Topic : Is This Normal?

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Your partner asked you to do WHAT? Some things are taboo. Some things are common but just not discussed. Where does your sex life fit in?

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July 21, 2008, 7:26 pm PDT

wen i have sex........during nd after i bleed! does n e 1 kno wat that means?

 
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July 21, 2008, 7:31 pm PDT

i think u should find out wat gets him hot nd go from there

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I have been married two years. My husband is affectionate. Loves to hold hands, put his arm around me etc...But when it comes to long passionate kisses and sex...he is very timid. We have averaged sex appx once a week since getting married however it was like scheduled sex, the same day everyweek, early morning etc...If  I tried to initiate sex inbetween the one day a week I get eye rolling like a kid, hissing, and remarks like dont touch me, I am not in the mood....When I try to kiss him passionately he withdraws from the kiss before I do..Now I am noticing that our sex is turning into every two weeks and right now it has been 3 weeks, the longest ever. He does not have any physical problem. If I can get past his "I'm not in the mood" everything works perfect. He says he is very happy and loves me. He can not imagine life without me. I know he is not cheating...there are no signs of cheating here. But if he loves me, why can he not see how hurt I am by this behavior and feeling of worry? I have never been in a realtionship where the man is not in the mood alot. He does drink alot of beer and sometimes prefers to sit in bed and do this while watching TV then to put it down and make love to me instead...I do not know what to do, he will not go to counseling and I am taking this extremely personal. I am attractive and fit and even his male peers constantly tell him how lucky he is to have me..They wish they could have me, but my husband does and pushes me away constantly. ANY ADVICE?

 
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July 30, 2008, 6:44 am PDT

For my husband to fantasize about my little sister?

After a long day at work last night I came home to find a picture of my 18 year old sister in the bathroom. When I saw it I kiddingly told my husband, "This is disturbing to find my sister's picture in the bathroom." But he didn't laugh and suddenly admitted that he had masturbated to her picture. I was so shocked and didn't know what to say so I stayed in our room last night without really talking to him about it. We've been married for five years and we've been together for a total of ten years. I know it's normal for guys to masturbate and to fantasize, but fantasizing about my own sister, who is like 12 years younger than he is? I don't know what to do. It's hard for me to look at him right now because I'm so disgusted. What do you think?
 
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July 30, 2008, 11:07 pm PDT

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After a long day at work last night I came home to find a picture of my 18 year old sister in the bathroom. When I saw it I kiddingly told my husband, "This is disturbing to find my sister's picture in the bathroom." But he didn't laugh and suddenly admitted that he had masturbated to her picture. I was so shocked and didn't know what to say so I stayed in our room last night without really talking to him about it. We've been married for five years and we've been together for a total of ten years. I know it's normal for guys to masturbate and to fantasize, but fantasizing about my own sister, who is like 12 years younger than he is? I don't know what to do. It's hard for me to look at him right now because I'm so disgusted. What do you think?
I think that you have a serious issue on your hands to say the least.

I do want to say that it's positive that he admitted his wrong doing right away though...that is a good sign. I think that it's best for couples to start therapy before problems get so intense and so volatile that people are thinking of leaving, or have left already.

Tell him that you want to enter couples therapy. Even though HE is the one who is in the wrong it would probably be more enticing to him than for you to tell him that HE needs to enter therapy. Also...therapy isn't just for people who are "wrong" or have problems. You clearly have an issue in your marriage now...even though it's not your doing, you are still stuck with an "issue"...go now before this gets worse than it already is.

I really DO think that it's GOOD that he admitted it right away rather than hiding it from you. It's not good that he did it, but he could have just lied...he could have just made up some mundane lie and you'd have been none the wiser. That shows he does have a need to be open and honest with you. If he has a compulsion, or if he has feelings for your sister, or if this was nothing more than REALLY bad judgment on his part...it still needs to be addressed, and I PERSONALLY think that addressing it with a therapist might be the best road for both of you.

Good luck...I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.

(BTW, if this picture of your sister is when she was really young, for me, all bets would be off. Masturbating to any picture of a young teen or child is a sign of something MORE than what you can handle...what anyone can handle.)
 
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August 1, 2008, 6:42 pm PDT

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I think that you have a serious issue on your hands to say the least.

I do want to say that it's positive that he admitted his wrong doing right away though...that is a good sign. I think that it's best for couples to start therapy before problems get so intense and so volatile that people are thinking of leaving, or have left already.

Tell him that you want to enter couples therapy. Even though HE is the one who is in the wrong it would probably be more enticing to him than for you to tell him that HE needs to enter therapy. Also...therapy isn't just for people who are "wrong" or have problems. You clearly have an issue in your marriage now...even though it's not your doing, you are still stuck with an "issue"...go now before this gets worse than it already is.

I really DO think that it's GOOD that he admitted it right away rather than hiding it from you. It's not good that he did it, but he could have just lied...he could have just made up some mundane lie and you'd have been none the wiser. That shows he does have a need to be open and honest with you. If he has a compulsion, or if he has feelings for your sister, or if this was nothing more than REALLY bad judgment on his part...it still needs to be addressed, and I PERSONALLY think that addressing it with a therapist might be the best road for both of you.

Good luck...I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.

(BTW, if this picture of your sister is when she was really young, for me, all bets would be off. Masturbating to any picture of a young teen or child is a sign of something MORE than what you can handle...what anyone can handle.)

Wow you're brining out the canons in order to kill a mosquito. Though the trust issue has to be dealt with and it may indeed require some counseling. But overall you are way overreacting. This is not some wierdo or atyppical behaviour, this is in fact common regular normal behaviour of men and indeed women.

 

Well okay most don't run off to the bathroom with a picture of their wifes younger sister but still. We all fantasize, and even if you don't want to admit it we all fantasize about people we know sometimes. Haven't you ever thought about a friend or a friends friend, neighbour, gym teacher or whomever that he was cute and what you'd like to do to him/her or he/she'd do to you?

 

It is even so that during sex many fantasize about others not because they don't love their partner or don't find them sexy but because in order to get an orgasm we need to focus o n ourselves for a little while so that we can achieve the state needed to achieve orgasm (it can be done if you keep focussing on your partner it just becomes (a lot) harder)

 

also this was a picture of her 18 year old sister nothing wierd about the age difference their either. I mean did you think all those porn sites are paid for just by lonely men and curious teens?

 

So okay it might be a scary thought of him doing that to her sister and their might be an issue of trust but it is not as big as you proclaim it to be.

 
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August 2, 2008, 12:34 am PDT

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Wow you're brining out the canons in order to kill a mosquito. Though the trust issue has to be dealt with and it may indeed require some counseling. But overall you are way overreacting. This is not some wierdo or atyppical behaviour, this is in fact common regular normal behaviour of men and indeed women.

 

Well okay most don't run off to the bathroom with a picture of their wifes younger sister but still. We all fantasize, and even if you don't want to admit it we all fantasize about people we know sometimes. Haven't you ever thought about a friend or a friends friend, neighbour, gym teacher or whomever that he was cute and what you'd like to do to him/her or he/she'd do to you?

 

It is even so that during sex many fantasize about others not because they don't love their partner or don't find them sexy but because in order to get an orgasm we need to focus o n ourselves for a little while so that we can achieve the state needed to achieve orgasm (it can be done if you keep focussing on your partner it just becomes (a lot) harder)

 

also this was a picture of her 18 year old sister nothing wierd about the age difference their either. I mean did you think all those porn sites are paid for just by lonely men and curious teens?

 

So okay it might be a scary thought of him doing that to her sister and their might be an issue of trust but it is not as big as you proclaim it to be.

"Wow you're brining out the canons in order to kill a mosquito."

I think "mosquito" is subjective. One persons mosquito is another persons monster. If I found my husband looking at porn I'd ask if he found anything good. If my SIL found my brother doing that she's probably leave him. Subjective.

I also believe in preventative measures. Why wait for this to fester into a hugely untouchable thing?

Is masturbation normal? Hell yes. I'm all for it. I think it's extremely healthy if not done to excess. (Again, that's subjective too.) But for MANY people masturbating to a picture of a family member...especially a barely legal one, is disturbing. It would be disturbing for me. I don't think you get to tell me what I would find disturbing. I also don't think you get to tell me or anyone else if they are over reacting to it. I said nothing drastic. I suggested therapy.  Even healthy happy couples can benefit from it from time to time. I clearly said it would be to nip the issue in the bud. I am actually curious as to what you think is such an over reaction. I gave my opinion based on one small post, so my response was broad.

"Well okay most don't run off to the bathroom with a picture of their wife's younger sister but still. We all fantasize, and even if you don't want to admit it we all fantasize about people we know sometimes. Haven't you ever thought about a friend or a friends friend, neighbour, gym teacher or whomever that he was cute and what you'd like to do to him/her or he/she'd do to you?"

You are lecturing the WRONG person. I am a HUGE believer in fantasies. They are healthy and fun. I have LOTS of them. However, I can see how this MIGHT BE distressing to someone. And I believe that because she came to a message board to ask, it probably WAS upsetting to her. And THAT is ok.

I'm no prude...I'm a porn watching, sex loving, fantasy having woman.

I didn't "proclaim" this to be ANYTHING...I was merely giving MY OPINION on what this woman might do...considering she is upset and she HAS A RIGHT TO BE.

I also said it was awesome that he came clean about it. That he didn't lie about it. That is incredibly healthy and I told her to give him credit where credit is due.

I am sure you misunderstood the tone of my post. It's possible that is my fault because I normally spend time on debate boards and I come across very matter-of-factly and very bluntly. I was simply throwing everything I had at the problem....
 
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August 2, 2008, 12:37 am PDT

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Wow you're brining out the canons in order to kill a mosquito. Though the trust issue has to be dealt with and it may indeed require some counseling. But overall you are way overreacting. This is not some wierdo or atyppical behaviour, this is in fact common regular normal behaviour of men and indeed women.

 

Well okay most don't run off to the bathroom with a picture of their wifes younger sister but still. We all fantasize, and even if you don't want to admit it we all fantasize about people we know sometimes. Haven't you ever thought about a friend or a friends friend, neighbour, gym teacher or whomever that he was cute and what you'd like to do to him/her or he/she'd do to you?

 

It is even so that during sex many fantasize about others not because they don't love their partner or don't find them sexy but because in order to get an orgasm we need to focus o n ourselves for a little while so that we can achieve the state needed to achieve orgasm (it can be done if you keep focussing on your partner it just becomes (a lot) harder)

 

also this was a picture of her 18 year old sister nothing wierd about the age difference their either. I mean did you think all those porn sites are paid for just by lonely men and curious teens?

 

So okay it might be a scary thought of him doing that to her sister and their might be an issue of trust but it is not as big as you proclaim it to be.

I want to restate that I personally DO think this is serious. I think that masturbating to your wife's sisters picture (a barely legal girl) is not good. I think many people would agree. But even if they didn't....so what. I believe it's serious and I have the right to feel it's so. I think it crosses a line of familiarity and trust that fantasizing about a stranger or celebrity doesn't.  This woman also shouldn't be made to feel like she would be wrong to take it seriously.


 
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August 2, 2008, 1:04 pm PDT

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I want to restate that I personally DO think this is serious. I think that masturbating to your wife's sisters picture (a barely legal girl) is not good. I think many people would agree. But even if they didn't....so what. I believe it's serious and I have the right to feel it's so. I think it crosses a line of familiarity and trust that fantasizing about a stranger or celebrity doesn't.  This woman also shouldn't be made to feel like she would be wrong to take it seriously.


Hmm I don't know if it crosses a li ne of familliarity. I think that that line is more in the mind of the observer then the subject. When masturbating the guy or girl you are fantasizing about is nothing more then an object, a means to an end. It could have been the neighbour or the neighbours daughter or... well you get the point.

In the eye of the observer it is much more significant. She feels less close to the neighbour then to her own sister and even less close then that is some celeberty. That means se feels less hurt by it very understandebly.

I must say here that I do not blame her for feelig hurt, betrayed and disgusted it is the man in this that could have thought about the implications of him masturbating to her. And even then he still could've left the picture and done it by fantasy alone. I think that in this the man is at fault.

So in essence I think that the man in this did nothing abnormal, in choosing an object for his fantasies. Even though he wasn't thinking about the implecations of using the sister as an object in his fantasies. It is worse if he also has true feelings for her. What lies between them is an issue of trust, betrail, disgust and maybe more. It might be that they need help in dealing with this, but that is something they should decide about. I think that they should not just run off to therapy if they feel they can do it on themselves.

 

And still the age is an non issue in this. isn't the whole fantasy thing invented to get you the best you can possibly get. I mean there are 1000's of sites featuring "barely legal girls" (515000 according to a major search engine) They aren't their just because we have a lot of single teens and tweens. Most men want to see girls in the prime of their lives around twenty years of age. Why else would all pornstars have implants lifts and lot's of make-up on. It is all about the perfect girl, or rather what we as a society see as a perfect girl. You know the cheerleading, sporting, straight A student who is blond skinny tall, has a hourglass figure and has large breasts. The ultimate fantasy of our society. Not to my liking either, deversity is the flavor of the world ofcourse, but it is the way it is.

 

Now, I realize that if I wrote the first reply I would have written something else, less strong and more empathic. I replied to you, setting a word against yours to balance it a bit. It was not my intention not to take the woman seriously or feel silly for feeling betrayed or disgusted.

 
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August 2, 2008, 5:41 pm PDT

Is this normal?

Just looking for some feed back.

A few mo's ago my husband and I were fighting and it looked like he was leaving me for good.

I found out about A week later that he had called up my daughter 25 who is married if he could be with her sexually he said some creepy things and she flipped out. Of course however he blamed it on being drunk and he pleated with me to be able to work things out with me.

I agreed to but by doing that I have ruined any normal relationship with my daughter.

What to do. Make it work or not?

any ideas? am I a creep?

 
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August 2, 2008, 10:59 pm PDT

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Hmm I don't know if it crosses a li ne of familliarity. I think that that line is more in the mind of the observer then the subject. When masturbating the guy or girl you are fantasizing about is nothing more then an object, a means to an end. It could have been the neighbour or the neighbours daughter or... well you get the point.

In the eye of the observer it is much more significant. She feels less close to the neighbour then to her own sister and even less close then that is some celeberty. That means se feels less hurt by it very understandebly.

I must say here that I do not blame her for feelig hurt, betrayed and disgusted it is the man in this that could have thought about the implications of him masturbating to her. And even then he still could've left the picture and done it by fantasy alone. I think that in this the man is at fault.

So in essence I think that the man in this did nothing abnormal, in choosing an object for his fantasies. Even though he wasn't thinking about the implecations of using the sister as an object in his fantasies. It is worse if he also has true feelings for her. What lies between them is an issue of trust, betrail, disgust and maybe more. It might be that they need help in dealing with this, but that is something they should decide about. I think that they should not just run off to therapy if they feel they can do it on themselves.

 

And still the age is an non issue in this. isn't the whole fantasy thing invented to get you the best you can possibly get. I mean there are 1000's of sites featuring "barely legal girls" (515000 according to a major search engine) They aren't their just because we have a lot of single teens and tweens. Most men want to see girls in the prime of their lives around twenty years of age. Why else would all pornstars have implants lifts and lot's of make-up on. It is all about the perfect girl, or rather what we as a society see as a perfect girl. You know the cheerleading, sporting, straight A student who is blond skinny tall, has a hourglass figure and has large breasts. The ultimate fantasy of our society. Not to my liking either, deversity is the flavor of the world ofcourse, but it is the way it is.

 

Now, I realize that if I wrote the first reply I would have written something else, less strong and more empathic. I replied to you, setting a word against yours to balance it a bit. It was not my intention not to take the woman seriously or feel silly for feeling betrayed or disgusted.

"When masturbating the guy or girl you are fantasizing about is nothing more then an object, a means to an end."

Sometimes. Sometimes not. If it's someone that is a mutual friend, family member or interested party that is a line of familiarity that is clearly crossed. If that upsets a person I don't think they are out of line. I don't think my advice was out of line. That was my point.

"I must say here that I do not blame her for feeling hurt, betrayed and disgusted it is the man in this that could have thought about the implications of him masturbating to her. And even then he still could've left the picture and done it by fantasy alone. I think that in this the man is at fault."

I personally wouldn't go that far myself, you have the right to feel that way. But I don't think there is any real "fault" here...if he was just using this picture as an object to create an orgasm then I think that it was poor judgment, but it's not something I'd recommend anyone lose their mind over. If he IS attracted to his SIL then it's no ones "fault"...attraction is something people have little or even no control over. It simply IS and should be dealt with. But either of these things are serious...or at least could be serious to someone.

"And still the age is an non issue in this."

Not in my opinion. If he gets his jollies BECAUSE she's very young then that is an issue that should at least be looked at. If this is a picture of her when she's 14 or something like that then he has an issue to deal with that could have legal implication if he let it fester into something more.

One last thing I want to say is I believe fantasies are private (mostly, I'm talking personal private fantasies here, not mutual fantasies) for 2 reasons. 1-Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts, even if they are married. Those thoughts are no one's business, even the spouse. 2-Fantasies can be taken out of context or misunderstood by others. I think it's just best to keep those kinds of personal things very personal. (Again, I'm not talking about the fantasies you share. I'm talking about personal little things that are meant for only the person who thinks them.)
 

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