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Topic : 11/29 Out of the Doghouse

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:23:14 pm
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Do you believe the saying, "Once a cheater, always a cheater"? Or can a two-timing womanizer change his ways for good? When Dyson last spoke with Dr. Phil, he stormed off stage after his wife, Rebecca, learned the truth about his recent affairs, just eight months after their wedding. Now, Dyson is back, ready to stay seated and learn how he can change his behavior, get out of the dog house and save his marriage. Then, Corey had the courage to face his revenge-seeking ex-girlfriend the last time he was on the show, but was unprepared for how the public and local media would respond to his story. Corey says his job as a firefighter was made more difficult when his dating behavior made the front page news. Now, Corey returns to show people that there's a whole lot more to him than his dating mistakes. Is it enough to save his reputation? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 29, 2006, 7:54 pm PST

About Corey

 

      I don't feel that someone's personal life has anything to do with his or her job. It dosen't 

     seem  that his personal affairs has affected his work, so  why should it even be an issue?

 

 
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November 29, 2006, 8:32 pm PST

11/29 Out of the Doghouse

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This Dyson is beyond a pig.  I was so appalled watching him.  his wife needs to tell him not to let the door hit him on the way out.  regardless of whether or not he is going to change, the way he has behaved is inexcusable.  she should go find a real man who actually respects her instead of an uncivilized barbarian who can't seem to control his animal instincts.

I want to say that even though I really don't agree with Dyson about his (or even MY!)  right to have sex with multiple partners in a committed relationshp (whether one happens to be male or  female), I think many of us are missing a big point here.......to me, the point is that he and his lovely wife are not just people......they're also SOULS.

 

And if a person believes ( as I do) in re-incarnation, things in THIS life can make a lot more sense than we usually get on  the evening news 

 

Who knows what we as indiviiduals might have done, or gone through in a past life in a different country? It might be very healing to think of our problems from that perspective.

 

Bless you all.........

Me.

 

 

 
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November 29, 2006, 9:02 pm PST

HE ISNT MARRIED YET

I think the way that Corey was judged by his home town was awful! I thought Dr. Phil would have stood up for him more! He is a dating man and I dont feel that he is a pig at all! I actually think when he finds the right woman he will put as much pride into her as he does himself and his job! My brother in law is a Fire Fighter and they dont just hand you that job! You have to do alot of hard work and earn alot of respect from co workers. He is not just a good looking model on the firetruck! Or he may be but he deserves to be there! How dare anyone critisize this man that is making that sacrifice for his community. He is not out scouting teens! It is obvious this just happened to him. He was obviously used to dating more mature women who would have dumped him or who would have reacted different. I dont think he is right to date all of these women at the same time but I also dont think his intent was to search for a young niave girl. I have been cheated on and gone through a divorce and then went through the dating scene and I just dont think he is any different looking for the right girl! I wish him the very best and I truley hope other women watch this and realize what a honorable man he is to his community and how when you are with a woman and the right one she will be so lucky as to have a dedicated man like Corey. Again I dont think it is ok to date teens or multiple women but I also think that the women should be responsible in who they pick to date.
 
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November 29, 2006, 11:43 pm PST

well dr phil i guess i was wating to hear dyson tell you he was sorry

for getting up and walking out on you on his first visit, but it didnt happen, oh well and as far as corey goes, wow i cant amagine why the town he lived in would ever put his story on the front page of the local news paper, hell corey it would seem to me you really got off easy, damn boy if i had been having sex with a 17 year old child when i was 35, have you got any idea where my butt would be even unto this day? well ill tell you i would still be in prison if an angrey parent hadent gotton hold of my ass first!! man your one sick puppy to go on the dr phil show and tell the country you were having sex with a 17 year old girl cause she has a hot body, well my sick pup i havent seen any 17 year old girls who dont look really hot, but my little man there still children at age 17, and you were 35, dont tell me you didnt have any idea what yiou were doing was wrong, and to show a tape of firefighters in action to try to justify your actions was really a low blow to the entire country,that in no way makes what you did wright, even when a 17 year old wanted to have sexwith you , my man you knew better she didnt!!!!, and if the state you live in allows old men to have sex with children than that state undermines every thing dr phil stands for as far as protecting our children,i just hope dr phil thinks what you did was wrong as well, and he really needs to find that girls parents and see just where in the hell they were while all this was going on, buddy there are laws aganst what you did, and i cant for the life of me understand why in the hell you can get away with it just becouse your a fireman,the laws of man must change, for there is no true justice like this!!!!!
 
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November 29, 2006, 11:51 pm PST

hunny if your husband left you for a 15 year old

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AHAHAHAHA!!!! 

This message is for Corey, the firefighter who got involved with an 18 year old.

 

I'd like to say thank you. 

 

Why am I so happy?  Because I have suffered the loss of my first husband due to a 15 year old girl.  When there are men out there like you that attract those younger women away from the married men....it's one less girl we have to worry about our husbands chasing after or being chased and a family being torn apart. 

 

You can now call yourself a sugar-daddy.

 

you are sooooo much better off with out him and if you had children togather there probley much safer with out him around, hes a very sick minded person to go with a 15 year old child, count your blessings that hes nolonger a threat for you and your children if you have any<
 
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November 30, 2006, 12:07 am PST

11/29 Out of the Doghouse

Re: Corey
People! People!  Let's review the actual issue (there's only ONE):

He didn't tell her the truth. There was no meeting of the minds in their relationship.  It happens all the time.  It's a terrible thing to do in a relationship and I hope Corey chooses to conduct himself better in the future.  All the other stuff that folks are going on about is no relevant.  He's single, she's legal.  'Nuff said.

The fact that he's a firefighter, or a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker - who cares? Admittedly, it was not his finest hour.  But who among us has a life that could stand up to this kind of scrutiny?  All of the upset is more about our need to believe that firefighters are somehow "better" than the rest of us.

The fact that she is so much younger than he is - none of our business.  For whatever reason, they were attracted to each other.  How many of us have tried, and failed, to explain to our loved ones how we chose our lovers?

The rest of this message is for Corey:

I thought I recognized you - you don't live very far from me.  I think you are in a calendar I bought once.

Seriously, all of those rationalizations you made - what happens when people get under those bright lights at the studio?  Does your intelligence evaporate?  "She approached me", "She's legal", "She's very mature for her age" - ARRRRGH!!!!   You were not honest with her about the nature of your relationship(s).  Period.  No matter how mature she is, she can't make an informed decision about the relationship, and whether she wanted to be part of it.  If the best you can say about your conduct is "it's not criminal" - well, that's pretty pathetic.

What really bugged me was the "baggage" remark. A woman with what you call "baggage" (i.e. life experience) can spot you and your games a country mile away!  We would either send you packing or demand that you shape up.  Where do you think that older women GOT the baggage Corey?  From guys like YOU!!!!  By your actions in this relationship you, Corey, have created ANOTHER woman with baggage!

Some dating advice:  try dating women in their 40's.  They tend to be at the lovely stage of life where they've dealt with their baggage and are ready for a healthy, honest relationship!
 
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November 30, 2006, 1:16 am PST

you can survive this

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My husband cheated on me n March of this year.  It has been the most difficult obstacle to overcome.  We are in counseling, but I have no idea if I can ever get over this.  I have lost all confidence in myself.  I obssess over the betrayal.  Sometimes I can't turn off my mind from thinking about it.  Even certain music brings back very vivid, disgusting memories of that time period.  I am afraid to try to work out things and I'm afraid not to try.  I almost feel as though I have PTSD, because I did suffer an emotional breakdown.  Everyone seems to say that "once a cheater, always a cheater."  If I believe that, my marriage has no chance and I'm wasting time and effort for nothing.  I am starting to believe that things will never be the same.  I am truly afraid that if he cheats again, I won't survive it emotionaly or physically.  Along with that emotional breakdown I lost so much weight....from a size 12 to a size 0...40 pounds.  The stress is affecting me physically.  He says he's sorry.  But he's not as sorry as I think he should be.  If I had hurt him the way he hurt me, I'd spend the rest of my life making it up to him.  He tried hard to make it up to me for about 6 months, but now he says I have to get past it.  Sorry to rant...I feel like a shell of a person!

 Oh Honey!  Please be kinder to yourself and your poor little body.  You should not need this man in order to survive physically or emotionally.  You have to seriously consider why your sense of worth depends on this man.  It is not healthy.  What else is important to you?  Did you have low self esteem going into this relationship and think that you had to have your husband in order to validate you?  If there is nothing else about you that merits your existence then work on that first. 

 

My marriage has survived this very thing.  There are two important differences in my marriage though.  First, my husband really understood what he had done to me.  He got it and he didn't tell me to just get over it after six months.  Your husband needs to understand that sometimes it takes years to earn trust again after infidelity.  It took me years to trust again, but I can honestly say that I do.  My husband's affair was ten years ago though.  And while you are right it will never be the same again, that doesn't mean that it cannot be great.  The other important difference was that I knew I could survive with or without him because there was more to me than just my value as his wife and the mother of our children.

 

Finally, once you think that he gets it, and you are certain that you can survive without him, then you can make the decision to move on.  Yes you can.  It has only been four months for you and I can promise you that it will not always be this painful.  Remember to breathe deeply.  You can decide to forgive him and do so even when you don't feel forgiving.  You must stop obsessing over his affair and spending all of your time and energy dwelling on all of the dirty little details You will never be able to recover if you continue this and this only drags you through this pain over and over again. You cannot dwell on it enough to ever be able to understand what he did.  He was just immature, selfish and lacked impulse control-(see this was not about you and it wasn't about the other woman)  He can overcome these shortcomings given time and patience if he puts forth the effort.  You will survive this too Dear so please give yourself a break and treat yourself more kindly.    I am pulling for you and I believe that you are so much stronger than you give yourself credit for.

 
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November 30, 2006, 4:48 am PST

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My husband cheated on me n March of this year.  It has been the most difficult obstacle to overcome.  We are in counseling, but I have no idea if I can ever get over this.  I have lost all confidence in myself.  I obssess over the betrayal.  Sometimes I can't turn off my mind from thinking about it.  Even certain music brings back very vivid, disgusting memories of that time period.  I am afraid to try to work out things and I'm afraid not to try.  I almost feel as though I have PTSD, because I did suffer an emotional breakdown.  Everyone seems to say that "once a cheater, always a cheater."  If I believe that, my marriage has no chance and I'm wasting time and effort for nothing.  I am starting to believe that things will never be the same.  I am truly afraid that if he cheats again, I won't survive it emotionaly or physically.  Along with that emotional breakdown I lost so much weight....from a size 12 to a size 0...40 pounds.  The stress is affecting me physically.  He says he's sorry.  But he's not as sorry as I think he should be.  If I had hurt him the way he hurt me, I'd spend the rest of my life making it up to him.  He tried hard to make it up to me for about 6 months, but now he says I have to get past it.  Sorry to rant...I feel like a shell of a person!
Even as a male I can understand how you feel.  People often (possibly your husband included) do not realize that cheating affects you on more than one level.  They tend to not think of the damage to your self-esteem for one.  Something Dr. Phil has said in the past resonates with your situation.  That is that if the cheater truly wants to get the relationship back as it should be, he/she must be prepared and expect that it will take a long time for you to feel reassured enough to not have this affect you on a daily basis.  Six months isn't even close to enough time.  If the marriage is to be saved, he must be committed to spending the rest of his life making it up to you.  He isn't thinking or does not understand that you feel your self-worth and even your soul has been attacked by the person you most relied on to never to that.  At the risk of sounding too much like the doc, counseling should be a must for both of you.  If either of you are not willing to do that in a serious and dedicated fashion, your hope for eventual reconciliation is dim.  Come what may, you have to get to the point that you know IT IS NO YOUR FAULT and you do deserve better treatment.  Best wishes to you. 
 
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November 30, 2006, 4:51 am PST

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My husband cheated on me n March of this year.  It has been the most difficult obstacle to overcome.  We are in counseling, but I have no idea if I can ever get over this.  I have lost all confidence in myself.  I obssess over the betrayal.  Sometimes I can't turn off my mind from thinking about it.  Even certain music brings back very vivid, disgusting memories of that time period.  I am afraid to try to work out things and I'm afraid not to try.  I almost feel as though I have PTSD, because I did suffer an emotional breakdown.  Everyone seems to say that "once a cheater, always a cheater."  If I believe that, my marriage has no chance and I'm wasting time and effort for nothing.  I am starting to believe that things will never be the same.  I am truly afraid that if he cheats again, I won't survive it emotionaly or physically.  Along with that emotional breakdown I lost so much weight....from a size 12 to a size 0...40 pounds.  The stress is affecting me physically.  He says he's sorry.  But he's not as sorry as I think he should be.  If I had hurt him the way he hurt me, I'd spend the rest of my life making it up to him.  He tried hard to make it up to me for about 6 months, but now he says I have to get past it.  Sorry to rant...I feel like a shell of a person!
Please read the message from Canadiangirl as well.  She knows what she's talking about.  :)
 
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November 30, 2006, 5:15 am PST

Dyson and Rebecca

Why on earth, in the name of all that is good and holy, is she with him??  She's intelligent, pretty, seems like a nice person - talk about insecure.  I'm still trying to figure out what's so "attractive" about him.

 

I live by one simple philosophy:  if I have to wonder about what he's doing when I'm not with him, for ONE minute, it's not worth it.  Life is too short to worry that my husband is running around nailing everything with a pulse.  Have a little self-respect.  Any woman, or man, deserves better than that. 

 
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