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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:23:14 pm
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Do you believe the saying, "Once a cheater, always a cheater"? Or can a two-timing womanizer change his ways for good? When Dyson last spoke with Dr. Phil, he stormed off stage after his wife, Rebecca, learned the truth about his recent affairs, just eight months after their wedding. Now, Dyson is back, ready to stay seated and learn how he can change his behavior, get out of the dog house and save his marriage. Then, Corey had the courage to face his revenge-seeking ex-girlfriend the last time he was on the show, but was unprepared for how the public and local media would respond to his story. Corey says his job as a firefighter was made more difficult when his dating behavior made the front page news. Now, Corey returns to show people that there's a whole lot more to him than his dating mistakes. Is it enough to save his reputation? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 29, 2006, 4:49 pm PST

Everyone is fallible

Yet to say because I am this or that means I can act unbecoming with no apologies is immature and inventing a debt nobody owes person. The Fireman owes the eighteen year old and all he cheated on an apology "and" Fire Department and community. The Fireman and other fella need to grow a conscience in therapy as both are a disservice to themselves as much as those they say they care about. Cheating on someone kills their self esteem and self worth so Fireman and other fella need to get over themselves. As honorable behavior is the most attactive feature anyone can have and their conduct is dishonorable. I'd say the Fireman is creating a lot of baggage in all the women he is exploiting...so should men they date in future send a baggage fee to him. Fireman feels embarrassed and guilty because he should because being in an honorable position doesn't exempt anyone from dishonorable behavior including Firemen.

It was a firewoman that set some of the wild fires in the western part of USA.

A former fire chief tried to molest his niece.

Priests have been dishonorable.

Teachers have been dishonorable.

We will never look at Oval Office the same.

With great responsibility comes great responsibility because young people look up to leaders in community and nation. That's why it is especially important for leaders to not take leadership roles IF they are incapable of being leaders. Fireman is leading women into bed and instead needs to lead his life in a way that complements his co-workers not gives them a blackeye. Yes, the institutions are bigger than the bad apples...yet a bad apple isn't a good apple because of institution he/she belongs to... Honor is earned both on and off the field of life. We don't overlook unbecoming behavior because a person feels their other behavior somehow exempts them from accountability. Honorable positions mean we should raise the bar of our behavior not lower the bar giving these institutions and those who look up to them a blackeye behaving badly. Behaving badly is behaving badly whoever does it....
 
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November 29, 2006, 4:49 pm PST

Dr. Phil should have tested Dyson's wife too

What is the level of her self-esteem when her husband cheat on her with 25 women? I know her type , it is all about winning. She is sitting there patiently waiting for Dyson to come to his senses and stop his behaviour and then she will be the winner!! The problem now is that she is living her husbands life in the most unhealthiest way. It if the fate of women with low-self esteem. "If only my partner can change I will feel better". She needs to get away from this man and learn how to be herslef without trying to tame a man who might never complete her
 
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November 29, 2006, 4:56 pm PST

baggage

Corey and men like him ARE the baggage young women upon which he favors develop and carry thru life. If his intents were honest there is no fault in seeking one without this "baggage" but his conduct shows the hypocrisy of his character.
 
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November 29, 2006, 4:56 pm PST

Dyson Seeking Help

I think Dyson's efforts to express his need to feel in sync with the therapist he would be seeing  were not heard or not taken seriously. He was told that "Shaft" wouldn't be coming to his aide. This statement from Dr.Phil tells me he understood Dyson's concern about having a White therapist. 

I believe he was saying he would like someone who would understand who he is and what his life has been like. He mentioned wanting a mentor. I don't think he was heard.

It seemed to be the opinion that anyone with years of experience could help him. I think he needs a strong Black therapist/role model. Culture is core to how things were done to him and how they were internalized by him. He needs someone healthy from his culture as a therapist/role model.
 
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November 29, 2006, 5:08 pm PST

Relax People!!!!

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I could not agree with you more-you nailed it right on the dot!!!!!!!!! Thank you for unstanding us and if you too are a firefighter-whether paid or volunteer-thank you. We are a band of brothers and sisters and when push comes to shove, we will always have each others backs.

This Corey has done nothing wrong.  He has had some issues in a relationship, nothing more.  Nothing most people have not gone through.  I agree that most people look up too people in service positions, but people in public service are HUMAN first  and we have the same problems other people do.  Corey's problem with his girlfriend was only exposed because he made the thoughtful decision to go on Dr. Phil's show to apease his ex.

Lay off the poor guy:). 

 
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November 29, 2006, 5:26 pm PST

It is true that persons in public service are held to a higher standard , have you asked your nurses, doctors, teachers , lawyers, clergy thier most intimate behavior lately? I have been married to a retired firefighter for 32 years and he completed 26 1/

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Yet to say because I am this or that means I can act unbecoming with no apologies is immature and inventing a debt nobody owes person. The Fireman owes the eighteen year old and all he cheated on an apology "and" Fire Department and community. The Fireman and other fella need to grow a conscience in therapy as both are a disservice to themselves as much as those they say they care about. Cheating on someone kills their self esteem and self worth so Fireman and other fella need to get over themselves. As honorable behavior is the most attactive feature anyone can have and their conduct is dishonorable. I'd say the Fireman is creating a lot of baggage in all the women he is exploiting...so should men they date in future send a baggage fee to him. Fireman feels embarrassed and guilty because he should because being in an honorable position doesn't exempt anyone from dishonorable behavior including Firemen.

It was a firewoman that set some of the wild fires in the western part of USA.

A former fire chief tried to molest his niece.

Priests have been dishonorable.

Teachers have been dishonorable.

We will never look at Oval Office the same.

With great responsibility comes great responsibility because young people look up to leaders in community and nation. That's why it is especially important for leaders to not take leadership roles IF they are incapable of being leaders. Fireman is leading women into bed and instead needs to lead his life in a way that complements his co-workers not gives them a blackeye. Yes, the institutions are bigger than the bad apples...yet a bad apple isn't a good apple because of institution he/she belongs to... Honor is earned both on and off the field of life. We don't overlook unbecoming behavior because a person feels their other behavior somehow exempts them from accountability. Honorable positions mean we should raise the bar of our behavior not lower the bar giving these institutions and those who look up to them a blackeye behaving badly. Behaving badly is behaving badly whoever does it....
 
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November 29, 2006, 5:34 pm PST

True

Yes, acting dishonorable and then rationalizing...IS... a human problem to solve by learning to act honorable. No matter how you use the word IS. An excuse for acting dishonorable is only that and never a good reason. Both men caught with pants down and, hopefully, saw as compromising a position for themselves as position they were putting those they care about in. Both giving everyone a blackeye including themselves sacrificing their integrity trying to act like studs. Oddly enough stud sounds macho yet is the same definition as given a whore. Both genders can whore around and it isn't any prettier when a man does than when a woman does. Ewwwwwwwwww....
 
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November 29, 2006, 5:41 pm PST

Corey vs. Clinton Behaviors

Unfortunately or fortunately, Corey, the world does judge how one conducts him/herself in private life and relates it to their professional judgment and soundness.  Look at Bill Clinton.  Life is not led in solitude.  Your actions affect others.  If you are not faithful and true in your personal undertakings, why would people think that you are faithful and true in your professional undertakings?  While I do not think that you or Bill Clinton should lose your job because of activities that did not affect your job, I do believe that it says something about the character of a person who is deceptive.  In both cases, I believe the men somehow let their sexual nature guide them instead of their intellect or insight.  You seem like a nice guy.  I doubt if you would tolerate a co-worker omitting facts or dancing around the truth.  Try to figure out how to translate your integrity at the job into integrity in your personal dealings with women. 
 
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November 29, 2006, 5:44 pm PST

Corey

I was 9 years older than my bride who was 19. Our son was born while she was still 19. My father was 10 years older than my mother. What if?... supposing Corey loves his mother with all his heart, and his father is much older than her, and supposing she was 19 when he was born? Would it ever cross his mind that younger women are forbidden?  In my case I don't recall ever being judged for dating someone younger, and noone ever even mentioned anything wrong with all of that. What I'm getting at is a couple of things... how can we judge someone until we have walked in their shoes?,,, and who ever wrote any rules about what is morally right, the different rules for different occupations (or the unemployed), and that we are allowed to assume that when a person carries a firefighter's badge, he/she uses it to impress others and get dates, and I'll add one more... is there a rule that the definition of "baggage" is purposefully negative?

I like Corey. He has shown a strength of character. His manner and his straightforward honesty are admirable. I believe him. It's a shame his hometown people are so much like my hometown people. I bet they never even contacted him about their frontpage headline.

Dyson's issue was totally different.
 
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November 29, 2006, 5:52 pm PST

Curious

I wonder why Corey is so concerned about what everyone thinks about his behavior with women?  If that is the way he wants to live, he should live that way.   I think that he is extremely worried about what other people think and therefore, it must bother him or he wouldn't go on national television to justify his behavior!
 
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