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July 23, 2008, 8:07 am PDT

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Who loves ya baby?1 lol I feel the same way. She's just soooo cute!

 
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July 23, 2008, 10:21 am PDT

It's a messy situation

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How do you not but the bigger picture how da hell do you?! Let his friend stay? My ex and I knew all of the time that our relationship was not stable and holding on was a really big thing and we "knew" no way in hell could anyone ever live with us. You sorta have that with Raj and then it's his very best friend so how can you not? And you feel like crap most of the time and you know what stress does to you so how can you? Ya know what? I think Ami needs to take care of Ami. There is no way this is gonna work to your benefit. And I'm not talking about  anything other than your mental, emotional, phsycial health. In that order. You need to do what you need to do for Ami.

 

It is absolutely horrible that his friend has to go thru that situation. "You didn't cause it, you can't cure it, you can't control it."  Wish you were healthy sweeite, and I know if that were the case, he'd be welcomed, but real is real and you just don't have it in  you. Even Raj doesn't like the idea. So. Given all that maybe put your heads together and see what the alternatives are.

 

*hugs*

His bud, we'll call him Rob, well Rob is married...sort of. Yeah I know, there is no sort of married, but for most of the first year I knew him, they were seperated. He would be in town with a new date every other weekend. All the while I was under the impression he was in the process of a divorce. The suddenly he starts coming to our house with his wife. Someone I like very much in fact. I never mentioned he had ever visited us with anyone else in tow. She sort of fished around it by saying she was glad he was staying with us all that time they were seperated. *cough, cough* well he wasn't here all that time and he wasn't alone when he was here. I'm just thankful that she never asked point blank. I won't lie for him. Anyway the issue there is she is horrid alcoholic. When she dries out there marriage is grand when she starts drinking again it is the pits evidently. I have never seen her drunk so I don't know, but the guys (Rob and Raj) tell me she is mean.

 

Anyway long story short (who me.....no way ;P), she has been on a bender since he found out about the hep C and the cancer. He doesn't want to stay there with her, not to mention the drive is two hours or so to the hospital from their home. We are 30 minutes from the hospital. And, we have plenty of room, as he well knows he has stayed here before.

 

Some of the folks in my cancer group said 'no way'. It feels very wrong to not invite him to stay. But you make a good point about relationships and whether they can tolerate more living with us. Raj and I still walk a fine line, and still have our occassional blowouts. Rob is opinionated and won't mind a bit butting in everything. He has done it before...from John to money. He is sort of a know-it-all. Can be fun, and is good for Raj to have a guy to blather with, but equally annoying like all men are to me. lol And he and Raj have been friends for years and years. Rob has no family left, one son in the military he doesn't have a lot of contact with and two sisters he hasn't seen in over 20 years. That's it.

 

I think if that were me, I don't know what I would do at all. His lifestyle sadly has contributed heavily to his situation he finds himself in and that is hard. I feel really bad though not helping. It feels very very wrong. Raj doesn't like the idea at all because though Rob says he will help out, Raj says he won't. Lord knows we can't afford to foot the bill for a boarder, he would have to pitch in and help out money wise. But there isn't much way he is going to be working. Bah, it just suxxors without a doubt.  =(

 

Thanks for letting me vent, this is eating on me.....

~Ami

xoxox

 
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July 23, 2008, 12:12 pm PDT

Is This Normal Social Discussion

It is great to see JPs bluebird back.  I missed the little guy too. 

 

So JP, not to be too forward but I have seen more than one person mention your fun emails....ummm....sniff, sniff, do I smell funny or something?  ; D

 
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July 23, 2008, 1:16 pm PDT

Mothers

Neecie-sounds like you have the right perspective on the mom/grandmom thing.  My relationship with mine is minimal at best.  I've tried but when you are the only one trying it gets to be exhausting.  When we speak things seem fine but it is always just small talk.  She lives close by but doesn't come to visit except for Christmas so I've stopped inviting.  I have to go to her and it is never by invitation.  She doesn't call me ever so I have to be the one to make all effort so I have basically stopped trying so hard.  I invite her for the kids school events but she doesn't come. 

 

I honestly don't think that my mother likes me which is fine except that she has no relationship with my kids.  She usually doesn't bother with their birthdays unless I invite her over for cake and she will sometimes come.  I had a real hard time with this until it dawned on me that maybe my mother would have been better off with having an only child.  I have two siblings and she only has a relationship with one of us.  And that one doesn't have a relationship with either me or my other sister or father.  When I mentioned this realization to my sister she laughed and said "and it took you how long to figure that out".

 

I can only do better by my kids and learn how not to treat them when they are adults.  I am very fortunate to have my dad and stepmom for my kids and they can't miss what they never had with my mother.  I am at a loss as to the whys of my mom but have reached a place where it only pisses me off a few times a year.

 

Anyway, good luck with the rest of your visit and enjoy the party.

 
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July 23, 2008, 1:20 pm PDT

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Have I told you how much I appreciate your posts?  Somehow you make things feel good and right.

 

Trace.

Trace, you have but thank you, it is always nice to hear it again!  I hope you know how much I enjoy reading what ever you have to write.  You have a magical way with words that makes me want more and more....

Hugs, Loretta

 
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July 23, 2008, 1:49 pm PDT

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Ami- Rock and a hard place comes to mind.  I have no words of wisdom and can understand your difficulty with this situation.  Just ask yourself if you do this what will be the potential effect on your health and can you afford to risk it physically and emotionally?  Can you agree to do it on a trial basis and if it works out fine, if not he goes to Plan B?

 

 

 

 

 
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July 23, 2008, 7:07 pm PDT

Loretta

I'm thinking "What da heck is she talking about?" And I realized you arent' on my list. I think I get the best ones and alot of people tell me that too. Of course I"ll add you. Omg!  Another one! BUT for you yes, yes, yes! It's alot of people, and most don't ever, ever email me and it really is alot of effort so I was trying to limit it. Usually if I don't laugh out loud I delete them. But there's alot of political things we'd all never know about and Kathy for SOME reason loves to correct my butt. (playing Kathy. I like that you do it) So I think you have my addy. Just send me something and I'll add it. You won't be sorry I promise. And I'm sorry. You are invited to my house for Derby ya know, so you can't think I don't love you too!

 

You haven't heard any Trace trip stories have you? ahem! I am so bad....

 
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July 23, 2008, 7:22 pm PDT

ok. Gotta post a message again or it won't let me in

 
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July 23, 2008, 7:43 pm PDT

Ok then Ami

You have to take care of you. I know that I know more about your situation and it screams to me NO!!!!! You can not do this. You are not physically able to handle what this will do to you. It truely is as simple as that. I know you have grounded me many times in these yrs and you absolutely have to hear me roar DON'T DO IT! Now you have "the excuse". I know you. You can not, can not, can not do this. It will kill you. Rob got himself in this situation and Rob needs to figure this out. You guys are his only hope, but when he finds out it isn't an option he has to decide what the other thing is. It's his drama, that he created for himself, and you guys don't need to go down that road with him. "you didn't cause it, you can't control it, and you can't cure it." Remember that. You more than any other person I know has to take care of Ami. Period. End of conversation. You without Raj in the picture (which of course in more than you should be handleing) can not, can not handle this. If you were healthy of course. But you aren't Ami and that's the real of this. Do not, do not, do not do this.

 

And of course I'm here for you when you do.......

 
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July 23, 2008, 8:12 pm PDT

(((((hugs))))))

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You have to take care of you. I know that I know more about your situation and it screams to me NO!!!!! You can not do this. You are not physically able to handle what this will do to you. It truely is as simple as that. I know you have grounded me many times in these yrs and you absolutely have to hear me roar DON'T DO IT! Now you have "the excuse". I know you. You can not, can not, can not do this. It will kill you. Rob got himself in this situation and Rob needs to figure this out. You guys are his only hope, but when he finds out it isn't an option he has to decide what the other thing is. It's his drama, that he created for himself, and you guys don't need to go down that road with him. "you didn't cause it, you can't control it, and you can't cure it." Remember that. You more than any other person I know has to take care of Ami. Period. End of conversation. You without Raj in the picture (which of course in more than you should be handleing) can not, can not handle this. If you were healthy of course. But you aren't Ami and that's the real of this. Do not, do not, do not do this.

 

And of course I'm here for you when you do.......

You are right, though my conscience is being rather beastly to me over it. Good Samaratin is deep ingrained in me and always has been. I always, always want to stop and help people on the road....my family always wails for me not to so I never do. But it never fails that I want to stop.

 

You are right, I just cannot do this. And I will have to be the scape goat in this too. Raj told me today that Rob is calling him everyday now and dropping hints like mad. He sees his doc tomorrow to get started on treatments.  It is putting a lot of pressure on Raj, but I feel certain he is not going to let him come live with us. He will use my health as the excuse too. But I can hear Rob saying, "I can help her out". This is just painful all the way around. We care a lot about him, we really do. And Lord knows he helped Raj in hour of need, (though he is the one who told me I was stupid to call the law....blah, blah, blah.) I told him to blow it our his arse. lol That is the type relationship we have, no tiptoeing here. =P  Except for this, because it is very hard to come right out and say 'no' to this.

 

We have a finished basement that is complete with full bathroom...that no one is using except for storage. He knows this. That is one reason it feels really selfish to say no.

 

*sigh* I guess we just have to wait and see what type of chemo it is and what it entails. If he just needs an overnight occassionally that is one thing, but full time living is something else. What is it Kak says *heavy, heavy sigh*

 

Hugs,

~ami

xoxox

 

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