Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:20:16 pm
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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 6:36 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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For some reason, I belive Jermey. I know you'll al l will jump all over me, let me explain. I think these two women, the grandmother and the mother are nuts. they've got alot to hide I feel. their sabatogizing their own case for Kali. the mother is a nutcase. I've seen nothing like this from Jermey. He is defending himself to the hilt. His ex's and mother in law are just a lynch mob. I also want to touch on the seoquel, BP case. I am Bipolar, I've raised two healthly children. I am also on Seroquel, and YES I have a glass of wine a day. So what, no big deal. YES, this will effect the outcome of a polygraphic test. The medication will definately affect the outcome of a polygraph test. If Jermey went off it cold turkey, he probably was a nervous wreck. That will change the outcome as well. I think this expert polygraphic person, better bone up on his physcological behavior and what it can do too polygraphic test. In the meantime, until I've heard concrete evedience that condems Jermey he has me on his side. Debbie
 WHY DID THE GRANDMOTHER AND MOTHER BOTH PASS THE TEST??? JEREMY Hasn't PAST ONE YET.  I think you should let Jeremy babysit your two healthy kids sense you feel so strongly that he is such a great guy.  Good luck with that.
 
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November 28, 2006, 6:36 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Todays show really makes me upset. Poor Kaylee has been through so much.  First I am going to say that I don't know what is really happening with Kaylee. Having said that I agree with the courts and CPA, He is not a threat to Kaylee. This is one big custody battle. Jeremy's wife is acting like a child. She is just making the whole situation worse. The wife should be ashamed of herself. I also think Jeremy's wife is coaching Kaylee. I feel really bad for Jeremy, he is trying to move on and the wife won't put a period and move on. I think Jeremy as a father has the right to have unsupervised visitation. A judge in a court of law already ruled this. This is an awful situation and everybody needs to move on. As the show progressed today, the more Jeremy looked innocent. On the other side of the coin, I do agree with Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil is not accusing Jeremy of doing this, but Dr. Phil has some concerns. I think everybody needs to sit down the professionals, including Jeremy. Jeremy said on the show, that he wants to be separate, he doesn't want to be in the same room with his daughter when being counseled. I don't blame him. That is all from me. I do want to tell Dr. Phil that he has a great show and I do think he really does want to help people. Its Genuine. Thats All.

You have an opinion based on inaccuracies. 

 

1.  This was not a custody issue until the child disclosed being molested

 

2.  Jeremy and Krista were never married to each other

 

3.  Both have gone on with their own lives

 

4  His wife wasn't even there supposedly she is pregnant and too far to travel and she didn't take a lie detectot test because hse was pregnant

 

5. The judge has not even listened to the evidence

 

6.  You do not know that the child is safe with him at all.

 

7.  Jeremy says lots of thing and is a liar, he contradicts himself on every show, he failed both lie detector tests and yet claimed ro have passed.

 

8.  Jeremy admits to be bi polar 

 

9.  He admits to be on psy drugs and alcohol and says they alters his thinkiing

 

10.  He has excuses for everything and even gave himself on out that maybe he does things by sleep waliking

 

11.  Jeremy even admited he didn't think anything inappropriate happened whiile the child was in the mother's custody

 

12.  Jeremy abandoned the child her first 2 years

 

There so much more but it's all in the transcripts and shows

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 6:36 pm PST

CPS IS WORTHLESS

Jeremy belongs in jail

 
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November 28, 2006, 6:37 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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For some reason, I belive Jermey. I know you'll al l will jump all over me, let me explain. I think these two women, the grandmother and the mother are nuts. they've got alot to hide I feel. their sabatogizing their own case for Kali. the mother is a nutcase. I've seen nothing like this from Jermey. He is defending himself to the hilt. His ex's and mother in law are just a lynch mob. I also want to touch on the seoquel, BP case. I am Bipolar, I've raised two healthly children. I am also on Seroquel, and YES I have a glass of wine a day. So what, no big deal. YES, this will effect the outcome of a polygraphic test. The medication will definately affect the outcome of a polygraph test. If Jermey went off it cold turkey, he probably was a nervous wreck. That will change the outcome as well. I think this expert polygraphic person, better bone up on his physcological behavior and what it can do too polygraphic test. In the meantime, until I've heard concrete evedience that condems Jermey he has me on his side. Debbie

I for one will not be jumping all over you for your beliefs.  However, I wonder why you think the mother and grandmother are nuts.  Firstly, any mother/grandmother would be nuts if they are told by their child/grandchild that someone was touching her pee pee.  Anyone who wouldn't take it seriously isn't a good parent.  Period.

Secondly, what does Krista and her mother have to gain by lying about Jeremy?  It's obvious why Jeremy would lie if he's molesting his daughter.  Of course he won't admit to it, he doesn't want to lose his "victim".  So tell me, why would Krista and her mother be lying?  What do they have to gain?  She said many times that all she wants is for her child to be supervised while in her father's care.  Krista is also the one that went out of her way to contact Jeremy and get him involved in Kaylee's life in the first place.

 

I'm not saying that Krista is innocent, but I don't see what she has to gain by asking for Kaylee to be supervised.

 
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November 28, 2006, 6:37 pm PST

Court system failed

Little girl allowed to be molested
 
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November 28, 2006, 6:38 pm PST

Judges

It concerns me that three other women have claimed injustice with the same CPS worker and judge.

 

Judges are appointed to the bench but can be voted off by the public. Through the picketing and media attention this case is receiving, that judge can and probably should be voted off by the people when his/her term expires.

 

I was a foster parent for 11 years and have worked with many caseworkers. I am surprised that those involved in this case continue to discredit what the mother and grandmother of Kaylie are claiming.

 

Most CPS calls are judgement calls and this one seems to be frought with poor judgement. Maybe the CPS worker and judge involved in this case have a personal issue involving pedophiles that impair their judgement.

 
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November 28, 2006, 6:38 pm PST

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You think the little girl needs to be in the show?  I think you are just wanting exciting television and not thinking of poor Kaylee.  She's been put through enough and the last thing she needs is to be exploited more!
Personally I think that we the audience shouldn't have even been able to see Kaylee on the show period!!!!Why do we need to see the poor innocent little girls face,  the show would have the same results if we didn't  know what that sweet little girl looks like.  I know that Dr.Phil in the past has put the blur over childrens faces.
 
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November 28, 2006, 6:39 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Little girl allowed to be molested
There is NO evidence she is being molested!!!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 6:39 pm PST

My situation is like yours

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 I cant believe the arrogance of Jeremy! I had a similar incident with my ex-husband and daughter and my ex-husband was told by CPS in Florida that I made up the lie to hurt him!

 My daughter would have NEVER made up such a thing about a man she loved and was 11 years old when she finally told me! Nothing was ever done and my daughter is now 24 and has NOTHING to do with her father.

I agree with picketing,writing letter and screaming it from a roof top if that what it takes for someone to protect that little girl!

This is my first time ever leaving a message on a message board but, I think Dr. Phil had it wrong to tell them to "calm down" they need to continue to scream out as loud as possible until someone listens.

 My daughter was 17 before she told me about the abuse (it started when she was 12) and by the time, I found out, after a nasty divorce and two years of horrific, non-stop knock-out dirty fighting with him , who was going to believe us, after that? Ditto, my kids will have nothing to do with my ex.(they are in their thirties). I share your feeling that it should be shouted from the roof- tops, but I'm not convinced in this case because of the actions of the mother&grandmother. There is a certain amount of sorrow and a lot of pain when you find out someone you loved could betray your whole family like that .There's something here that is just not convincing me that their story is true.Gut feeling? I dunno.
 
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November 28, 2006, 6:39 pm PST

Sadly True about CPS

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Note to Dr. Phil... I am a Grandmother who has been worried about my 5 year old granddaughter since she was about 5 months old. I have always thought her "father" and I use that term very loosely, has been sexually abusing her, as well as emotional and physical abuse. My granddaughter had demonstrated some disturbing actions and made statements that led me to believe she was being abused. My daughter is stuck in this very abusive relationship and she doesnt know what to do. Unfortunatley, I was in the same situation withe her father many years ago. My daughter was sexually mistreated by her stepfather and I didnt do anything. I have lived with that guilt for years now. I finally got my head on straight 7 years ago and now I see the error of the choices I made back then and how there are perpetuating through the generations. I am trying to stop that cycle with my granddaughter but I feel it is too late. The DHS has been out to my daughters house on more than a few occasions. I had to raise my granddaughter for 6 months because  the father and the other grandmother, as well as my daughter were accused of physical abuse of my granddaughter. During the time she was with me, she shared many stories with me that I just couldn't take. I called DHS and shared with them what she had told me and I was told that unless my granddaughter explicitly stated she saw naked bodies there was nothing they could do. She was 4 at the time.... she new enough to tell me what she saw and what she was made to do with her other grandmother of all people.

 

So... when I hear you say that you just don't believe that Child Protective Services would not follow up on a complaint I have to disagree. This was in Arkansas and they said they would make sure that my call was documented but they did not see any cause for an investigation. Maybe you should do a show on the breakdown of this system in America. My daughter and the father both got off from the charge of abuse and I had to return my beautiful granddaughter back to them. She went from a very angry, uncontrollable, raging little 4 year old to a sweet little girl who said her prayers at night, flowering little girl in the 6 months I had her. I have since watched her return to the angry, frustrated little 5 year old that she is now.

 

Please Dr. Phil.... don't turn a blind eye the reality of the Child Protective Systems in this country. I am sure there are many offices that do the job they are supposed to do.... but the one in my county...... has much to be desired.

 

Frustrated Grandmother feeling helpless in Arkansas.

My sister works as a Social Worker for Childrens' Services and she would agree with you.  She is soooo disgusted with the system.  She can't wait to get out but needs to continue for just a few more years to get her retirement benefits.  That will be a sad day for Childrens' Services and all of the abused kids in CA.  She works so hard for those kids.  But you should hear the stories I have heard about some (most) of the other workers.  I have to say that they are given more cases than can really be handled effectively but most of the workers do not care.  They come in late, go home during the day, go out for long drinking lunches.  The good ones like my sister just get so burned out that they are stressed to the max.  And it seems to be impossible to get fired.

 

I personally believe that Jeremy is abusing that little girl.  He lies constantly, goes back on his word, etc.  If he really cared about his daughter and had nothing to hide, he would agree to supervised visits for now and would not fight the tests that are being given to determine the truth.  What does he have to worry about?  He will be found out?  If he is not going any harm, he will put his little girl first and agree to what Dr. Phil suggests.  The child should come first, everything else is just BS. 

 

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