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Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 3:05 pm PST

Jeremy Is Innocent

I still maintain my firm belief that the accused is innocent of all charges. He is noteably upset at these accusations.  It was documented by the OBGYN that examined Kaylee following her visit with Jeremy that there is no physical evidence of molestation of any kind.  If a child is abused, and is examined a few days following the incident, then there would be evidence of the molestation.  She would be torn. There was no tearing or scarring of any kind on Kaylee and no physical evidence to support the accusations against Jeremy.  I believe that Kaylee's mother is coaching Kaylee.  On the tapes shown by Dr. Phil, Kaylee said "They" or "He" touched "my pee pee". She did not say "Jeremy" or "Daddy" touched her. They or He could refer to the doctors that examined her.
 
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November 28, 2006, 3:06 pm PST

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Good point, and not once on cam has this child said her daddy touches her pee'pee, but "they touch my pee'pee"
if she said "they" - someone needs to look into who "they" are! I think he is a guilty MONSTER!
 
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November 28, 2006, 3:06 pm PST

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It is blatently obvious that this smug jerk is hiding something and you can base that just by the cocky look on his face and the whole way he conducts himself.

 

I feel that he should at LEAST be supervised during visits. I don't care if he did it or not, if it's even a QUESTION, he should be supervised.

 

The only thing that troubles me, in the episode today when the mother was talking about how Kaylee was reddened after coming back from a weekend with Jeremy, why didn't she take pictures for evidence? That would've been my first instinct. Take pictures and document the evidence you have against him.

I can definitely see your point on taking pictures for evidence but the way things seem to be going in this case...she probably would've been charged with child pornography then!!  I do believe that if there is ANY suspicion that a child COULD have been molested or abused then there should definitely be supervised visitation at least for a certain length of time!  It confuses me as to why they aren't taking that into consideration and just letting it happen??

 
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November 28, 2006, 3:06 pm PST

The truth

Obviously Jeremy has issues that hes not going to tell us about, or even try to aknowledge. As others have said, he thrives off of attention and being on tv. The fact of the matter is, Jeremy is a liar, and everyone knows that. The reason why everyone watches the show when he's on, is because we all know hes lying and we are waiting for Dr, Phil, who we love so much, to lash out at him and get the truth. Unfortunantly that is not going to happen because Dr. Phil doesnt stoop to that level. In my opinion, I do not believe that either of the parents should be with their daughter at this point. They are both unstable, Jeremy more so, and Kaylee is going to suffer mentally and emotionally. I know from experience how abused childeren act later in life. Jeremy, has all of the signs. What really troubles me is that we all see hes guitly, but the court systems seem to fail us all the time if we dont have a reputation or money. Good thing hes not Michael Jackson or else he would be in the same boat. If Jeremy ever goes to jail and he wasnt molested when he was younger and he did so with his daughter, he will finally know what it feels like to be molested, and thats no joke.
 
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November 28, 2006, 3:07 pm PST

Serious?

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Krista and her mother are coaching Kaylee to say the things she does. If Krista truly believed "100 %" that Jeremy was molesting her then she wouldn't want him to get visitation. She said on today's show that she didn't want to stop his visitations but only wanted them supervised. If that was my child and I was 100% sure she was being molested by her father I wouldn't want him anywhere near her. Why is it that NO ONE in her town, including those to serve and protect aren't helping her; what is it that they know about Krista and her mother that we don't? Something on her side is just NOT right. People are innocent until proven guilty. In order to prove someone guilty there has to be evidence, not just words; the court will not waste their time or taxpayers money to pursue something that the mother is trying to make a fact to make the father look bad and hurt him.
Are you kidding me. I dont understand why krista wants keep letting him see her, but the evidence some times there is no evidence and I cant believe the words that you just typed. Something is going on with this little girl and you seem to have no compassion what so ever. Sometimes when a child is molested there is no evidence you just have to take there word for it and do everything that you can krista and the grandmother passed the lie detector test he didnt. Did you turn a blind eye to that fact. Look at him he is using that poor little girl. If he wasnt doing it he would stand up and say he I am not doing it but i will find out who is and make sure the sob doent do it again. Not making up excuses for himself and getting defensive about the allegations. It sickens me to think that there are people out there who believe there has to be hard evidece to prove molestation.... YUK!!!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 3:07 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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I would sit in jail too to keep my kids safe, BUT Kaylee would have gone to Jeremy for the 15 days she was there. That wouldn't have been good. That whole court deal should not have happened that way. It was the courts fault that he wasn't made to have supervised visits.

I know Krista, and Boni have made a lot of mistakes, and they haven't done things correctly either.They made me mad today, but all you have to do is listen to Jeremy for 2 minutes and you can tell he is lying about something.

I'd hide her...I don't care. If I REALLY believed my daughter was being hurt I would sacrifice anything and everything to keep her away from who I thought was hurting her.
 

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November 28, 2006, 3:07 pm PST

Supervision required to keep Kaylee safe!

  The one point that was never made during this show was that Krista anbd Bonnie would not have escalated this and continued to rabble rouse if Jeremy had agreed to supervised visitations.  He agreed to it on the first show and then went back on that promise.  If I was this child's parent, I would never allow my child to go into Jeremy's home without supervision.  It is crazy to me that at least this requirement has not been mandated by the courts.  Here is a child that is actually verbally complaining about being molested.  I am a teacher and my experience has been that most children do not or can not verbally explain what has happened to them and often molestation or abuse is found through a change in behavior or in their play.  This child is actually telling people she was molested and still action isn't being taken!  Imagine if she was just playing sexually with her dolls, no one would be listening.  I agree that it isn't fair to punish Jeremy until the courts can make a final conclusion.  But the reality is that this is "he said, she said", so until they can get to the bottom of this, there needs to be supervision to keep Kaylee safe.  That is the least that can be expected.  Dr. Phil keeps saying that Krista needs to calm this down...but under the circumstances, I think she should be yelling even louder!  Whatever it takes to keep Kaylee safe.

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November 28, 2006, 3:07 pm PST

this child needs protection -

from BOTH parents. Am I the only one who heard this mother, on camera, speaking the child and referring to her father as 'Jeremy'? Not DAD? Am I the only one who has heard of alienation? And the grandmother just telling the child don't worry?  I love you so much, just remember that? TRY to have a good time at 'Jeremy's'. That child may or may not be the victim of molestation - but she is certainly the victim of alienation. And they may never get to the bottom of what happened if the alienation and confusion of this child doesn't stop. She will be so confused she won't know what happened, if anything.  I don't believe for one second that Jeremy - who seems like a REAL jerk - is molesting his daughter after having been on the dr phil show and in court. he is not going to cause her physical harm when all eyes are on him. its too convenient that this mother can't reproduce the childs victim claims when the cameras are rolling (dr phil cameras). she's happy, smiling. but when they leave she is crying and making adult statements? both parents need supervised visitation until they grow up. i'm wondering how the other children's fathers are fairing w/ this mother and grandmother.

 
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November 28, 2006, 3:07 pm PST

Court system needs to change

We need to stop electing liberal Judges who don't want to take sexual abuse seriously.  In the last few years judges all of sudden seem to think they have all the power to do whatever they want. This judge in Kaylees case should of temporarily made Jeremy have supervised visits. If the court system truly have the "childs" best interest it is better safe than sorry. Also, we should hold judges and CPS accountable for not protecting our children. The scum bags that are raping our children get away with it because they can.  They know that the court system doesn't want to offend anyone.  Child molesters are NOT rehabilitative.  Jeremy will do it again.  He will be more secretative more sneaky about it since he knows he can get away with it..  As a country we need to start standing up and not allowing things to happen. Child molesters need to be put away for life. 

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 3:08 pm PST

OMG~Are you serious

As a family member of 3 murder victems who were killed by a child molestor, I want to know how people can sit by & watch this unfold.  My young cousin was molested by her step father  who went on trial and was days from being found guilty, he then  snapped & killed her mother and her brother & sister, then turned the gun on himself.  My advice to this family is RUN!!!! If you cant get answers or stasifaction from your courts, take whatever precautions you need to and protect yourself & your child. These men seem as if they could be your best friend while all along they are satan in disguise.
 
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