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Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 28, 2006, 9:04 pm PST

Cps and the MIchigan way

I'm originally from missouri, and in missouri the courts are fair to both parents.  I moved to michigan in 2004.  I met a man and started dating him soon after. He had a 2 year old son.  The mother of his son refused his visits, didn't allow him to speak to his son on the phone, and allowed her to use the child against the father.  We petitioned the court for visitation, but they refused our petitions.  Also when they had granted the mother child support, they refused to take his w-2 forms for the prior years, and went with a "witness" who was on the phone, and what  she said was his income. He was paying close to 400 every two weeks for one child.  I had never heard of that!  He made maybe 8,000 a year.  Then the mother took off and married a man she knew for 2 weeks, and asked the court to move the child to texas and remove the visitation permanently saying he never saw his son.  We had taped conversations, that she knew was being taped telling him he could not see his son and wouldn't allow the visitation no matter what.  She also had a cps worker come over on one of the few occasions she actually allowed my boyfriend his proper visitation(she had to go out of town for the weekend and didn't want to take the child) and coaxed the child into throwing a fit.  When we did get the child it was 12am or later when the mother wanted to "party".  While the child was in our care he had a great time. On occasion the child would come over and repeat some of the things he was being told...Like daddy is a loser, daddy has no money because mommy has it all.  We had it on tape, the courts would not allow it.  Her petition was passed and she moved the child to texas. The father gets 2 weeks out of the year in which he is allowed to see his son, but he has to go to texas in which to do it.  His father and I are no longer together, and the mother tells me now that she didn't want her son to see his father because they didn't get married like they were suppose to and that he broke up with her.  The court was not in his favor, and friend of the court turned him down when he asked for help. The court system and police in michigan are corupt an just don't care.  The police wouldn't even help the father pick up the child when he was refused visitation. That is a violation of the law that they are suppose to uphold. They don't.  Someone needs to bring attention to that state and I'm glad that this show is taking a story from michigan that shows how corrupt the system is. 
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:05 pm PST

HE MAKES ME SICK

I have a 2 year old daughter and I could not even think what that little girl is going threw. Jermey is a very sick and twisted man. He sit on the stage and trys to defend himself with attitude and arrogance!!! He needs to be put in jail just on the base of sacatory rape of Kaylees Mother!  This story touched my heart. He need to go to jail. Save that little girls life and send him to JAIL!!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:05 pm PST

Run

Take Kailee and run to another country.
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:06 pm PST

WHAT ABOUT KAYLEY?

 
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November 28, 2006, 9:07 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Dr. Phil, what is going on?  I can't believe what I am seeing and hearing.  There isn't an ounce of doubt in my mind that Kaylee's father is a completely deceptive child molester.  There may not be any physical evidence but the circumstancial evidence is overwhelming, including the damning polygraph results.  After listening to Jeremy's responses I wouldn't even need to hear the results of a lie detector test.  It is so blatantly obvious in his demeanor and in the way he tries to turn accusations into questions, that he is attempting to deflect quilt. 

 

Dr. Phil, are you afraid to say that you think Jeremy is quilty of the accusations being leveled at him?  Additionally, why are you telling the mom and grandmother to calm things down and behave in a mature manner.  Every single time that child endures the degredation of sexual assault brings her one step closer to being a future candidate for your Dr. Phil house.  If I was in the position of Kaylees mother I would be screaming from the hilltops to find someone to help me to prevent my child from ever having to endure another second of this horrifying abuse. 

 

Dr. Phil, this child really ,really needs someone with credibility to stand up for her and protect her since her mother seems to have lost that credibility with the Child Protective Service (CPS), a service that has failed this child.  Even in the presence of doubt on their part, they should be erring on the side of the child's safety.  How many times have we heard stories about CPS screwing things up, only for a child to die at the hands of an abuser.  Those workers, although trained, are still human beings with their own bagage and they are quite capable of making mistakes or illadvised decisions. 

 

Please, please, please open your eyes and help this child IMMEDIATLY.  Tomorrow is too late!

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 9:08 pm PST

Jeremy returns

This story is very disturbing.  A little girl may need help and and her mother and grandmother are running into road blocks. I don't know if Kaylee's father is quilty or not. It seems as though he is because he is so evasive answering questions and talking in riddles.

 

I would like to know who the "they" is when the first airing of this stroy was done. Kaylee said 'they' were touching her and she asked her mother to make "them" stop. Is there a possiability that someone else may be involved in this?

 

I do believe that the mother and grandmother may be taking some steps in the wrong direction, but maybe they are just trying to get someone to listen and help them

 

The court system and child protective services are not alway reliable in the best interest of a child or eldely person. It happens all the time. We read where a child was taken from his/her home and later in time returned and then the child died from abuse after it was placed back in his/her home.

 

Please Dr. Phil, don't give up on little Kaylee.

 

 
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November 28, 2006, 9:08 pm PST

You would.

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 After watching this episode, it was clear to me that Kaylee should be removed from both homes!  She should be placed somewhere where she is safe from all three of them.  It is my belief that NONE of them have the little girl's best interest in heart, as well as  I believe that  the grandma has a hidden motive. Like the police said, you don't want to cross her because she will haunt you for the rest of your life.... I think this is what she is doing to Jeremy and has just employed her daughter to help. 
You might as well go to jail right along with him. To send a child away from her Mother that is caring and loving her just on the bases of the Grandmother is wrong. What if one of your Grandparents raped someone should you be put into the system? Think about that one!
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:08 pm PST

CPS sucks everywhere

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The evidence they had should have been enough for the judge. It's sad that we have to have so much proof now a day's. proof that is hard to get or sometimes we don't think about until it is to late.
I know for a fact that CPS dropped the ball in Ohio.  This little girl have been molested now going on four years by her father.  The call logs, interviews, and other misc. written information was all lost....hmm go figure.  The court has not helped her either.  Daddy has lots of money and in this small town money talks!!!
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:08 pm PST

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 What I want to know is:
  • Why is he so shifty-eyed?
  • Why does he have to pause and "rethink" every time he attempts to answer a question?
  • Why does he spend so much time, effort and energy "spinning" every question posed to him?
  • Why does he spend so much time, effort and energy "spinning" anything and everything the mother or grandmother say?
  • Why does he answer every question with a question, such as "why would i do (such and such)?  That would just be stupid."  As if, he's considering what is "believable" and/or "passable" and operating under that premise? 
  • Why does he always appear to be stalling for time with responses such as, "Oh," or "Okay," or "Wow," or "I did what," etc.?  Why won't he "justify" a recognized expert's question(s)?
Does anyone else get a really bad feeling, just from watching his physical mannerisms?
I agree with you and have a bad feeling about him.
 
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November 28, 2006, 9:09 pm PST

Neither Parent nor the gradnmother are fit!

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I watched the show when I got home from work today. It made me cry. I know that the system can fail. It can be shaded by workers opinion and pressure from persons of power.  I do not think this child should be punished for the parents. I think the the system should protect this child by having supervised visits until this is looked by the court.

 

I gained custody of three of my sisters daughters four daughters after they were removed from her for neglect. She failed to protect them from her husband (stepfather) that was abusing them. It was proved that she had knowledge of the abuse and did on protect them.

 

There had been multiple hotlines one being seven months prior to their removal. One of the girls told the authorities at that time about the physical and sexual abuse. She was 8 years old. The system did nothing. There was nothing done until two of the girls had swellings from injection that were placed in their hands

 

The perp was the son of the Sheriff. He was found mentally incompetent to stand trial. Not! My sister was not charged even after a Grand Jury said she should be.

 

The oldest girls paternal grandmother was granted custody of her. I was given custody of the younger three because their father was a convicted child sex offender. He abused their older sister several years before. I live in a different state than where the girls reside.

 

The judge that heard the custody case made a later ruling that the three girls were to visit their father for two weeks with his girl friend as the supervisor. The father lived in a completely different state.

 

I did not send the girls. I had to hire an attorney to join the other five attorneys already in the courtroom. The judge would not transfer the case to where the children resided even though no one involved remained in the state. My attorney was able to have the case dropped in the original state and be handled by the states that the girls resided in. The good old boys were getting what they wanted in the original state and not considering what was in the best interest of the children.

 

I had to continue to protect the girls in my state. The father had no power here and his visitation was given to my discretion (me watching him). I had to continue to deal with my sister. I spent many more years in court. I attest that to their failure to charge her. She knew about the abuse that was going on both times and did not act.

 

It has been 12 years now.

 

 

None of these people act like fit parents to me. OK, was it molestation when grandma allowed her 14 yr. old to sleep with a 21 yr. old man? What sort of fit parent allows this? I don;t knwo if Jeremy is a molestor, but he certainly is not the smartest guy in town, and he has the maturity of a 12 yr. old. child. he definitely has issues with people of authority. But the mother of the chidl is a joke! Talking about all this in front of her child all the time? She has allowed this fight to take over her entire life. I feel like grabbing the little girl and taking her to Disney for a month so she can be a little girl again, and away from this mess! She sent her daughter back to him just to avoid 15 days in jail? Tell me she really believes he done it? Think I wouldn't do jail time to keep the child safe? Absolutely! I've faced the same threat, and it was not until I accepted the threat and the punishment that the judge took my case seriously to protect my daughter from physical abuse.  Maybe Jeremy is guilty. I don't know, but I do know that MOM has had a negative affect on the investigation by coaching the child. I will not base my oppinion on a lie detectors test from some guy who can't tell you what color his shoes are with out thinking about it and asking why first. They all have mental issues in my oppinion.
 
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