Topic : 11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:25:13 pm
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It's holiday time again, and parents everywhere are figuring out how they're going to afford what's on their kids' Christmas list. Theresa is a single mother who is extremely stressed out because she says her 17-year-old daughter, Bailie, is spoiled. Bailie expects her mom to buy her new clothes, a computer, purses -- much more than Theresa can afford. Theresa says that Bailie even leaves notes around the house saying, "Clean my room!" How has Theresa, who's unemployed, been able to keep up with Bailie's demands? She reveals a dark secret that she's been keeping from everyone, including Bailie. And what does Bailie want most from her mom that she's never gotten? Then, 24-year-old Katie says that she's always been handed everything she wants, and if she doesn't get her way, she begs and whines to get her dad to foot the bill. He still pays for her gas, insurance, furniture and clothing. Now, Katie says her 4-year-old daughter is growing up to be just like her, and it's Grandpa’s fault. Plus, Dr. Phil and Robin have signed on to be the national spokespeople for Toys for Tots. To kick off this year's holiday toy drive, they head to Texas Motor Speedway to cheer on the UPS Store/Toys for Tots racing team. Talk about the show here.

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November 30, 2006, 2:45 pm PST

I do hope you change

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What I don't understand is your upset that your Dad spoils your daughter, then open your eyes and quit teaching her that it's o.k. by continuing to do it to your father by having him pay your bills, obviously you have money coming in you admitted that so instead of teaching your daughter it's o.k. to have other people pay for thing for you teach her how to be responsible by doing it yourself.  I don't think your a bad person and I'm sure your loving but get some help.  I have a 4 month old daughter, and I can't imagine her being spoiled I worked my butt off through out my whole life, which makes it harder to watch people like you take advantage of things so easily.
I hope you change not only for the sake of your daughters future & the sake of your relationship with your family. I bet  other family members have  noticed the selfish behavior you have displayed towards your parents. I'm sure deep down you are a good person, but you need to realize good people do not manipulate the people they are suppose to love the most.
 
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November 30, 2006, 2:50 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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I was raised to work hard, and earn what I want in life. My husband and I raised our children to do the same. However, my 28 year old daughter has married a man who is 37 and his mother still completely supports him.  She bought him a house, a car, furniture, several big boy toys, and I could go on and on.  NO he does not work.  He has been with my daughter for 3 years and has not earned a dime.  He went to school to become a machanic, and graduated 3 months ago.   His mother paid for that as well.  He has yet to find a job.  Talk about spoiled and entitled.  If I say a word to my daughter about his work ethic, she will never talk to me again, and keep me from seeing my granddaughter.  Sad. Oh yes, my daugther works full time, and does pretty much everything around the house as well.  He does play well with my granddaughter.  NO he is not her biological father, but she calls him daddy.  How do I deal with this situation without anlienating my daugher????

I agree with the other person who responded to your post.  There is not much you can do, sorry to say.  Your daughter for some reason is in love with this guy, and no matter how old we are, we can all be silly when we're in love.  If you nag her or degrade her significant other, she will only get defensive.  The positive side to this story is the boyfriend's mother sounds like she'll be footing their bills, not you.  Go ahead and let this woman be stupid.  She'll only have herself to blame one day.

 

This doesn't mean you can't casually, some time when you're alone with your daughter, bring up her situation in conversation.  Ask her how she's doing, if she feels stressed, why she feels stressed, etc.  She'll probably only come up with excuses for her boyfriend being a lazy bum, but talking casually with her about things might eventually get her to realize how foolish she's being.

 

I had a friend who was in a very similar situation to your daughter.  I will admit I was not tactful with my friend.  Granted, you have more to lose if your daughter stops talking to you, so I don't suggest you be as abrupt as I was with my friend.  I have known this friend since we were 8-years old, and both of us have always been high achievers.  She busted her butt going to school for a pharmacy degree, worked as a waitress to pay her tuition, and after five years got a great job that pays $100,000+ per year.  Her boyfriend was with her for a little over 10 years, and all those years, no matter how much she struggled and even after she landed her well-deserved dream job, she supported him.  She did all the housework (because he said "that's woman's work!"), sent him to school for degrees he never ended up earning, and let him sit around doing nothing.  I am lucky this friend still talks to me after some of the things I said to her.  So again, this is why you should not be too confrontational with your daughter.  What ended up helping my friend was therapy.  This boyfriend of hers made her feel so crappy about herself that she ended up with an eating disorder.  In a way, that was a good thing, or else she never would have seen a therapist.  The therapist, and not me, made her realize she had to break up with this loser and move on.  She did just that, and she's been single and very happy, with her own beautiful house, for almost two years.  I could not be more proud of her.

 

The moral of this story is that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.  Give your daughter time, and she will probably realize the error of her ways.  It may come at a certain cost, like it did to my friend, but it's better that than her being tied down with this guy for the rest of her life.

 

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November 30, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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 Yup, you are right, keep my mouth shut and stay out of it, and this is what we have tried to do over the last 3 years.  I warned her initially that his behavior and patterns in life were not conducive to someone with a strong work ethic and integrity. However, by all indications and what other's say about those who do what he is doing  this man/child that is my daughters husband, has some serious problems. 

I will do as you have suggested, and love my daughter and granddaughter, be here for her if her world falls apart, but it sure is hard to have any respect for a man who does not support himself.

I try not to judge people, however, those who have integrity and a hard work ethic, don't mooch off of others. This person has neither of this characteristics, and I believe it will trickle down into how he treats my daughter and granddaughter.  That scares me.

It will trickle down, you have a right to be worried.
 
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November 30, 2006, 3:00 pm PST

lost grandkids

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Katie's daughter is merely following in her footsteps. If it bothers Katie so bloomin' much, why doesn't she break the cycle by getting off the gravy train? 

My daughter was spoiled by her grandmother, aunt, and me.  She grew up minipulating the three of us.  My mother and Sister are now dead.  She cannot go between two or three of us to get what she wants.  There is only me and now she doesn't come around and I cannot see my 4 grandkids.  Putting your foot down with a minipulating person that makes it sound like she grew up in a Soap Opera atmosphere, means not seeing how your grandkids grow up. 
 
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November 30, 2006, 3:01 pm PST

A Hard Situation

Can anyone help me with a new approach to this? 

 

My husband has a 15 year old daughter that lives 5 states away.  He's never really been a big part of her life, yet he spoiles her so much!  He makes a decent living so he thinks because he makes enough money he can spoil her as much as he wants.  For example, whenever she wants money she calls him and he'll send her a check down the next day.  I'm not talking about $20, I'm talking $50-$150 at least once a month.  I've told him this is not ok with me and to please cut back on this.  The other day I was going through our checks and found that he had sent her a check a couple weeks ago behind my back.  I was furious!  I confronted him and he said he wouldn't do it again and that he was sorry.   This Christmas he's buying her a car, that we really don't have the money for because we're trying to buy a house.  I've told him I'm willing to pay a certain reasonable amount out of our savings and thats it.  He thinks it's not enough, but trust me it is.  It's more than $4000 but less than 6.    The thing is, my husband talks to his daughter for maybe 15 minutes a month.  I just don't understand why he's pouring all his money into stuff for her when they have pretty much a non-existing relationship.  I know it's his daughter and all but does anyone think that paying child support every month and only buying presents for birthdays and Christmas is enough.  I've told him I thought he was parenting out of guilt,  which just led to an argument. It's especially hard for me to keep my mouth shut about this situation recently because I'm getting sick of it.  Just today I told him we need to get groceries and he threw a fit over spending money on them.  I just don't understand why he will spend so much on his daughter but not at home, on stuff we really need.  I'm feeling like I'm not one of his highest priorities which makes me wonder why we're still together.  Does anyone have any advice on how else I can bring up this subject with him without coming off mean?

 
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November 30, 2006, 3:06 pm PST

spoil

  Me I was not spoil as a teenagers I work part time to get what i want. Those type of teenagers who are spoil would espect they man to spoil them in the futur like babies.
 

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November 30, 2006, 3:25 pm PST

spoiled but not entitled

i would just like to say there is a difference between being spoiled and having a feeling of entitlement. i was spoiled as a child and my daughter is spoiled as well. BUT i do not feel like i am entitled to the things i have received. if i got things i wanted great, if there were time i didnt that was fine too. parents can spoil their children, the problem arises when children throw fits and temper tantrums if they dont get things they want. there were many times when i was a child that i didnt get what i wanted or didnt get to do what i wanted, i didnt throw a fit, i knew if i did my parents would punish me. children need to know their are consequences when they don't behave as they should. they shouln't be able to throw a fit and have their parents give in. children need boundaries. the guests on todays show are not doing their children/grandchildren any favours- they cant throw a fit in the real world and always get what they want.
 
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November 30, 2006, 3:26 pm PST

I do the spoil my child

How do you stop? I came from nothing and my pain from having nothing .
 
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November 30, 2006, 3:33 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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How do you stop? I came from nothing and my pain from having nothing .
I came from nothing but I know that having "stuff" doesn't ease that pain. And I know spoiling a child will CAUSE them a different kind of pain.
 
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November 30, 2006, 3:40 pm PST

Dr. Phil oopsed?

Doc, I really admire your work for the most part, you pretty much 'keep it real'. I watched a portion of the 'Grandfather spoiling the Granddaughter' show today and I think that you hit the nail on the head about the Mom (the daughter) however, I think you oopsed on the Grand dad. It's natural, as you say, for the grandfather to spoil the grandchild to some degree. The problem here is this man takes it too far! He's actually causing problems in the raising of the daughter. You did mention early on that he needs to respect the mothers decisions but you really let him off too easy. What he's doing is actually taking away the mothers opportunity to 'do' for her daughter. In other words, the grand daughter has soo much 'stuff' the mother rightfully so probably ALLWAYS says no to the childs requests for 'stuff'. The child will grow up thinking that mommy didn't love her (she ALLWAYS said no!) and that grandpa was the one who really loved her (he's not). He needs to back off as he's still capable (as a grandparent) to totally mess this child up.

 

Back off grandpa!

 

Thanks,

Chris

 

 

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