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Topic : 11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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Created on : Tuesday, November 21, 2006, 02:25:13 pm
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It's holiday time again, and parents everywhere are figuring out how they're going to afford what's on their kids' Christmas list. Theresa is a single mother who is extremely stressed out because she says her 17-year-old daughter, Bailie, is spoiled. Bailie expects her mom to buy her new clothes, a computer, purses -- much more than Theresa can afford. Theresa says that Bailie even leaves notes around the house saying, "Clean my room!" How has Theresa, who's unemployed, been able to keep up with Bailie's demands? She reveals a dark secret that she's been keeping from everyone, including Bailie. And what does Bailie want most from her mom that she's never gotten? Then, 24-year-old Katie says that she's always been handed everything she wants, and if she doesn't get her way, she begs and whines to get her dad to foot the bill. He still pays for her gas, insurance, furniture and clothing. Now, Katie says her 4-year-old daughter is growing up to be just like her, and it's Grandpa’s fault. Plus, Dr. Phil and Robin have signed on to be the national spokespeople for Toys for Tots. To kick off this year's holiday toy drive, they head to Texas Motor Speedway to cheer on the UPS Store/Toys for Tots racing team. Talk about the show here.

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November 30, 2006, 6:58 pm PST

Teens and Christmas

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While I am happy that Dr. Phil and Robin address the need for Toys for Tots, I would also like to see mention of Toys for Teens, an offshoot of the Toys for Tots - Pleas for toys for children are everywhere we turn during the holidays and you see lots of kid-type toys piled high - I think there has to be a greater need for decent Christmas gifts for the harder to buy for teenagers whose friends are all getting neat but expensive electronic gadgets that their parents just cannot afford. 

Any person can open a phone book and contact a local charity. If that charity isn't what a person likes, they can get a referral to another one.

 

Teens are definitely difficult to buy for, but I still wouldn't buy expensive electronic gifts for them (I don't buy it for my two children). DVD's and DVD players (now quite inexpensive), books, stationary, fun pillows, CD's and personal CD players and clothing make great gifts. Todays teens shouldn't have so many electronic gadgets; they are spending too much time in the house in front of screens and not enough time involved in healthier activities. It will not KILL a teen if s/he doesn't live as the Jones w/ all the latest "stuff." It will, though, make them stronger and give them the desire to better their situations as they age.

 

Hopefully, those teens old enough to hold jobs and help out their famiies, are doing so. Teens can give back just as well as adults can.

 
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November 30, 2006, 7:11 pm PST

Sounds like my mom!

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My kids pulled the shopping ads from they Thanksgiving paper and began to circle what they want.  2 of them came to the kitchen and asked - hey mom, we shouldn't circle video games cause you'll never buy them, right?

We've never bought a game system and never will.  The kids know it, but they ask every year and we let them know we haven't changed our minds. 

 

This is our personal decision, we are confident in ourselves and our decision, so we'll stick to it.

 
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November 30, 2006, 7:12 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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I was raised to work hard, and earn what I want in life. My husband and I raised our children to do the same. However, my 28 year old daughter has married a man who is 37 and his mother still completely supports him.  She bought him a house, a car, furniture, several big boy toys, and I could go on and on.  NO he does not work.  He has been with my daughter for 3 years and has not earned a dime.  He went to school to become a machanic, and graduated 3 months ago.   His mother paid for that as well.  He has yet to find a job.  Talk about spoiled and entitled.  If I say a word to my daughter about his work ethic, she will never talk to me again, and keep me from seeing my granddaughter.  Sad. Oh yes, my daugther works full time, and does pretty much everything around the house as well.  He does play well with my granddaughter.  NO he is not her biological father, but she calls him daddy.  How do I deal with this situation without anlienating my daugher????

Is it possible your Son-in-Law has depression? In the beginning of my marriage I suffered a horrid bout of depression for about a year and I didn't work, I barely left the house. I'm sure some people judged me for it. (This was 7 years ago, I have since dealt with my depression and worked up until the middle of my pregnancy about 3 years ago.)

Your daughter might be being protective of him for something like this.

If your daughter is happy and your granddaughter is happy then just leave it be. I know you mean well, but speaking as a young woman myself, I hate it when my parent stick their nose in my business. I HATE IT.
 
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November 30, 2006, 7:19 pm PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

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My kids pulled the shopping ads from they Thanksgiving paper and began to circle what they want.  2 of them came to the kitchen and asked - hey mom, we shouldn't circle video games cause you'll never buy them, right?

We've never bought a game system and never will.  The kids know it, but they ask every year and we let them know we haven't changed our minds. 

 

This is our personal decision, we are confident in ourselves and our decision, so we'll stick to it.

Is it because they are expensive?
 
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November 30, 2006, 7:24 pm PST

Thanks, Dr. Phil!!!

I really do appreciate Dr. Phil’s willingness to say up front what percentage of one’s donation for his campaign- ‘Toys for Tots’- actually goes for that purpose, instead of for ‘administrative fees’ and such! Makes it MUCH easier to choose who you make those donations to!

Merry Christmas,

Brenda

 
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November 30, 2006, 7:28 pm PST

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Well  most kids are spoiled.  They get  everything they want and the parents  don't say no.  If they do say no,  it don't take long for them to  say fine yes you can get it.   No matter how a child acts  when  a parent  says no.   The parent should stick with what they say,   there child will be ok and get over it!!  Kids  have to grow up knowing they can't get whatever they want  all the time!  Thats life!  
 

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November 30, 2006, 8:46 pm PST

Toys for Tots

I'm a teacher and I reallly applaud the efforts the Dr. Phil show is taking to help make the holidays a little more joyous for underprivileged kids.  I would also like to add to what Robin was saying about setting the tone for the holidays.

 

I teach in a school where over 50% of our population comes from some degree of poverty.  We brace ourselves each year for the behavior issues we know we're going to have at the holiday times.  People who have never been in a school like mine may brush this off as kids being excited, preparing for the break and in general need of a vacation.

 

However, what is often going on is an extension from their home lives.  We all know that the holidays can be an incredibly stressful time.  Now imagine that you have to make a decision between paying your electric bill or buying food for your family.  It has got to be very difficult for a parent to know that they can't possibly buy a simple gift for their kids.  I often wonder how these parents explain Santa to the really young ones.  And how must the children feel when they see other kids playing with new toys or even trying on the socks that their old aunt sent them.

 

There is also an issue of being off from school for two weeks.  For many of our students, the free breakfast and lunch they receive at school are their only meals.  Without school, they have nothing to eat.

 

This all contributes to a powder keg of anxiety and stress in their households.  Children (and many adults) don't know how to deal with that kind of pressure, so they act out.  This doesn't make it acceptable and they certainly don't get away with it, but I (and my colleagues) try to remain empathetic, talk to the kids and give them a chance to make a better choice.

 

Toys for Tots is an exceptional program that brings a little joy to the lives of kids whose days are spent wondering about things that children shouldn't even know to worry about.  I encourage everyone to reach out this Christmas season and help someone. 

 

My school donates holiday food to many of our families--the assistant principals are even the ones who deliver it!  We also collect toys, games, books and clothing to donate to those families in need.  Sometimes all it takes is a small gesture to improve another life.

 

I tell my students a story about how living life is like throwing a pebble in a pond (no, it's not an original story from me).  I explain that every action we take sends out ripples and it's our choice whether we will send out a gentle ripple or a tidal wave.  Before making decisions I believe we should think about the frog sitting on the lily pad in the middle of that pond.  Through our actions we can choose to either sink him with a tidal wave or provide him with a nice, gentle ride.  So I'm going to end this post with the words from a poster I made and hung right next to my door in my classroom. . . .

 

. . . .Remember the frog.

 

Happy Holidays to everyone!

Michelle

 
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November 30, 2006, 11:01 pm PST

to much business

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Kids today need to be sat down at the kitchen table around the time they turn 8 and let in on the family finances.

This is what parents got paid, this is all the bills, do the subtraction and let the little brats know that there is only so much to go around.

 

 That is the worst advice I have read so far. that is the last thing a kid needs  to know about..All you have to do is be a parent and let them know what the word no means!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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December 1, 2006, 12:25 am PST

11/30 Spoiled and Entitled

Well, for all those spoiled brats....  Money does not grow in trees. It's very hard for us parents to bring food to the table and to put a roof over our children's head for the first 18 years of their life, or even longer.  I am a 52 yr old mother of a 19 year old and I have spoiled her as much as I have been able to.  She is my only child and I want to give her everything I did't have, and more.  But I would never go out and sell my body or shop lift to give her what I don't have.  My daugher knows that when I say no, I mean NO.  She understands that I can't afford what she wants or needs, if there's no extra money after the bills have been paid. 

For those parents who don't want to or know how to say no when it's not possible.... Just say NO!!! - It's more important to give your children values and teach them how to become productive and successful adults.  We can not let our children take over our role as parents or control us.  Our children are intelligent people, They are full of energy, but they don't know what to do with it..... Let's show them how to set goals and dreams.  Let's teach them how to love and respect themselves and others.  Some times using taugh love it's the only way.   We are supossed to be strong and inforse rules for them, because they need them.  Whithout that, they get lost, and they can not find their way.  We are thier guides until they can think for themselves and can make their own desitions.  We are responsible for what our children become as adults.  Oh yes, and they will come back later to tell us,  "Thank you" or "It was your fault"

I am very proud of myself as a mother.  I know have done a good job at raising my daughter.  There is nothing she does not share with me or advice she does not ask of me before she makes an important desition.  She loves me and respects me, and tells me that I'm her heroe .  I have always made sure that I am her mother first and when she needs me, I am her best friend.  Good luck to all those parents and children that are having difficulties at home.

 

God Bless

CB

 
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December 1, 2006, 4:37 am PST

Have To Agree

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bills and finances are wayyyyy over there heads, parents just need to learn to say this [NO and if you need to explain what no means it means you cant have that or it means you cant do that, it isnt hard to tell a child no and dr phil was 100% correct they do get over it a child isnt goin to stop loving you for telling them no when you cant afford something they want, the only time a child should be allowed to join in on the finance talks is when they get old enough to work and want to help you out, then it would be proper to allow them to sit in
Parents saying no is not a form of abuse.  Children are told "no" for more reasons than just the budget.  Including children in the budget process is not the way.  People seem to always want to treat children like the small adults they aren't.  It's fine to make them familiar with the concept of a budget, but the details are another matter.  As you said, once they are adults themselves there may be occasion to let them in on the overall financial situation.  Most of us want to help our parents as we get older, but even then I don't need details.  As children though, their brains have not developed enough to assimilate all this and they are not mature enough to be that interested. 
 
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