Topic : 11/28 Jeremy Returns

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:20:16 pm
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Dr. Phil follows up with Krista and Bonii's quest for the truth, to find out if 3-year-old Kaylee is being molested by her father, Jeremy. Jeremy maintains his innocence even after a polygraph test showed him to be lying. He took another lie detector test at his hometown police department, and brought the results for Dr. Phil to review. What does an independent polygrapher say about this second test? Then, Jeremy asked to undergo hypnosis as another means of getting closer to the truth. Were there any new revelations? And, Jeremy had agreed to supervised visits with Kaylee, but when he got home, he changed his mind, so Krista denied him visitation. They end up facing off in front of a judge. Did Krista serve jail time or let Jeremy see Kaylee? Is Jeremy being falsely accused, or is this little girl still in harm's way? Talk about the show here.

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November 29, 2006, 12:58 pm PST

Jeremy is so sick

Jeremy has a incurable disease.What is even worse he doesn't realize he is sick.The other thing wrong with him is he is stupid.If he was a bit in touch with the real world he would  not keep on and on making a fool of myself.The his email name shows he is a total real A hole.He gave himself that name, is that not stupid.I think God will keep Jeremy from that little girl but I don't know what will happen to the new baby.I don't think it will matter what sex it is, he will see it as a sex toy.He needs to be locked away.He will never try to do better or get help.I wished someone could find out why the DHS cannot see what is happening.What will it take for them to raise a flag on this child.Dr Phil has showed him as a dishonest person.Jeremy showed us he is dumb and his wife is dumber.I will pray for all including myself for the feelings I have for this low life bully.

 

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November 29, 2006, 1:00 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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What can you do to help?

By myself, very little.  My campaign involves people who are concerned enough to offer ideas and suggestions on how to help.  My web site provides several links to organizations that specialize in this issue.

 

Dr Phil has a wealth of information and resources as well.  We are a small group with big visions. 

 

A summary of our campaign mission:

  • Raise awareness starting in our communities.  Some are giving speeches at schools, etc.  Also to get our churches, local law enforcement agencies, and any community efforts to promote the campaign of awareness.
  • We are trying to evaluate and determine our concerns about things such as the incompetentcies of some CPS agencies and other government agencies which may need a "watch dog" program, and/or reform.
  • We are putting our heads together to try to approach every angle we can think of in order to raise awareness, and to make the world safer for our children.  We plan to put together letters or emails to send to our congressmen, our local authorities, our media, our other elected officials.
  • To try to get as many child abuse organizations on the same page, and to share information and work together for the same cause.

We are a campaign, a people, a voice.  And my goal is to join forces with DR Phil & CO, although this has happened in a way, and give people the motivation to participate and realize this is not just isolated issues, Child Abuse is everybody's business.

 

My web site can give you more thorough information of the campaign and what we are doing.  If we can get enough people on the same page, and work together towards a common goal, we will make a difference.

 

God bless,

 

djmatt

 

 
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November 29, 2006, 1:01 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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I am in agreeance with you totally!!

2-3 days is ample opportunity to get the witnesses in to court. If they were unable to contact them they could have continued the case based on witnesses not being present.

 

I watch my 3 year old nephew and Yes he doesnt lie, but he does know how to repeat and retain information that is pumped into his head (ABC, 123) Kaylee too I am sure (ABC, 123....Jeremy touched my peepee).

 

Exactly what the heck was Bonii thinking letting her sleep with this man in the first place. I think that it is pay back time in her mind.

It was also mentioned that she is well known in the police department....we all  have these neighbors who call the cops for EVERY reason or who are bored and have nothing better to do...god forbid if this is true but she has cried wolf and now she is paying for it.

 

I would like to see jeremy and krista on the show ONLY. What and how would Krista react to being there alone and without her mother butting in all the time. (controlling)

 

Another thing I would like to see is CPS taking this child into custody for emotional abuse. Then she will be away from all those influences and get tested psychologically so that they can get to the truth. This child is educated by her surroundings and it seems to me that they eat, breathe, and sleep, ans speak freely about this situation around her daughter so, as a 3 year old how should she react?

Thanks...I'm glad someone agrees instead of asking if I watched the show!! LOL
 
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November 29, 2006, 1:02 pm PST

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I can't agree... Yes a 2 CM laceration on a 3 year old is no small thing BUT, look around the net and find out the causes. My neighbors child most recently fell off the couch and lacerated her labia because she landed on something wrong. She bled, and cried and was pumped for information when she was in the ER. I had to write an affidavit that I saw this happen.

I believe that all the different (more common) ways that labias can be affected that this is why is cannot be considered hard evidence.

No one said having bi polar was an excuse, it is a defense. He is trying to convince a world that is against him and I beg to differ on your reasonings. I too have a bi polar child and guess what, mood changes do affect your intelligence. When a person is angry, their intelligence gets clouded.  Also, my son has severe memory loss!

Just as everyone else, no one case is the same. Alot of people are taking their personal situations and turning it into a vendetta. I understand that they can relate to the pain but no one person is in this particular situation. No one lives in that house where this baby lives! We cannot honestly say that this is happening.

And every single bipolar child is different also and you should know this. My child also has OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) which also affects his intelligence. He can take two tests, same answers, two different days and one day he will master it while the next day he cant remember how to solve the problem.

All I am saying is that every one should look at this case based on the facts and not emotions, even though that is very hard to do.

Jeremy never said that he was perfect. He only said that he did not molest their daughter. He need medication management first off and AA. Neither one deserve to have this child.

Now what you have said..... is VERY LOGICAL......
 
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November 29, 2006, 1:04 pm PST

WHY is it NOT POSSIBLE....

WHY can't people think that this MIGHT be a BIG MISTAKE.... and MISUNDERSTANDING.......we do NOT KNOW IF Krista is inadvertently putting these words in Kaylees head..... NOW... read what I WROTE..........This may very well.... be a HUGE misunderstanding.... and Kaylee may have not been sexually abused.... I am NOT SAYING KAYLEE IS LYING!!!!! I personally think this is all a misunderstanding born from a young inexperienced mom asking a very young child the wrong questions... and not understanding how to get the right answers... it should have been handled by a child psychologist to begin with... Kaylee NEVER said her dad was sexually abusing her.... that is just the conclusion that was made... after she had an injury.... and she was questioned by her mother..... she could have said that he touched her pee-pee, but meant that he did it when changing her diaper..... BTW... When Jeremy took her to the hospital, after complaining that her privates hurt....she NEVER told the ER Dr at the emergency room that her daddy touched her.... and that is probably why he was cleared........... NOW AS IT STANDS..... there are way too many rumors being started... and words being twisted.... and people seeking attention..... and misinformation being thrown around to manipulate and make Jeremy look even worse than they have already made him look... and that is NOT FAIR................................. BTW.... I was molested as well... and did not tell until I was 16... and that is because when I was 4-7 and that young... I did not understand what was going on...... I was too young to understand what was going on.... and Kaylee is TOO young to be able to explain the difference between a safe touch and a bad touch....................................... WHY do some of YOU FIND THAT SO HARD TO BELIEVE.?????? ... To me this sounds quite reasonable...... I am NOT saying that ANYONE IS LYING...... BUT I HAVE LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT....... THE DR'S have SAID.... "THERE IS NO PHYSICAL SIGNS OF ABUSE"... YET, Kaylee has been reported as saying that she was penetrated.. and there was bleeding... how can that BE... IF THERE ARE NO PHYSICAL SIGNS OF ABUSE?????.... and this was an exam 2 days after Kaylee said he put his pee-pee in her pee-pee... and it was bleeding.... It this was true.. the evidence would have STLL been there.. ALSO... and giving the benefit of the doubt here...... the mother could have accidently put these words in Kaylee's head...... and btw.... Children this age scream and cry at the drop of a hat.... especially when they are always in unstable households.... this does NOT mean that Jeremy is a pedophile, who is sexually abusing his daughter....
 
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November 29, 2006, 1:10 pm PST

Kaylee

It seems the only one truly concerned about Kaylee (other than Dr Phil) is the grandmother. When Jerkemy...oops, I mean Jeremy.....failed the lie detector gramma cried, but mom gloated. She was so busy being glad about him failing that it didn't even seem to occur to her what that would mean regarding Kaylee. Also, she's so busy checking to see if the camera is one her that at times it appears she's not even paying attention to what's being said. As for the jerk....he is one of the stupidest people I've ever seen.......and his guilt is written all over his face...... His lies are so obvious it's sickeniong. Personally I think Kaylee should be taken from both of them. MAYBEE gramma would be okay althought I question why her daughter was able to date this jerk or anyone else for that matter when she was, what.....12?????

 

Dr Phil you're usually pretty much on the ball but you pulled a big boner when you praised the "professionals" (meaning CPS). Maybe the ones in your town are ok, after all, they have to be aware you are there and sort of have to be on their best behavior but that's not the case in other places. I wouldn't even call them professionals. Most of them are idiots. All they do is cover their butts by saying how short-handed they are. I'm not saying they're all bad but for the most part I think it's just a job......just like everyone else. Our personal experiences with them caused us to stop fostering many years ago. I've seen all kinds of terrible stuff from turning a blind eye when their "favorite" foster parents did certain things to not opening their mouths to protect an innocent baby in a courtroom but instead sat silent while a senile judge sent the baby back home to a mother guilty of every kind of abuse & neglect known to man. I think you should do a show on THEM and bring the truth out abut the crummy job they do in so many instances.

 
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November 29, 2006, 1:15 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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 You go girl!  And when you're feeling battle weary, take a breather and then go some more!  I admire your perseverence, your character and your love for your child.  God chose you to be her Mom because He knew you would handle it!  Some how, some way you've made it this far, and God's not going to give up on you now!  You ARE making a difference.  Your child, and God know the truth.
     Thank you for sending me that message.  There were many times I questioned myself in those years if I was right or "insane" like my ex-husband led me to believe.  But I was right and I was put on this earth to protect my children 1st and foremost, but I never in my lifetime thought that my very own child would have to live through the same things I have, because I too was molested as a child for 6 years by a family member.  But I don't feel sorry for myself, in some ways I am glad I went through it for the simple fact that if I hadn't I wouldn't have caught onto her symptoms so quickly.   God be with you. 
 

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November 29, 2006, 1:15 pm PST

CPS and judge are listening

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Dr. Phil - what are you thinking????  I have never disagreed with you so much as I have with this show.  You tell the mother to dial it all down for Kaylee's sake!???  WHY?  So the courts and CPS can give her daughter to someone she believes is molesting her?  They do nothing for her, to protect her child and she's supposed to dial WHAT down?  She should just go along and do whatever they feel like doing because she's dialing it down?  You can bet that I'd do anything possible to help my child in this case.  And it's a shame that this mother isn't even able to protect her own child because CPS and the judge don't want to hear about it.  How pathetic and sad that situation is.  They can't at least have supervised visits until something is figured out?  

 

You sure questioned the mom and grandma about dialing it all down but you never once questioned Jeremy about why he didn't keep his end of the deal and have supervised visits until this is all worked out!  Why didn't you question him as hard as you question the mom?  I'm really disappointed in this whole situation.  You chastised those women for handing out flyers and such but didn't say a thing to Jeremy about failing to do  as you asked and only have supervised visits.

 

Don't you find it odd that the courts won't listen, the CPS caseworker won't even listen to anything anyone says including your own counselor, and that the police can't even call your show back and answer why they didn't finish scoring Jeremy's lie detector test? The part that he failed?   And why they didn't follow standard protocol for giving one?  Why are they protecting HIM and not that child?  Don't you find it strange that so many other mothers said they'd been through the same thing?  Didn't you ever hear of cities where they are all in cahoots together and accept bribe money to rule in a certain manner?  I think the city departments there at the very least need an independent investigation.  Let's hear from ALL the people who say the same thing has happened to them.  Call them out on it Dr. Phil - if this is happening it needs to be stopped. 

 

You seem to be way harder on the mother than the one accused of molesting, the one who failed one lie detector test, and by at least one account, the other one as well.  This man drinks alcohol before taking the test?  Why would anyone do that unless they wanted to be so relaxed they could pass a test that they should fail.  And he still failed.  Something is wrong here - the child needs to be protected until it is figured out and that city needs to be called to the mat to answer for their lack of response.  A three year old cannot protect herself, and now her mother cannot protect her without going to jail and leaving her with Jeremy.  And I'd like to know the answer to the question she asked you.  What would you do if it were your child Dr. Phil?  If no one would listen to you and you were forced to put your child in what you wholeheartedly believed to be an abusive situation, what would you do?  And how would you dial down the drama if no one would listen to you?

 

 

 

So Krista marches into Court and tells the Judge her ex is molesting her daughter without one shread of evidence or a single person there to testify.  You think the Judge should automatically throw the book at Jeremy and take away his rights as a father to see his child?  That's not the way our justice system works.  If it was, every custodial parent who didn't like their ex would pull the same crap in court.  We don't lock people away when there is not a shread of legal proof against them.  The Judge would have been legally in error if she had not done what she did.

 

Krista had every opportunity to bring proof to the Court about the alleged abuse.  She had a chance at Jeremy's hearing, and claimed she didn't have enough notice to have people there to testify.  But then her attorney filed their own ex parte motion and requested a hearing, and again, had no one there to testify.  Their only "evidence" was a OB/GYN letter saying there was no sign of abuse.    I don't know exactly what you should suggest the CPS and Courts do.  There is no proof of any abuse, just the words of a 3 year old who has been coached by her mother and grandmother. 

 

If I tell a 3 year old girl that Kermit the frog is evil, bad, that Kermit will hurt her, she shouldn't see Kermit, that I wished she didn't have to go visit Kermit, how long do you think it will be before she's in hysterics at the site of Kermit the frog!  That's exactly what I think has happened here. 

 
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November 29, 2006, 1:23 pm PST

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On the show there was talk about cps not responding to Kalee's mom. Dr. Phil made a comment that he has never witnessed them not doing there job. I have to say that Dr. Phil is not right when it comes to this. I personally have witnessed cps not do their job. To the extreme. One of my very good friends is a foster mom. At one point, several years ago in Oregon, there was a boy who my friend kept trying to get out of the home. His home life sucked! His mom was a druggie having sex in front of him and all kinds of bad stuff. My friend called cps over a period of 2 years trying to get them to do something about this and finally after a 2 year struggle they told her ok we will go next week. Well a few days before they came the boy killed himself. I have seen in both Oregon and Washington Cps not do there job. I think that it is a great understatement that cps does not sometimes screw things up. It makes me sad to see that Dr Phil does not think this could happen. No service is perfect and maybe in this situation it's not. Who really knows.

 

   I am with you they dont seem to Question Krista An Her Life an everyone in it.  An when She is in Day Care there could be someone hurting her there theres other Kids also the teachers. Kids touch each other wonder what  An when she was at Jermeys House she was with his wife most of the time he was working. So we don't know whats behind the closed doors on both sides.

 
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November 29, 2006, 1:30 pm PST

"They"

Kaylee Continues to say that "they" touched my pee pee. Whats with that. Would see say that Daddy, Jermey, whom ever is touching here pee pee. Something is very  fishy here and Kaylee needs to be protected for everyone at this point.
 

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