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July 14, 2008, 11:49 pm PDT

HI TRACE...

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How on earth did I miss that post about you and your walks?  KAK, as always, never misses a beat and you have just got to love her for being the kind and helpful  voice of reason.

 

Tell you what - once Stephanie is back in school I'll do those power walks with you.  We may be divided by an ocean but you won't be alone.  Hell knows, I could use the company.

 

Trace.

 

 

No worries there about the walks, will let you know when I go on my next one!

 

Didn't go for my walk this morning as after I had dropped Stephanie off at school, I had to go and buy a birthday present for Stephanie. Her 6th birthday is on this coming Friday(the 18th), yes she is turning 6, can you believe it!

 

Anyway, I got her a big parking garage to put all her toy cars in. She saw one the other week and said that she would like one of those, so she will get a nice surprise on her birthday.

 

We are having a party for her on Saturday, will let you know how it all goes afterwards.

 

Well you Take Care, Trace and hope to hear from you soon, Love Kelly.

 
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July 15, 2008, 4:50 pm PDT

Me too Kelly

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I know I'm very late in my response to your post but saw that no one else had replied to it and I just HAD to respond as it bothered me...

 

I know you are a very good mum, so don't take this wrong, but... Please do not leave your sweetheart, Stephanie, home by herself for half an hour -- or even a few minutes. I know it is not convenient for you, but so many things can happen while she is there by herself. I'd rather err on the side of caution.

 

Can you get a "stroller" type buggy so you can walk at your own pace and push her in it? I've seen lots of these "baby joggers" where the mum can run while pushing their little ones ahead of them. I'll look for a website, oh, here's one... and they are not too expensive.

 

[http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_ba/104-0982212-1509518?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Dbaby-products&field-keywords=baby+joggers&tag=themusicsource866-20

 

Copy this website address, paste into the address box, remove the brackets, and "enter"

 

You'll probably find other sites that are in your area. Do a search for "baby joggers" or "strollers"

 

I know you would not deliberately leave Stephanie in harms way, but sometimes we overlook the possible consequences by not considering everything. Love to you and hope I've helped. :-) kak

 

Ok I am trying hard to catch up and am having terrible difficulty even focusing on this dang screen without gettting sick but I want to say this before I forget. I am glad Kak said something I almost did but just didn't have the right words to say it Kelly.  I agree please never leave Stephanie at home alone, no matter how close by you think you are it won't be close enough if anything were to happen.

 

There is a family in Wisconsin that had only one car and one day it was snowing or raining or whatever and the dad didn't want to walk to work which was his norm. Mom in her houserobe drove him around the block to work so he wouldn't get wet. When she got home their home was in flames. All of their children were sleeping due to the early hour and all died. I heard that story when I first had Ed and it scared me horribly.

 

If it isn't feasible to take Stephanie with you then perhaps a neighbor can watch her for you to do your walk? Are there any babysitter type girls in your neighborhood? If not I think I would invest in a treadmill perhaps then. 

 

Ok just had to sound my echo on this, not trying to be bossy just worried.

 

Btw I am still terribly sick and will be back to read the rest when the dang screen stops swimming in front of me.  =( 

 

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Ami

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July 15, 2008, 6:52 pm PDT

Karen I'm so glad you showed up

I wanted to tell you how concerned I am for you and so sorry you are so ill. You know I'm here for ya girl.  *hugs* Let us know you're ok when you get a chance. Miss you being around sweetie....
 
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July 15, 2008, 9:17 pm PDT

HI AMI...

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Ok I am trying hard to catch up and am having terrible difficulty even focusing on this dang screen without gettting sick but I want to say this before I forget. I am glad Kak said something I almost did but just didn't have the right words to say it Kelly.  I agree please never leave Stephanie at home alone, no matter how close by you think you are it won't be close enough if anything were to happen.

 

There is a family in Wisconsin that had only one car and one day it was snowing or raining or whatever and the dad didn't want to walk to work which was his norm. Mom in her houserobe drove him around the block to work so he wouldn't get wet. When she got home their home was in flames. All of their children were sleeping due to the early hour and all died. I heard that story when I first had Ed and it scared me horribly.

 

If it isn't feasible to take Stephanie with you then perhaps a neighbor can watch her for you to do your walk? Are there any babysitter type girls in your neighborhood? If not I think I would invest in a treadmill perhaps then. 

 

Ok just had to sound my echo on this, not trying to be bossy just worried.

 

Btw I am still terribly sick and will be back to read the rest when the dang screen stops swimming in front of me.  =( 

 

Hugs,

Ami

xoxo

Hope it will not be too much longer before you start to feel better, nothing worst than when you are sick. Mum's aren't allowed to get sick, are we?!lol!!

 

No worries about your concern's, Stephanie is now back at school, so I will be able to go for my walks while she is in school. I am also going to join a Gym, so that I can go and tone up abit, as I've been loosing some weight lately and now I really need to tone up my belly for starters!

 

That story about that family was just terrible, so very sad.

 

Well you Take Care, Ami and hope you will feel more human sooner than later, Love Kelly.

 
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July 16, 2008, 7:13 am PDT

Trace

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For not beating me up and trying to educate me instead!  I really do appreciate your opinions (and Ami - your long posts).

 

Neecie - what you said about things that go on here in our own neighbourhoods, towns and cities is absolutely true.  Did you know that we've just had our 29th homicide here in Toronto this year?  I think we're surpassing a record for violence.  Most of these homicides have been committed by children - those  under 18 who carry guns and take knives to school.  It's unnerving.  This fall, when school starts again, there will be police officers in the corridors of some schools.  Hell, when I was a kid we had hall monitors - you know, the goody-goody kids who would report on you if you didn't have a hall pass to go to the washroom.

 

And the police force here - well I do admire them for what they take on every day.  But lately, several have been arrested for participating in drug grow-ops, sexual abuse and absconding with evidence (i.e. rifles, guns, explosives).  They don't spend jail time - they get suspended or demoted.  It takes away from all of those who try to do good.  Who do you trust?

 

And Ami - I did live under a dictatorship in Brazil.  I think I was only seventeen when I realized that yes, there were two parties you could vote for, but if you voted for the wrong one you could get shot.  My family was stopped several times at roadblocks for no reason, just because we looked different and had a big car.  At one point she of the feather boa didn't have her passport, so she was escorted home by the military to get it, while my father and brother and I waited in the car, surrounded by machine guns, until they brought  her back.  I hesitate to say this, but they only let us go because we were Canadians.  It helped that Mom charmed them.

 

At nineteen, the man I fell in love with in Brazil (an American who worked for Firestone at the time) was relocated to Chile.  I followed him there a few months later.  It  was just after the Allende bombings.  I took the bus from the Santiago airport to La Serena where he lived.  All I can remember are the craters in the roads, the bullet holes in the walls.  And the sad, sad faces of the people.  There was a curfew - you were only allowed to go out between ten in the morning and ten at night.  If you were on the streets during "the bad hours" you'd get shot.  No questions asked.

 

So yes, I'm conflicted.  I've never been one to react on what the media says - because everything to me is on a personal level.  If I were to harm anyone in anyway, it would be because they're right there in my face at my own doorstep where I live, threatening someone I love. 

 

I do admire all of you though for your strength of conviction and your patriotism.  I accept it and will try to continue to understand.

 

Thanks again.

 

T. 

 

 

 

 

I'm glad you were not offended. Your stories of living under a dictatorship remind me a lot of my friends from Zimbabwe. It's just a different scarier world.

 

And that is the thing to me, I don't intend that world ever make it to my doorstep and would love to rid the world of it ever making it to anyone else's either.

 

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~Ami

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July 16, 2008, 7:37 am PDT

Bah...

I was going to catch up today, I got up feeling a wee bit better I thought, but the screen won't be still.  I am having the worst nausea/vertigo I can remember ever having. I am hoping it is just meds making me sick, it is some very strong stuff they have given me. I sleep in two hour runs at a time. My backside is getting plumb sore from it honestly.

 

Haven't heard from the docs yet about when to see the specialist about colon resection. My gp thinks I may want to do "elective colon resection".  I get limp at the thought of it. I guess the thought it that if I keep having bouts of diverticulitis it is only going to get worse each time and eventually will perferate my colon. Suxxors to be me.

 

I have either become the biggest wimp known to woman, or I have just suffered through a horrendously painful weekend. Now I like to think I am tough, I gave birth all three times naturally (though none were supposed to be they just ended up that way). I wait until an abcessed tooth has swollen my entire face into incredible hulk form. And I lived with gall stones and gall stone attacks for a year before I would have that surgery. <sigh> So I have never really thought of myself as a pain wimp, I'm a pretty tough cookie...or WAS that is.

 

This weekend in the ER they asked the usual question of "on a scale of 1 to 10 where would you rate your pain?" Now I for one think this is a stupid way to measure someone's pain but in reality what else has 'modern' medicine got really? I generally suck it up and have never given an answer more than a 6 in my life. Saturday I blurted "10" without a seconds thought. The doc looked kind of surprised, but I just didn't care. I had been so sick for the previous 12 hours that just no more was tolerable. I wanted to roll around and blubber frankly. So there, I was a "10". Probably the only time in my life I will ever be a "10" and definately not the kind of "10" I wanted to be. =/

 

I think since my surgery everything seems to hurt more, like it is magnified or something. Maybe that is lupus talking, arrrrgghhh.....I don't know and really don't even care. I just want to feel better. Ok someone call me a wha-a-a-amublance would ya?! Yeah right after you pass me the cheese....damnit nevermind they said no dairy. =P

 

Anyway, a couple of things to say before I have to call it, my innards are churning faster than I can type. 

 

Kelly, I think you will love going to the gym!! I loved it when I was going. It is very refreshing and just plain old feels good!! Glad you are losing weight too as long as that is what you want to be doing. =)

 

JP, I can never walk into a furniture store again and not try to visualize whether the employees have as much fun as you or not. ;) I suspect not.

 

Kak, just a quick note to let you know that John did get your birthday gift. Absolutely adorable!!!! I noticed he has it sitting right next to his computer. He was supposed to drop you a thank you and you may get it yet. He is gone to orchestra camp this week so I can't ask him if he got it done or not. Boys. =P  Anyway just wanted you to know he loved the gift!!

 

Neecie.....YAY!!! is there really anything else to say!

 

Loretta, Vicki I know you gals are busy with your mini-mees hehe!

 

Oh and last note, John made first chair at camp!! His little bright light can shine on the worst of days. =)

 

Hugs,

~Ami

xoxox

 

 

 
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July 16, 2008, 7:55 am PDT

Oh Kak

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Irena Sendler

There recently was a death of a 98 year-old lady named Irena.

During WWII, Irena got permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist.She had an 'ulterior motive.' Being German, she KNEW what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews.Irena smuggled infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried. Shecarried a burlap sackin the back of her truck for larger kids. She also had a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto.

The soldiers, of course, wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises. During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants.

She was caughtand the Nazi's broke both her legs and arms and beat her severely. Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar buried under a tree in her back yard. After the war she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunite their family. Most, of course, had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.

Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize butshe was not selected.Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming.

Check out her full story at: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler

I just now read this.....Al Gore over this woman shows what I have said for a bit now. The Nobel Peace Prize sadly has deteriorated to a pop fest contest instead of the honor it once was. I have been saying that since they awarded it to Yassir Arrafat. When they gave it to a terrorist I knew it had gone to s***.  =(

 

~Ami

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July 16, 2008, 11:12 am PDT

Karen I don't know if you remember

about four yrs ago my oldest sister had a perferated colon and she dang near died. We were told she probably wouldn't make it. All the bm's were going into her system and it's very toxic. She was in so much pain after a colonoscopy that she went to the emergency room and waited hours. They gave her a laxative! Hours later she went in an ambulance and when her dr saw her ct scan he said "Ellen I have to get you in the operating room NOW!!!!"  We were scared to death and she stayed in the hospital for....2 wks? They removed a large part of her colon and she had to use the bag and then, when she was strong enough they reconnected it. Now she's a trooper (we all are) but there comes a point when you just gotta do what you gotta do. She's perfectly fine now and knows that next yr she has to have another colonoscopy and says she'll do it. My other sister was saying that after what happened to Ellen she was putting it off and Ellen was all about "You have to do this".

 

HITYL?

 
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July 17, 2008, 9:06 am PDT

JP

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about four yrs ago my oldest sister had a perferated colon and she dang near died. We were told she probably wouldn't make it. All the bm's were going into her system and it's very toxic. She was in so much pain after a colonoscopy that she went to the emergency room and waited hours. They gave her a laxative! Hours later she went in an ambulance and when her dr saw her ct scan he said "Ellen I have to get you in the operating room NOW!!!!"  We were scared to death and she stayed in the hospital for....2 wks? They removed a large part of her colon and she had to use the bag and then, when she was strong enough they reconnected it. Now she's a trooper (we all are) but there comes a point when you just gotta do what you gotta do. She's perfectly fine now and knows that next yr she has to have another colonoscopy and says she'll do it. My other sister was saying that after what happened to Ellen she was putting it off and Ellen was all about "You have to do this".

 

HITYL?

Seems I do remember you telling us about that. And that is basically what I have to consider. If you recall this is how they found my cancer, I was at the doc for diverticulitis (or what I thought was the worst stomach bug eva!). The ct scan happened to pick up the orange size tumor on my kidney, completely by accident as I didn't even know I had kidney problems. =(  Anyway, this is now the third (and I think fourth actually) round of diver in two years. The doc says it is likely to become more and more frequent.

 

He also reminded me that we put the diver on the back burner when they found the cancer, and haven't really addressed it. If it had been a one time thing I think it would be fine, but it isn't a one time thing. For myself I think my colon just doens't work right. My grandfather and his father died of colon cancer, two or three of his sisters had lifelong battles with diver and one died from peritonitis (blood poisoning) from a ruptured either colon or stomach. My bet is it was colon. I think I just have a rotten system.

 

It doesn't matter what I eat or don't eat, and my doc says the food thing with seeds, nuts etc has not been his case. Oh and did I say he has had this for years and finally last year had part of his colon removed? Yeah, he has. So one thing for sure I have complete faith that my doc knows his stuff about diverticulitis. He is sending me to his colo-rectal doc. lol You know when you get to a doc's doc you are in good hands. I see him next week.

 

Raj and I have been talking about this pretty heavy. I think we both wonder if my health not recovering like it should can't be contributed to colon probs. If that is the case and this is going to be a chronic issue I just want it out. Though another surgery, like I said, makes me limp to think about. Yet being as sick as I was this past weekend in reality makes me much more limp. Friday night I was so sick, I remember thinking if this is the end then it will be just fine. I was in that much misery.

 

I am still weak and dizzy and feel yuk, but it is a sight better than it was for sure. Tonight is John's concert, he called last night all excited. He is going to be performing a solo during the concert. He was nervous and excited all at the same time.  I think he wanted to wait and surprise us but couldn't stand it. lol 

 

Things like that I don't want to miss. =)

 

I will know more after I talk with the colon doc. I won't be surprised at all though if he recommends surgery. It helps a lot to know that your sister, once she recovered, is doing great. I want to feel great. hehe

 

Hugs,

~Ami

xoxox 

 

 

 
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July 17, 2008, 12:55 pm PDT

Ami

There are days you know, when you can't come near me because of the gout.  And I have it in joints that haven't even been discovered yet.  My cats sensed the pain along time ago and used to try and rub up against me but even the touch of their fur hurt and now they have learned to stay away.  And heaven forbid if someone says something nice to me, like "I know how you feel ..." and I (even though I'm a "pacifist"!) just want to smack them!

 

Truth be known,  on a scale of 1 to 10 painwise - I'm pretty sure we all want to shout out 1000!  But we remain stoic, so as not frighten others or ourselves.  I remember when I fell down after having a seizure and broke my upper arm - it was the one with this baseball size gout in the elbow.  I'm in the hospital while they were trying to set the cast, and the elbow hurt more than the arm and they kept poking it, going, "What's that?"  I turned to my daughter and she of the feather boa, who were there at the time, and said to them, "One more poke on the elbow, and the doctor gets a knee in the balls!"

 

Ami - be tough and strong.  And be well.  Remember the old Ami/Trace adage?  "We're not going anywhere - we still have people to piss off."

 

I hug you.

 

T.

 

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