Topic : 11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:25:13 pm
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It's holiday time again, and parents everywhere are figuring out how they're going to afford what's on their kids' Christmas list. Theresa is a single mother who is extremely stressed out because she says her 17-year-old daughter, Bailie, is spoiled. Bailie expects her mom to buy her new clothes, a computer, purses -- much more than Theresa can afford. Theresa says that Bailie even leaves notes around the house saying, "Clean my room!" How has Theresa, who's unemployed, been able to keep up with Bailie's demands? She reveals a dark secret that she's been keeping from everyone, including Bailie. And what does Bailie want most from her mom that she's never gotten? Then, 24-year-old Katie says that she's always been handed everything she wants, and if she doesn't get her way, she begs and whines to get her dad to foot the bill. He still pays for her gas, insurance, furniture and clothing. Now, Katie says her 4-year-old daughter is growing up to be just like her, and it's Grandpa’s fault. Plus, Dr. Phil and Robin have signed on to be the national spokespeople for Toys for Tots. To kick off this year's holiday toy drive, they head to Texas Motor Speedway to cheer on the UPS Store/Toys for Tots racing team. Talk about the show here.

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December 1, 2006, 12:57 pm PST

...as you sow, you shall reap....

 Ok, I may not have the quote exactly right, but.... sheesh.....comon parents, get a grip!!!

A lot of the blame lies at the feet of my generation and the one slightly older than I am.  In the sixties, we were all expected to "challenge" authority.  This had both positive and negative effects.  Somehow, arising from this was the braindead opinion that "children know what's best for them"......WHAT......what kind of idiocy is this?   Yet, I've heard it time and time again.  Maybe more than most because I was born and raised in Santa Cruz, California.....between San Francisco and Big Sur on the Monterey Bay.  The hotbed of  "progressive parenting".

I'm thankful that I was wise enough to put off parenthood until I was grown up enough to realize that children need guidance and limits.  I'm 54 years old and have a 17 year old son who is respectful and appreciative of the extras that his step-father is able to provide.   I'm just so disturbed at what I see in my son's peers and what they expect out of life.  I fear they have a very drastic realization of reality ahead of them.

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December 1, 2006, 3:03 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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I personally don't think that a teen is in need of those things. I think it's nice that little children would get a cute little toy in the holiday season...but I think teens are old enough to understand these things.
 Actually in our city, they have specially requested that some public consider gift items for a) babies and b) older children mainly because people tend to buy  items for the young children (toddler -10) only. There are many hardships suffered by all the family members when times are hard and I personally know many teens through the school system who are at an unfair disadvantage (ill parents mainly) and they certainly could use a gift.
 
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December 1, 2006, 3:08 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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Very sad post. I feel for you. You seem so misguided.

 

Kids at 19 are NOT kids. They are adults or at least should be. If they are acting like angry toddlers, than there's a big problem. They will make horrible employees and horrible spouses. And if they can't control their tempers, they'll make horrible parents, too.

 

Please don't liken how you CHOSE to raise your son to being a single parent. I know quite a few single moms (some were even young when they had their children) who are as tough or tougher than I am. Due to being a single parent, they understand the NEED to be firm, fair and consistent. Being that way not only makes THEIR lives easier, but it makes the lives of the children involved much easier and happier.

 

Whether a parent has the money should not be the question. We are an upper middle class family and we've raised our children to know that money and "stuff" are NOT as important as character, class, education, brains, compassion, etc. Our children have never ever received anything less than excellent w/ regard to school behavior. Parents always compliment us on how kind and well-behaved our children are. Am I proud of that? You're darned right I am proud! And hubby and I worked HARD to raise our children that way.

 

If parenting appears easy, than parents aren't doing it right. It's not supposed to be easy...giving into the child's every want, etc. What a disservice you have done to your son w/o even realizing it. Trust me, as kids go, he'll let you know how you failed him once he's much older. And hopefully you will be wise enough to accept much of the blame. You created him and his spoiled, damanding ways.  

 Fithomcat: you seem to read into others people posts alittle off the mark. Maybe you think you are helping but it seems like you are 'preaching' at people and I don't think you even understand them correctly all the time. Maybe you should 'read' their posts awhile longer before saying anything at all.
 
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December 1, 2006, 3:36 pm PST

Spoiled Children...When will it STOP??

As I watched the show, I just had to say out loud, "When will it STOP?"  MOST...(see the previous word) most single parents have sooo uch guilt about putting their children through a divorce and not seeing the non custodial parent enough, they try to MAKE UP for this by purchasing anything/everything their child wants....even IF it is something outrageous or put on ANOTHER credit card....it is called "KEEPING UP WITH THE JONES'S".  We NEED to put a STOP to the madness. 

 

  1. Start explaining/teaching your child, money does not grow on trees, and when you hit the ATM at a bank, that money is NOT GIVEN to you...explain this to them how making money, putting money in the bank = getting money out of the ATM..it is not FREE.
  2. Encourage your child at an early age, to be different and not wear the same items other kids do.  (WHY I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ALLLL SCHOOLS TO GO TO UNIFORMS)
  3. If you treat your teen as the first mother on the show did, when they hit the real world, they will not be able to function.  They will be in thousands of dollars of credit card debt by the time they are 21 with no way OUT! 
  4. These young adults will NOT be able to function in the "real adult world."  How will they perform tasks for their employers?  How will they work as a team member?  How will they function when Mom and Dad are gone...their own personal ATM?  When Grandma/Grandpa are gone? 
  5. It is soooo sad to go to the mall and hear how 9 and 10 yr olds are TALKING to the parents, DEMANDING of the parents, and the parents are the obedient puppy to these CHILDREN...what happened MOM????

I went to our local mall to get a CHILD'S NAME off of a giving tree.  I was SHOCKED at what 8 9 10 yr old boys and girls WANT for Christmas.  IPODS, X boxes, Laptops, Playstation games......HELLLLLLO????  No wonder parents are at their wits end when they are in a poverty state, if the children are asking for these types of items from a stranger off of a giving tree.

 

We need to STOP the madness NOW!!!  We need to TEACH our children credit card debt is not a way of living to get THINGS!  We need to have tv, radio, and actors to stop feeding the frenzie of MATERIAL THINGS to our children.  We need to step up to the plate and let them know, we want things to STOP going in this direction.  We need non custodial parents to be REAL PARENTS....you help make them, you need to help support them. 

 

Toys for TOTS is a super way of helping out for the needy in your area.  My youngest daughter, age 25 is a Marine and has been involved in this for the past 6 years.  GIVE GIVE GIVE...that is what the true meaning of Christmas is allllll about....REMEMBER???

 

 
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December 1, 2006, 4:59 pm PST

You got it right!

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 Cool! My dad used to take my to the grocery store w/him. He'd go down the list and tell me an item and asked me to find the best price/ value. For each item I was sucessful I'd get ten cents. I learned math, frugality and value. Then if I wanted a soda or candy i had what i earned.

  Sometimes he'd ask if I wasn't gonna get my soda 'cause I'd leave the store without one...I'd tell him "yes, I want a soda but the machine @ the garage on the way home is way cheaper than the store" LOL! You reap what you sow!

Thank you for a reasonable and informative personal life post! I couldn't agree more.

My daughter is only 3 1/2 but the commercialism has started. We are already teaching her that if she wants something extra, she has to earn it. As she grows up, we want to continue to teach her how money works and how she can earn and save for the things she wants.

 

Your story about the kids collecting recycables was wonderful! It proves how resourceful they can be when they are not handed everything and what pride they can gain from it.

 
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December 1, 2006, 7:38 pm PST

Parents can be poor examples.

      I have seen some unappreciative responses to Christmas gifts from parents of the children in community settings. First as a single parent, our resources are just as stretched as anyone else's and at Christmas there are many areas in our children's lives asking for contributions....school's want fund-raising, donations; ditto for recreation clubs; Christmas Wish funds, etc.  Its all we can do sometimes to have enough to spread around.

     So once at the Christmas Party for my daughter's Gymnastic Club - we were all asked to bring some food and a $5 -limit gift to exchange with the other children.  Naturally we cheerfully did so but we were standing beside the parents and child who had received our gift and the parents were instantly complaining how cheap it was when a) we had stuck to the limit like we were supposed to and b) my daughter had the same toy and it was really fun to play with.  I was shocked that the parents so openly complained about the gift and in front of their child too - what sort of life lesson did that child receive that day?!!   Actually, I couldn't help it but I stepped over to them and nicely explained how the toy worked and told them it was popular with the kids we knew.  They sort of looked like they were searching for words when I turned around and walked off.  But I still think they took the joy out of that moment for their own child.
 
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December 1, 2006, 9:45 pm PST

Shock to the System

My parents never set boundaries for me when I was a kid and I could get just about whatever I wanted. They never really said "no" and meant it. Whenever they ever said "no," I could always get them to do what I wanted anyway, so when they said "no," it actually meant "not right now, but if you bug me enough... then yes." Then when I grew up I had a hard time because the world didn't work the way I had been so used to. It was a huge shock to my system. I felt like I had walked into this foreign culture where all of societies rules were completely different than I had ever know before. I felt like everyone had a one-up on me because I felt that they knew things that I didn't. I felt like that because they had learned all this stuff when they were little and now they knew it backwards, forwards, top to bottom, and inside-out and knew it so well that they took it for granted. And then there was me who was struggling so hard to learn all this stuff that was so foreign and completely unknown to me and so second nature to them. I felt like they got something as kids that I never got and that I missed out on. I wish my parents had set boudaries for me as a kid instead of letting me get away with everything and giving me whatever I wanted. It would have made for a much easier and smoother transition into adulthood for me.

 
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December 2, 2006, 7:33 am PST

Au contraire, that is good advice

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 That is the worst advice I have read so far. that is the last thing a kid needs  to know about..All you have to do is be a parent and let them know what the word no means!!!!!!!!!!!
I think children should be aware of what it costs to maintain a household. It doesn't hurt their little psyches
 
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December 2, 2006, 7:35 am PST

U N B E L I E V A B L E!!

It saddened me to see that during the show neither the parents or spoiled children showed any emotion or accountability for themselves or their situation(s).  My perception is they don't know how to nurture and love themselves hence, their children without the benefit of money and material possessions. 

 

Parents, you are teaching your children that ''things" are more important than a life foundation built on morals, responsibility and social skills.  The the more you do for your children, they less they will, and eventually can do for themselves. Parents and Children lean to love yourseves and your parents, if you need something, learn, with the guidance of your parent(s) to provide it for yourself.  If you want something, think about it and make a goal of obtaining it.  You would be surprised how your choices may change.

 

I was fortunate to be the 5th in a family of 10 children, my parents divorced when I was 12.  I learned through some hardship and early family responsibility that love and family prevail over any material possession.   I am grateful to be who I am today.

 

It's not too late for you,  your children and grandchildren and future generations.  Stop the madness, get help now, learn how to communicate and love without the leverage of  money and material 'stuff' to show you love and care for each other.  

 

 
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December 2, 2006, 9:16 am PST

You said two things

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As I watched the show, I just had to say out loud, "When will it STOP?"  MOST...(see the previous word) most single parents have sooo uch guilt about putting their children through a divorce and not seeing the non custodial parent enough, they try to MAKE UP for this by purchasing anything/everything their child wants....even IF it is something outrageous or put on ANOTHER credit card....it is called "KEEPING UP WITH THE JONES'S".  We NEED to put a STOP to the madness. 

 

  1. Start explaining/teaching your child, money does not grow on trees, and when you hit the ATM at a bank, that money is NOT GIVEN to you...explain this to them how making money, putting money in the bank = getting money out of the ATM..it is not FREE.
  2. Encourage your child at an early age, to be different and not wear the same items other kids do.  (WHY I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ALLLL SCHOOLS TO GO TO UNIFORMS)
  3. If you treat your teen as the first mother on the show did, when they hit the real world, they will not be able to function.  They will be in thousands of dollars of credit card debt by the time they are 21 with no way OUT! 
  4. These young adults will NOT be able to function in the "real adult world."  How will they perform tasks for their employers?  How will they work as a team member?  How will they function when Mom and Dad are gone...their own personal ATM?  When Grandma/Grandpa are gone? 
  5. It is soooo sad to go to the mall and hear how 9 and 10 yr olds are TALKING to the parents, DEMANDING of the parents, and the parents are the obedient puppy to these CHILDREN...what happened MOM????

I went to our local mall to get a CHILD'S NAME off of a giving tree.  I was SHOCKED at what 8 9 10 yr old boys and girls WANT for Christmas.  IPODS, X boxes, Laptops, Playstation games......HELLLLLLO????  No wonder parents are at their wits end when they are in a poverty state, if the children are asking for these types of items from a stranger off of a giving tree.

 

We need to STOP the madness NOW!!!  We need to TEACH our children credit card debt is not a way of living to get THINGS!  We need to have tv, radio, and actors to stop feeding the frenzie of MATERIAL THINGS to our children.  We need to step up to the plate and let them know, we want things to STOP going in this direction.  We need non custodial parents to be REAL PARENTS....you help make them, you need to help support them. 

 

Toys for TOTS is a super way of helping out for the needy in your area.  My youngest daughter, age 25 is a Marine and has been involved in this for the past 6 years.  GIVE GIVE GIVE...that is what the true meaning of Christmas is allllll about....REMEMBER???

 

I , too, took a tag off the mall tree and saw what the kids wanted. I could not afford to give all my grandchildren those things so I certainly would not buy them for strangers. I put the tag back on the tree.

 

Last Christmas my group, and I, helped with the project. The toys were in bags with the tags attached. We were to group them by families so they could be delivered. Some people did buy Nintendoes and such games, ten-speed bicycles, I-pods, and other expensive toys. Some child, from the same family, close to the same age, did not get such expensive toys.

 

I think school uniforms is a good idea, also. I think we are a materialistic society and things have become more important than people or values.

 

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