Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

There's a way to err on the side of caution and to protect Jeremy's rights as well.

The judge wants testimony, not hearsay.  OK.  Suspend visitation for a week.  Order CPS and the psychologist and any other person with relevant testimony to appear for court in one week.  Anyone not appearing should be held in contempt, arrested and allowed to enjoy the hospitality of the couhty pook overnight.  Let the judge hear the testimony and not depend on hearsay.

If testimony is insufficient, order a complete evaluation by competent people to be completed within a limited time frame and give Jeremy supervised visitation during that time.  If everything's OK, the worst thing that happens is that Jeremy misses one week of visits and has supervised visits for, say, a month.  He'll live If things are not OK, then Kaylee has seen her dad with a responsible person supervising for several weeks.  She'll live.

I tried to have an open mind when I watched the first show about Jeremy.  I then decided that Jeremy seemed to be guility.  My heart  went out to this child , her mother, & grandmother.  However, after today's show I'm not really sure how I feel.  It seems that Krista & Bonnie did things that did not seem to have Kaylee's best interest in mind.  If I thought for one second that my child was being molested or abused I don't care how long I would have to sit in jail, I would do whatever was necessary to  keep her safe (even hide her).  However, Krista did not want to go to jail for 15 days (to keep her child safe & make a bold statement to all involved), but was willing to hand out 700 flyers & picket in front of the court house, & put up a billboard.   It just doesn't make sense to me.  Also, Dr. Phil advised them to calm things down for Kaylee's sake & go about things properly.  To me it seems that they did not take his advice.  It also seems to me that Krista prompts Kaylee for answers that she wants to hear.  If Kaylee was upset or had something to tell her mom when she came home from these last visits I'm sure as vocal as she is, she would have told her mom without it be drug out of her.  I'm not saying that Jeremy hasn't at least made very bad parenting decisions, along with Krista, but I'm not so sure anymore that he is guilty.  It seems to me that maybe Kaylee would be better off with someone else (at least for now).  I originally thought that Bonnie might be a good choice, but after seeing some of her actions on today's show & what law enforcement had to say about her I have changed my mind about that too.  It seems that Kaylee is being forgotten.  I went thru a very nasty divorce & custody battle.  I was accused of things that were absolutely not true.  I wasn't happen with these accusations, but I knew that I had done nothing wrong & in the end the truth would prevail.  It makes me wonder if that might be what's going on here.  Also, Krista remarked that she has 2 other children at home.  Where are these children's fathers?  Maybe Krista & Bonnie want all of these children & no fathers around.  Where is Bonnie's husband.  It seems that other than Jeremy there is no other male figure around Kaylee. 

"What if it's the mother who is mentally abusing her daughter?"

To address this point... it would then make sense that he would cooperate & do anything necessary to clear his name to prove the mother is unfit. No?

First off, I was sexually molested myself for 2 years by the guy who ran the local convenience store. I also worked for 5 years as a CPS medic. We went into homes where kids had been molested and/or abused. We treated the immeadiate injuries and stayed with the children at the hospital until the social workers got there. So I'm not just spouting off the top of my head here. If there is no physical evidence of abuse, and no. a small tear in the labia isn't always indicative of abuse, then CPS has nothing to base a case on. A torn labia can come from something as simple as falling off a tricycle or a see-saw. I have personally treated little girls that it happened to. Looking at the video tape of the child with the father, she doesn't seem to be afraid of him unless the mother is around. The child gave different answers as to what she had done over the week-end visit. After her mother got her home, then she begans to talk about being harmed. Only after the mother has had a chance to coach her, does she tell a councilor she was touched over the week-end.

The best way to protect this child right now, would be to remove her from BOTH the parents, place her in foster care for at least 6 months with NO visitation from either parent. Then come back and try to talk to the child and try to determine what if anything has happened. At the very least, she is being emotionally abused by BOTH of them by putting her into a situation where she is torn between loyalty to her mother and loyalty to her father. She needs to be put into a situation where she can begin to heal, no matter what may eventually come of the court case, the child is now forever going to have to live with the fact that either her Dad hurt her or her mom made her lie about it. Either way, she needs to be taken away from BOTH of them so that she can find a place of peace.

I completely agree with the previous statements. Krista is so busy "screaming" about Jeremy and everything she thinks about him. She seems to be trying to bring up anything that will make him look bad. I think if she had an honest concern then why does she not have a 3 party (not the grandmother) check her daughter immediately after the visit.

In my experience anyone that accusses the courts and CPS of being biased is just upset since they are not telling them what they want to hear or taking the action they want them to. Evidence speaks louder than anything and the more evidence that is gathered by the mom rather than a professional just proves a witch hunt instead of justice.

I think anyone would react the same way Jeremy is if he is constantly under attack. Also if he is such a bad person why does she choose to hang out with him when she is dating someone else. Also to say she thinks he was attracted to her because she looked "12 or 14" when she met him is such a stretch to bring up when this is supposed to be looking out for her daughter. Seems that she just wants to keep a father away from his child to make herself feel better. Also where is her father in her life === could play a huge role in what she and her mom are doing.

I am so worried that Kaylee will suffer because of her mom's vendetta!!!

He slept with Krista when she was 14 years old, the last time I checked that was a crime and Krista and her mother could of had him locked up for statuatory rape. I am not sure what the statue of limitations are for rape in MI but perhaps they should look into that, maybe that would get this pervert off the streets.

The whole situation makes me sick.  I think that any time a child comes home and has signs of abuse you should take the child to the hospital.  It is shame that no one is taken the mother too seriously, and it is the child that suffers which is just not right.