innocent wind up getting the bad end of the deal...
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:57 pm PST

CPS

I was not surprised that CPS was not doing much to help. I live in Louisiana and my oldest child sexually molested both of my younger boys when they were younger. I called my son's social worker and all steps were taken to report this. CPS was alerted and they never came out to the house to investigate. In fact each incedent was reported more than once and nothing was done. Granted my older son was hospitalized after these happened. He is Bi-polar. CPS said they would come and take my 2 little ones before they would take my oldest one. He really needed help and they did not want to touch him. He was one who slipped through the cracks as a little boy. Anyway, CPS said because a family member molested them they were not going to investigate, but if a stranger would have done it then they would look into it. I really hope all goes well with this little girl. I will keep her in our prayers.
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:58 pm PST

So Unfortunate

It is a very sad day when a child is "apparently" used as a pawn between the break up of parents.    Who is to truely know if this child has been molested or not?  There is no hard evidence to support the mothers claim except what seems to be coaching. The Grandmother, I truely believe, only wants her grandchild to be safe.  Although her methods are not what I would consider to be what is in the best interest of the child.  Plus, if I were to truely believe that my child were at risk of being molested by my child's father she would NEVER EVER go back and I don't care how many day's I would be spending in jail or what I would have to do to keep my child away from the offender.

The father is another story  he needs help.  He has no understanding of the complexity of the messed up situation that he is involved in.  He must be of a simple mind because anyone who would truely care about their child and anyone who would be accused of this horrible crime would want to clear their name and get to the bottom of this.

My question is...if its not the father who is doing this and this child is making these accusation's, who else might be doing this to her? or Better yet what disturbed person would want to be putting these disturbed images and thoughs in this small child's mind?
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:58 pm PST

He is a sick man

I watched every show about this and will watch it tonight..............he did do it there is no doubt in my mind.  Anyone that needs to think for 2 min about if he put his tounge in his daughters mouth to feed her cake has a serious problem. I hope they never let that little girl around him again.......Keep up the good work Dr.Phil

 
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November 28, 2006, 1:59 pm PST

Worried for Kaylee

 

I am to the point that I could care less about any of these adults. I have issues with the grandmother, having to do with why her 14 year old daughter was dating a grown man, I have issues with the mother for coaching Kaylee to say she was abused, and I have issues with the father, because he seems to enjoy causing all this painful doubt in his ex more than he is interested in proving his innnocence.

 

I want to think about what can be done for Kaylee. How she can be kept safe. I'm not sure what is going on with the child protective agency and the judge involved, other than being as frustrated by the adults involved as I am. But something must be done for Kaylee, no matter how irritating they may be.

 

What about a doctor who will examine her IMMEDIATELY before her visitations as well as IMMEDIATELY after, since the mother has already proven to be untrustworthy? Then it wouldn't be about the mother's word that her private area appears red after her visits to her father. It would be an independent, professional opinion. Someone who would be jointly chosen by both parents, could be called on to appear in court and be believed by the judge.

 

This would be good for 5 reasons: 1 - The father could be caught if he's guilty. 2 - The pressure would be off the mother and grandmother to try to find viable evidence. They are not professionals. 3 - If the father is guilty it may be preventive if he knows a doctor will be looking at her and speaking to her right after her visits to him. 4-  The mom may have more peace of mind if she knows she is doing something pro-active. Who can blame her for acting as crazy as she is when she honestly thinks her daughter is in such terrible jeopardy? Any one of us would be insane with anger and fear. 5 - The father is so shifty and guilty looking that he needs help if he's innocent. He needs somebody independent and professional who can say for a fact that Kaylee is OK after her visits to him.

 

Dr. Phil, you look so fed up with them all, please don't give up!

 
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