Topic : Is This Normal?

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Created on : Friday, July 01, 2005, 05:19:40 pm
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Your partner asked you to do WHAT? Some things are taboo. Some things are common but just not discussed. Where does your sex life fit in?

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November 21, 2006, 8:05 am PST

Is This Normal?

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I would be curious as to whether he played computer games before you married. Not curious for any reason other than if it is his hobby and he has had it for a long time you are not going to be able to take it from him.

 

It doesn't mean he doesn't care about you, or that he doesn't care enough about you, it just means it is something he really enjoys and is passionate about (that many hours gaming is passionate gaming). Have you ever thought about joining him in his gaming? Believe it or not lots of husbands and wives enjoy gaming together. Just as husbands and wives like mixed bowling leagues, it is a hobby/sport you do together.

 

You are married to him not to his mom. I don't know what brought on mom's comment, but I hope you were not bad mouthing son to his mother....not even if she invites it. Never a good idea, and never agree with a m-i-l even if you do actually agree and she is criticizing her son. If he says it is not true then it is not true, he is who you are married to, why would you even think his mothers thoughts played into it? Sheese he can't feel very good if you and his mom are questioning his motives and heart.

 

As far as sex is concerned, talk to him. Ask him straight up if he feels like your sex life is not what it should be. Know one thing if you think it is lousy I guarantee he does too. Your issue is communication not gaming and not sex those are side issues to the lack of quality communication. 

 

It is about being able to talk to each other without reprisals. Key phrase there....without reprisals.....that is essential to any relationship. That means no fits and tantrums to his answers, it means no guilt trips and no ultimatums, it means you do nothing but listen to him and he has the same rules, he has to listen. Listening impairment is the number one issue in most marriages, both suffer from it and both can overcome it. But it takes both to do so. 

 

Gaming, well hon, honestly my hubby games if I didn't game with him I would never see him. lol But many is the night we log the computers and head to bed together chattering away about our adventures in game and one thing leads to another....and the sex has never been better. If you want passion, try understanding what he is passionate about and let the dominoes fall.

 

Ami

 

 

Are you sure he is only playing games> And not using that excuse to look at porn when you think he is playing games. You should check the history on the computer when he isnt aware. You might be surprised by the kind of games he is really playing.
 
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November 23, 2006, 12:43 am PST

Low sex drive & he keeps groping me...

My husband likes to and constantly gropes me in places that makes me uncomfortable and push his hands away. He doesn't seem to get that its a problem for me. It doesn't turn me on instead I am turned off by it. Its been happening for a while now and seems to be a vicious cycle: the more I push him away, the more often he tries & the more frustrated he feels and the more guilty I feel.

Its come to the point that he's getting upset that I'm constantly rejecting him. We've spoken about it a few times and he can't seem to hear me that it bothers me or he doesn't understand why it should.

Is it me? Am I being overly sensitive?

I think that I also have a low sex drive and we have come to the point of only making love, on average, once a month, and only after he asks for it.




 

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November 24, 2006, 12:45 pm PST

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My husband likes to and constantly gropes me in places that makes me uncomfortable and push his hands away. He doesn't seem to get that its a problem for me. It doesn't turn me on instead I am turned off by it. Its been happening for a while now and seems to be a vicious cycle: the more I push him away, the more often he tries & the more frustrated he feels and the more guilty I feel.

Its come to the point that he's getting upset that I'm constantly rejecting him. We've spoken about it a few times and he can't seem to hear me that it bothers me or he doesn't understand why it should.

Is it me? Am I being overly sensitive?

I think that I also have a low sex drive and we have come to the point of only making love, on average, once a month, and only after he asks for it.




Well...my first thought would be that his insensitive behavior is what leads to your lack of interest in sex.  Could it be?  There is nothing wrong with showing interest--it can even be flattering--but groping can go too far.  It can even be part of abuse.  Is your husband controlling or abusive in any way?  You've told him that it doesn't turn you on and he continues to do it and then has the nerve to get upset because you STILL don't want sex.  If he'd listen to you, he'd probably be getting more than he gets now.

 

What do you mean--"he can't seem to hear me...?"  Does he not listen?  Does he not care?  Really it doesn't matter if he understands or not.  He's making a choice to do something that annoys you and he can choose to change his behavior if your comfort and happiness matters to him at all.  Is he always so selfish?

 

Does he grope you in public places or in front of other people? 

 

Do you really think that you have a low sex drive or is it that you've lost interest due to his behavior?  Are you aroused if he's considerate (or does that ever happen)?  Do you ever think it would be nice to have sex but then change your mind because of the way he treats you?  Have you ever had a sex drive?

 
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November 24, 2006, 6:46 pm PST

Is This Normal?

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I've had the same thing happen before.  It was always when the sex/orgasm was really good and I felt really happy.  It also seemed to be related to feeling loved and accepted--sometimes (unfortunately) after a period of time wondering if I really was loved.  I have heard about it happening to others, so it's nothing to be worried about--unless you're feeling sad or upset about something, you're being abused, etc--but that doesn't seem to be your case at all.  There is nothing wrong with you.  You are opening your heart and being vulnerable.
Thanks for your reply, I have never experienced anything like that before so it is reassurring to me to hear that I am not the only person that this has happened to.  Thanks again.
 
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November 26, 2006, 7:12 pm PST

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My husband likes to and constantly gropes me in places that makes me uncomfortable and push his hands away. He doesn't seem to get that its a problem for me. It doesn't turn me on instead I am turned off by it. Its been happening for a while now and seems to be a vicious cycle: the more I push him away, the more often he tries & the more frustrated he feels and the more guilty I feel.

Its come to the point that he's getting upset that I'm constantly rejecting him. We've spoken about it a few times and he can't seem to hear me that it bothers me or he doesn't understand why it should.

Is it me? Am I being overly sensitive?

I think that I also have a low sex drive and we have come to the point of only making love, on average, once a month, and only after he asks for it.




u r not alone my friend. my partner of 8 yrs is what i call an octopus. he also gets frustrated and constantly comments and i also find myself feeling guilty. u have nothing to feel guilty about. its your body and your emotions. be proud of yourself. i have no real advise but i hope this message finds u well. hopeful that your husband finds more romantic ways to loving u.
 
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November 27, 2006, 3:52 am PST

Is This Normal?

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Well...my first thought would be that his insensitive behavior is what leads to your lack of interest in sex.  Could it be?  There is nothing wrong with showing interest--it can even be flattering--but groping can go too far.  It can even be part of abuse.  Is your husband controlling or abusive in any way?  You've told him that it doesn't turn you on and he continues to do it and then has the nerve to get upset because you STILL don't want sex.  If he'd listen to you, he'd probably be getting more than he gets now.

 

What do you mean--"he can't seem to hear me...?"  Does he not listen?  Does he not care?  Really it doesn't matter if he understands or not.  He's making a choice to do something that annoys you and he can choose to change his behavior if your comfort and happiness matters to him at all.  Is he always so selfish?

 

Does he grope you in public places or in front of other people? 

 

Do you really think that you have a low sex drive or is it that you've lost interest due to his behavior?  Are you aroused if he's considerate (or does that ever happen)?  Do you ever think it would be nice to have sex but then change your mind because of the way he treats you?  Have you ever had a sex drive?

My husband is not abusive or controlling and he gropes me only when we are alone. We have a very equal relationship; we've never really argue and always talk through any disagreement. We both watch & agree with Dr. Phil's approach to marriage/relationships. I can honestly say we have a good marriage with its usual ups & downs.

However this seems to be such a sensitive subject and I can see the frustration in him as well as in me. I don't understand why he can't hear me (he usually can see my point of view) and why he keeps thinking that its ok. He keeps trying and keeps getting the same results, so shouldn't it be obvious to him that its not working?

Does he equate my pushing him away as me rejecting him sexually? Does he really think that women get aroused by this? I can go a month or two without feeling the urge for sex, but if he initiates it with a back rub, something romantic then it does get me in the mood. The groping definitely turns me off because I feel like a piece of meat and also feel sad that he doesn't put in the effort anymore or doesn't think I'm worth the effort anymore but expects the same result from me.

I'm afraid that if I bring it up again with any less tact then we will have an all out fight. Then how do I fix the hurt feelings after that? I can already picture him sulking, the silent treatment and he'll go to the extreme of not touching me at all then the guilt will come rushing through. Then it will start all over again.

I just wish he would show his affection the way I want (without sex constantly hanging in the background).

How do we both win from this?
 
 
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November 28, 2006, 1:19 pm PST

Sex?

I have been married with my husband for 10 years and married for 3. We were very active and had a great sex, but shortly after I started to feel uncomfortable  when I found out he had a problem with porn. I found magazines, tapes, and pop ups on our computer. What bothered me the most was a disturbing look when women would walk by. He would literally stare as if they were naked. I confronted him about it, but he never actually talked about it or understood why it bothered me he just blamed it on being single for so long. When our son was born, my insecurity got worse. I had a c-section, gained 20 pounds and became even more self conscious about not living up to his standard of what he thought was sexy.  We seemed to move on and slowly I try to let it go. Don't get me wrong we do have sex, but it is just that "sex". I don't even remember the last time we kissed while in bed. I have explained to him that I feel like a prostitute. Its just wham bam that you mame, no kissing involved and the sex is so disconnected. Believe me I love my husband. I couldn't imagine myself without him. I  even came to except the kissing isn't really important  anymore. Just a couple of days ago I was putting his clothes away and I found some porn in the bottom of his drawer. I was completely devastated. I just find is so hard to see why a married man feels the need to lust for another women. I still have not confronted him about it because I just don't know what to think? He knows something is bothering me. I have been trying to think it out, but I don't know if I should confront him or just let it go.
 

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November 28, 2006, 2:16 pm PST

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I have been married with my husband for 10 years and married for 3. We were very active and had a great sex, but shortly after I started to feel uncomfortable  when I found out he had a problem with porn. I found magazines, tapes, and pop ups on our computer. What bothered me the most was a disturbing look when women would walk by. He would literally stare as if they were naked. I confronted him about it, but he never actually talked about it or understood why it bothered me he just blamed it on being single for so long. When our son was born, my insecurity got worse. I had a c-section, gained 20 pounds and became even more self conscious about not living up to his standard of what he thought was sexy.  We seemed to move on and slowly I try to let it go. Don't get me wrong we do have sex, but it is just that "sex". I don't even remember the last time we kissed while in bed. I have explained to him that I feel like a prostitute. Its just wham bam that you mame, no kissing involved and the sex is so disconnected. Believe me I love my husband. I couldn't imagine myself without him. I  even came to except the kissing isn't really important  anymore. Just a couple of days ago I was putting his clothes away and I found some porn in the bottom of his drawer. I was completely devastated. I just find is so hard to see why a married man feels the need to lust for another women. I still have not confronted him about it because I just don't know what to think? He knows something is bothering me. I have been trying to think it out, but I don't know if I should confront him or just let it go.

There is a busy message board on the Dr. Phil site that relates to porn.  Have you seen it?  You might want to visit there because there are lots of women in your situation.  I have not had the issue come up, but I empathize.  I know what you mean by the look your husband gives women.  I've seen men like that.  I don't think it's normal and I'm not exactly young and naive.  When men looked at me like that (when I was younger and thinner, LOL), I was uncomfortable.  It isn't because I didn't like being admired.  It was because they weren't admiring me--they were looking at my body like it was a piece of meat and they were hungry!  It was kind of creepy.  I feel for the women he stares at.  Anyway, being the spouse of someone who does that must feel pretty bad, too.  I had a boyfriend who did that and it hurt a lot, especially because he didn't put much energy into the relationship.  I'm guessing that if your husband was loving and showing you enough attention in bed (and out), you wouldn't be so annoyed by his behavior. 

 

It seems like a lot of the women in your situation have sex that is rather boring and unsatisfying because the husbands focus on themselves and ignore their wives needs.  Have you told him that you want more during sex?  I would be more concerned with his lack of attention during sex (and leading up to it, too?) than his use of porn, although he might have a porn addiction and that is serious.  Maybe compromising on the porn would be more likely if you were getting his attention during sex.  Think so? 

 

I think it would help you to talk to the people on the porn message board.  There are women and men there who have been hanging out for a long time talking about it.  They will probably have some insight into it.  I am just looking at the unbalance.  It looks like you're totally devoted to him and he seems to be taking you for granted; maybe it's just my first impression.  What do you think?

 
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December 8, 2006, 1:18 pm PST

Is This Normal?

My husband and I are highschool sweethearts and have been married for 13 years and together for 19.  We have 3 kids.  A couple of  months ago I realized that all these years I have been having sex with my husband 3 times a week or more because if I don't he gets easily aggitated, angry, and just not fun to be around.  It dawned on me after my daughter and I spent 2 days and a night away from the rest of the family. My husband made me feel bad and guilty for not spending the weekend with him and the boys.  Because of the quilt that I felt I promised him that Sat. and Sunday night I would make sure that he had a good time (sex).  When I got home that afternoon he was a jerk to me and we fought for most of that evening. We ended up doing something anyway.  The next morning he still was a jerk and we didn't get along for most of that day.  We ended up having sex that night becaused I promised him a good time.  In the middle of the night I woke up and it just hit me that all these years sex has been his medicine in life to make him feel better, and it has always been up to me to make him feel better.  I am very tired of caring this on my shoulders.  I now have so much rescentment towards him that I don't want to have sex with him.  The only way that I could think of making things better was to stop having sex until he learned to think differently about sex and until I actually wanted it from him.  He initiates it 98% of the time,  I never get a chance because if it were up to him we would do it everyday.  I told my husband how I felt and how I thought we could make things better so we went without for a week. During that week we hardly communicated and things were very cold.  After a week went by he told me that he won't wait until I wanted to do it because he deserves to have sex often.  He thinks he now deserves it more because in the last 3 months he has been activly helping out around the house more. For 18 1/2 years I have done 95% of the household chores and been the main caregiver to our kids.  I feel like alls I've ever done is give, give, give and I just don't have it or even want to give to him anymore.  We  had sex 2 times within the last week after this discussion and one of the times I had a headache which he knew about and still he wanted to to do something, and we did.  It makes me feel sick and also very angry with him and I don't know how to get over this.
 
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December 8, 2006, 2:32 pm PST

Is This Normal?

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My husband and I are highschool sweethearts and have been married for 13 years and together for 19.  We have 3 kids.  A couple of  months ago I realized that all these years I have been having sex with my husband 3 times a week or more because if I don't he gets easily aggitated, angry, and just not fun to be around.  It dawned on me after my daughter and I spent 2 days and a night away from the rest of the family. My husband made me feel bad and guilty for not spending the weekend with him and the boys.  Because of the quilt that I felt I promised him that Sat. and Sunday night I would make sure that he had a good time (sex).  When I got home that afternoon he was a jerk to me and we fought for most of that evening. We ended up doing something anyway.  The next morning he still was a jerk and we didn't get along for most of that day.  We ended up having sex that night becaused I promised him a good time.  In the middle of the night I woke up and it just hit me that all these years sex has been his medicine in life to make him feel better, and it has always been up to me to make him feel better.  I am very tired of caring this on my shoulders.  I now have so much rescentment towards him that I don't want to have sex with him.  The only way that I could think of making things better was to stop having sex until he learned to think differently about sex and until I actually wanted it from him.  He initiates it 98% of the time,  I never get a chance because if it were up to him we would do it everyday.  I told my husband how I felt and how I thought we could make things better so we went without for a week. During that week we hardly communicated and things were very cold.  After a week went by he told me that he won't wait until I wanted to do it because he deserves to have sex often.  He thinks he now deserves it more because in the last 3 months he has been activly helping out around the house more. For 18 1/2 years I have done 95% of the household chores and been the main caregiver to our kids.  I feel like alls I've ever done is give, give, give and I just don't have it or even want to give to him anymore.  We  had sex 2 times within the last week after this discussion and one of the times I had a headache which he knew about and still he wanted to to do something, and we did.  It makes me feel sick and also very angry with him and I don't know how to get over this.
How much have you told him that you have typed here? Maybe you should let him read this post.

"After a week went by he told me that he won't wait until I wanted to do it because he deserves to have sex often."

He does not own your vagina. He doesn't "deserve" to have sex.  NO ONE "deserves" sex with anyone. Sex is supposed to be a mutual physical expression of love. Especially in a marriage.  If he just needs to get off he can masturbate. You shouldn't be having sex with him right now. All it will do is create more and more and more resentment and anger in you.

You need to tell him straight out everything you have told this board.

You also should maybe see about counseling for this.
 

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