Topic : Is This Normal?

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Your partner asked you to do WHAT? Some things are taboo. Some things are common but just not discussed. Where does your sex life fit in?

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anxious
July 24, 2007, 10:08 am PDT

Oh, Donna!

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I have been talking to this guy online for 3yrs now and he will be moving down by me to go to school. The things that we chat about 99.9% of the time is anything that has to do with sex, what he likes for example: me in thongs, what he wants me to do example: a threesome. . The other things that i dont know how to explain are that now and then he whines and complains if i dont do what he wants sexually while we are chatting online messenger.

 

He has gotten mad at me for things just cause i didnt wanna do what he wanted, months ago of this year he has told me that he wanted me to wear a thong everyday except for when i have my monthly thing. If he caught me wearing any panty that isn't a thong he was goin to cut up all my regular panties and throw them in the trash, now i brought it up again like weeks or so afterwards to him he ended up dissing it like he was only joking about it. He has told me wanted me to sleep naked everynight,  wear a thong when im told to call him on his cell to ask him if i can wear pj's to bed or wear regular panties instead of a thong which i never did and when he has asked about it i just lied. If he found otherwise i have to face the consequences like smacking me on my ass, pinching and smacking my breasts this went on for a couple of weeks to a month then just of of blue he stopped the behavior. It has been months since he acted like that and just the other day he acted so excited just cause i was wearing boyshorts, but always before he acted like take those off right now and put on a thong.

He has even asked me about if i would or told me that he want me to flash myself in public, wear a miniskirt without any panties in public, has said in past that he would like to wear womens lingerie

 

He doesnt like to be asked alot of questions about non-sex questions and if i do ask questions that dont have anything to do with sex he gives short answers and doesnt seem interested in talking about anything else inless its related to sex except when he's in a bad mood or i have made him mad and or upset like in the past. We have argued or had disaggrements he has stopped talking to me for like a week cause he said i made him mad. One time he were talking on messenger he replied to something i said or I asked him a question well I didnt understand what his reply was at first cause he misspelled a word so i asked him to repeat it and it made him mad, but before that all started he was fine. So far he has called me a bitch once which was unneccessary and over something that i thought was stupid to get mad over. He calls me his slut which i dont particularly like, but i ignore it. He has also buzzed me on messenger lots of time, but this one time he buzzed to get my attention whell i told him to stop and continued to buzz me each time i told him to stop which probaly like 3-5 times. I asked him why you doing that for and his reply was i dont like being told what to do. He goes back and forth with things like there be a time he say doesnt like something then sometime later he will say was only joking just to see what i say. He will get mad about certain things then i ask him about it later and he will be ok not acting mad at all.

 

I am sure there is more, but i cant remember it all. We have never met yet though he is a young guy of 23 has had a g/f that was an on and off relationship that i know didnt go well at all. They finally stopped dating cause she didnt wanna be with him again.

 

thanks, i hope i get some replies cause he's moving in like 3weeks

What's wrong with him?  He's controlling and verbally abusive, just for starts--and you haven't even met him yet!  This guy is bad news.  I can just imagine how controlling he will be if he moves in with you.  That isn't the plan, is it?  I mean, he IS going to have his own housing, right? 

 

It isn't so much his preferences for thongs, etc, that would have me concerned.  He wants to control you and that is not good.  Have you ever read about verbal abuse?  You might want to check out the abuse message board here or the drirene.com site.  There are lots of others, too. 

 

Abusers use the line, "I was only joking" a lot.  Go read the abuse message board.  Ask around.  This guy you're planning to meet has all the signs of an abuser.  Save yourself a lot of pain and talk to some people who fell for guys like this. 

 

You see all of this yourself, don't you?  Did you just need someone to tell you that there IS something wrong with the guy?  I hope you'll write back with your thoughts.

 

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anxious
July 24, 2007, 10:17 am PDT

Minniemouse

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now as some of you know i am 28 and a virgin!

I really could careless for being a virgin I had many issuses that kept pushing me away from sex!

mainly fear of intimacy and fear of trusthing people and I

Don't like to be touched cause when i was a child my mom use to beat me with a belt when ever i did something wrong! I mena there were days when i was really black and blue!!!

mainly i met this guy so i want to have sex with him but there is a but !

1. he probably doesn't know i'm a virgin!

2. he said no strings I'm fine with that

3 I love how he touches my body it never felt more natural and good !!! men have touched me but i have always refused their touch cause I didn't like it!

4. he sexually turns me on like no one before. :)

 

now the problem is I really want to have sex with him but he is very sexually agressive, I have told him that and he has calmed down a bit! I am also to a point worried how is he going to react when i tell him i'm a virgin I mean I really hope he won't be running for the hills! I have had men leave men when i told them this!

He has called me a tease and I really am not teasing him! I told him i'm not teasing you at all! I really don't feel like teasing someone if i ain't doing anythign about it!

How do i tell the man i'm a virgin!

just blur it out ?

is there an approch ?!

I mean i'm going to tell him the next time i see him i just need to know is there a way to say something like that with out maybe scaring the guy away?!

IS there a sensative approch

knowing me I just blur things out and hope for the best!

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I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I'm wondering if you have gone to counseling about your lack of trust, fear of intimacy, etc?  If you don't get to the bottom of it, it will cause problems in one relationship after another.  A lot of us have childhood issues that need to be dealt with when we're older, so it's nothing to be ashamed of.  I grew up with abuse and I've been in counseling many times.  It has contributed to my choosing the wrong types of men--abusive, controlling, etc.  You're still young, so I hope you will get help before you have to go through years of unhealthy relationships.

 

OK, now that that is out of the way....  You said the guy is sexually aggressive.  I think he just wants sex and it won't matter to him if you're a virgin or not.  How long have you known this guy?  How long has he been sexually aggressive?

 

His calling you a tease when you are just waiting for sex is not a good sign.  You say you're not teasing him and I believe you.  I've heard aggressive guys say this when they are just trying to make women feel guilty for not having sex.  I think that this guy is saying you're a tease so you will feel guilty about it and give in.

 

How often do you see him?  Have you told him already?  I would just mention to him that you're taking your time because you haven't had sex before.  Tell him that you need time to feel safe.

 

To tell the truth, I don't think you'd be losing anything if the guy did run for the hills.  He'd be doing you a favor.  Sorry, I'm sure that's not what you want to hear.  I'd just hate to have your first time ruined by someone who is so insensitive to your needs. 

 

Will you let us know what happens?

 
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July 24, 2007, 5:55 pm PDT

Is This Normal?

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What's wrong with him?  He's controlling and verbally abusive, just for starts--and you haven't even met him yet!  This guy is bad news.  I can just imagine how controlling he will be if he moves in with you.  That isn't the plan, is it?  I mean, he IS going to have his own housing, right? 

 

It isn't so much his preferences for thongs, etc, that would have me concerned.  He wants to control you and that is not good.  Have you ever read about verbal abuse?  You might want to check out the abuse message board here or the drirene.com site.  There are lots of others, too. 

 

Abusers use the line, "I was only joking" a lot.  Go read the abuse message board.  Ask around.  This guy you're planning to meet has all the signs of an abuser.  Save yourself a lot of pain and talk to some people who fell for guys like this. 

 

You see all of this yourself, don't you?  Did you just need someone to tell you that there IS something wrong with the guy?  I hope you'll write back with your thoughts.

 

There are a few other guys that i talk to on messenger also and they have said he's crazy, stay away from him and so on. I don't remember or think he showed this behavior the first 2yrs or so when we were talking online.  No, i wont be moving in with him he and his friend will be living together in the next town. I have read a few, but not all of the other messages on abuse and noticed that he has acted in some way to what i read. There is something else that i've thought about just recently is that I have asked him several times if he has done these things with his ex like wanting her to wear thongs, sleep naked all time, 3some, being the dominant one to her  etc and he said no which is probaly because where he lives everyone knows him he doesnt want them to know thats how he is so now he will be moving into an unfamiliar territory which will make it easier for him to express this behavior.

I know there is something messed up, but i still like to hear what other people have to say.

 

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July 24, 2007, 6:59 pm PDT

I Can't Forget His past

I met my partner online, he was everything I was looking for in a man, the first time we met after talking online and on the phone for about 1 year, we were smitten with each other.  Got along great sexually.  His wife had left for another man 2 years before and he told me he had been with 2 women sexually since that time.  Not long term, just fleeting.  We travelled back and forth (2 hours by plane) between his state and mine for 3-4 days at a time, usually every month.  After 6 months of this we decided we wanted to live together.  He asked me to move to his state cause it woud be easier for me to get a job there than him to get one in my state.  That was true and so I relocated, left my 2 adult (married) children, 4 grandchildren and my extended family and moved here.  I got a great job almost immediately.  We had decided to stay in his family home because it was big and close to the city where we both work. (He had also offered to sell it and get a brand new house together). He said we could change it anyway I liked to make it ours, so we totally renovated, bought new furniture etc and I was happy with that.  He had nice friends that became mine too.

However, after a couple of months I was looking thru his computer and found an email account he and his wife had, the address was something like "couples4fun" and I called him on it, he admitted he and his wife were into swinging with other couples and the friends of his that were now mine, were involved in it as well.  I went absolutely ballistic and threatened to move back to my home state, I felt betrayed and made a fool of because we socialised with these other people and they all knew about the past.  He assured me it was all over long before his wife left, and his friends assured me of the same.  However, I couldn't accept them anymore, particularly the women cause he had slept with them and they became my friends and never told me what had gone on, I felt deceived by them and persuaded to move here under false pretences.  We gradually saw them less and less and he told them all that I wasn't comfortable with them anymore and no longer wished to see them and he wouldn't either as his commitment was to me not them.  They weren't happy, but agreed that for our relationship to work, it was best for us.

Some months went by and I was seeing a counsellor to deal with this problem and my feeling of mistrust of him because he hadn't told me up front.  He said if he had told me about it from the start, I never would have moved here and he would have lost me.  He was right, I would have ended it immediately. 

I've since found out (from his computer) that even after his wife left, he was involved in threesomes with these other people, in this house ..... the house that we have renovated beautifully.  He offered to get rid of any furniture of his that we still had and I agreed, it all went and we chose together and bought all new stuff, beds, sofas etc, so there is no trace from his previous life here, its all just us, starting over brand new. 

The problem is that because he lied to me, I just don't feel that I can trust him, I question everywhere he goes, what he does etc.  Because he met a lot of these people in the course of his working days, he's a sales manager, I question him on where he goes thru the day, who he sees etc.  He says this hurts him as he hasn't done anything wrong since I've moved here and it hurts that I don't trust him.  I believe that he is totally faithful and truthful to me now and for the most part we are truly happy, but I can't forget his past and how I was lied to.  I go home to see my kids every 6-8 weeks, sometimes he comes with me, and they love him, but when I go alone, I worry that he will cheat on me and I check on him all the time.  He says this is ruining our happiness and I should put the past behind us as he did nothing to betray ME, it was a mutual thing that he and his wife did and it was all over by the time I came here, but he lied to me so easily before.  His friends told me they urged him to tell me before I came but he was scared of losing me and that I wouldn't come here.

I truly love him and I know he loves me, he's attentive, loving considerate and devoted to me, I know that, and he's never given me any cause to suspect him of anything wrong, he never goes out at nights or weekends without me unless it to football games with male friends (friends that he's made thru my workplace).  We have totally new friends now and they're all happy and normal married couples.

I just can't get the past out of my mind tho, the thought of what they did disgusts me and abhorrs me, I don't know how he can say he loved his wife and yet watch her have sex with other men while he had sex with their wives, that tells me they have no respect for themselves, each other or their relationships, so how can they profess to love each other ? I know I probably sound naive, but to me, true love is a relationship with 2 people, not a crowd.  We have a great innovative sex life and we work at it to keep it fresh and spontaneous, every part of our lives is great, good jobs, great independent kids, lovely house and an affectionate and loving relationship, we laugh a lot and are totally comfortable with each other and our lives.  Except for the nagging doubts that are always in my mind,  am I enough for him ? will he look for more excitng situations like he had in tha past ?

 

I'd be really interested to hear what other people think as there's no-one I can talk to here, I'm too ashamed to reveal this to my friends or my family, they'd be horrified.

 

 
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July 26, 2007, 1:36 pm PDT

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There are a few other guys that i talk to on messenger also and they have said he's crazy, stay away from him and so on. I don't remember or think he showed this behavior the first 2yrs or so when we were talking online.  No, i wont be moving in with him he and his friend will be living together in the next town. I have read a few, but not all of the other messages on abuse and noticed that he has acted in some way to what i read. There is something else that i've thought about just recently is that I have asked him several times if he has done these things with his ex like wanting her to wear thongs, sleep naked all time, 3some, being the dominant one to her  etc and he said no which is probaly because where he lives everyone knows him he doesnt want them to know thats how he is so now he will be moving into an unfamiliar territory which will make it easier for him to express this behavior.

I know there is something messed up, but i still like to hear what other people have to say.

 

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July 26, 2007, 1:59 pm PDT

Donna83

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There are a few other guys that i talk to on messenger also and they have said he's crazy, stay away from him and so on. I don't remember or think he showed this behavior the first 2yrs or so when we were talking online.  No, i wont be moving in with him he and his friend will be living together in the next town. I have read a few, but not all of the other messages on abuse and noticed that he has acted in some way to what i read. There is something else that i've thought about just recently is that I have asked him several times if he has done these things with his ex like wanting her to wear thongs, sleep naked all time, 3some, being the dominant one to her  etc and he said no which is probaly because where he lives everyone knows him he doesnt want them to know thats how he is so now he will be moving into an unfamiliar territory which will make it easier for him to express this behavior.

I know there is something messed up, but i still like to hear what other people have to say.

Wow, you even have other people online telling you to stay away from the guy?  It would be interesting to talk to his ex, wouldn't it?  Will he let you do that?  Do you know how to contact her?  It might be good to make sure he isn't violent, since he is moving close to you and he knows a lot about you.  He may have tried to do these things with her, but she refused, so they broke up.  I'm just guessing.  It will be easier for him to show his true colors in a new environment.

 

I'm so glad to hear that you're not having him move in.  I would think alot about that in case he suddenly tries to move in with you.  He might fabricate a fight with his roommate, say he has no place to go, etc.  Be sure he's a good person before you ever let him in.  (OK, sorry to sound like your mother.)

 

Just from what I know about abusive types, they usually let their bad behaviors out bit by bit, so you're emotionally hooked before you realize how bad they are.  He had to get you used to the idea of one thing before he went further into it--see what I mean?  He's just SO controlling.  You will probably find that his push for control will extend into all areas of life, not just the bedroom.  He sure doesn't sound like a fun guy to be around...but maybe it's just me.  Some of it is OK, but I hate being told what to do.  How about you?

 

It sounds like you are seeing the red flags and that is good.  It's always nice to have someone else's perspective, isn't it?

 

Take care.

 
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July 27, 2007, 6:42 pm PDT

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Yea i told 2 other guys i talk to cause towards begionning of this year  he had said things to me that i thought were odd and to me didnt sound right. He never called me a bitch, it was the word stupid that he called me over something, but he also did bring up like a week ago that he's gonna buy me a collar and maybe a leash i said (your gonna treat me like a dog? all i remember him saying was So)   I didn't like that  idea when he said it. I looked up to find out what that is and it sounds like is called sexual humiliation which didnt sound like fun to me. He has said would tie me up to during sex and i have told him i do same thing to him, but he would nag to me what i would wanna do to him so i thought of stuff. If i were to i can't even say if i enjoy it, in away it doesnt sound like fun since all of this time he has acted out and of things he has said.

 

Yea, it would be nice to talk with her i have no way of getting a hold of her plus she lives like 4 hours or so away. They were on and off quite a bit, im gonna guess they got back together 5 times i know 2-3 times when they got back together it was short.  I still live at home with my parents so there's no way. Im the type that has to see or feel the guy to do something to me before i let it go even if it means me getting burned. Not saying like abuse, but like he ties me up or does a sexual foreplay to me that i dont like i tell him i dont wanna do it anymore, but he disagrees. If he were to keep getting mad when i say i don't wanna come over cause he wants sex things like that it will start rub me the wrong way and then i think i wont want to have anything to do with him anymore. It has happened before with other guys, but not that stuff.

 

I don't like being told what to do either and i really don't like telling other people what to do. Im more of the type that if i say im gonna do something i will or if i feel like doin something on the inside i'll think about it and then i'll do it all depending on what it is and how much i gotta think about it before hand. Same thing goes for people im around if you say your gonna do something that takes alot of thought, not much thinking or none at all i say go for it do what you want. 

 I like to know other people's opinions alot

 
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July 28, 2007, 8:47 am PDT

FigureitOut

So is this where you ve been hiding?

 Hello 





 
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July 29, 2007, 11:51 am PDT

hey

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I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I'm wondering if you have gone to counseling about your lack of trust, fear of intimacy, etc?  If you don't get to the bottom of it, it will cause problems in one relationship after another.  A lot of us have childhood issues that need to be dealt with when we're older, so it's nothing to be ashamed of.  I grew up with abuse and I've been in counseling many times.  It has contributed to my choosing the wrong types of men--abusive, controlling, etc.  You're still young, so I hope you will get help before you have to go through years of unhealthy relationships.

 

OK, now that that is out of the way....  You said the guy is sexually aggressive.  I think he just wants sex and it won't matter to him if you're a virgin or not.  How long have you known this guy?  How long has he been sexually aggressive?

 

His calling you a tease when you are just waiting for sex is not a good sign.  You say you're not teasing him and I believe you.  I've heard aggressive guys say this when they are just trying to make women feel guilty for not having sex.  I think that this guy is saying you're a tease so you will feel guilty about it and give in.

 

How often do you see him?  Have you told him already?  I would just mention to him that you're taking your time because you haven't had sex before.  Tell him that you need time to feel safe.

 

To tell the truth, I don't think you'd be losing anything if the guy did run for the hills.  He'd be doing you a favor.  Sorry, I'm sure that's not what you want to hear.  I'd just hate to have your first time ruined by someone who is so insensitive to your needs. 

 

Will you let us know what happens?

thank you for your reply. Ok i know this guy about 3 years we have been kind of friends. I am aware that he was using the your teasing me as a way to make me feel guilt and cave in but i toldhim you know i ain-t teasing you! he is sexy agressive or more said pushy to a point but I know he just wants sex and mainly that is what i want!

so i have thought about it  I am going to see him now in a few days and i said i have nothing to lose by telling him that i never had sex, and if he is willing to have sex with me and wait it out until i feel more relaxed great if not then i will just find some one else

cause i have figured out that that is the only thing i am thinking about

and it is becoming very exhausting and it is sucking the life out of me!!!!!

i know i will feel like a rock has fallen off my chest when i get this conversation over with

cause i am fully aware that i will make a mistake if i meet up with him alone and not tell him the fact

since if i would have sex with him and tell him nothing i would feel horrible!

so here goes nothing

i think when he hears the way the situation is that he will change his behavour towards me

and he will say i-m sorry i just do this or he will say wow ok i will slow down until you are ready

we talk here and there and we saw each other about 4 times since

i was avoiding him since it really scared me how sexually i was attracted to him

since i never felt this sexually attracted to anyone ever

i got scared and mainl hided from him.

i know that i will feel better once this conversation is over between him and me

i will feel less menataly pressured and i think i will get less pressure from him

if he doesn-t stop pressuring me then i know what i will do

just leave i don-t need sexual guilt trips or pressure from any one

i am working on my fears on a daily base i am going now to a dr. who will help me ove r come and let go of my fears

i want to liberate myself and move on

 

 
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July 30, 2007, 12:12 am PDT

Is This Normal?

and yes i will keep you informed.about what is going on! I am not sure if i am going to se him this saturday since i am doubting of going to this wedding where he is going to be since, i had a horrible car accident and i am kinda not feeling happy or safe going there!

so i think i am not going and i will move him to next week some where monday or some other day in the week!

this is not good my main thing when i go to bed and wake up is the thought of sex

what i am going to say how am i going to say it and i know that what ever i am sayin my head and what ever i am worring about will pass and i will not say anything how i imagined it!

the proof is that when i was wonder on asking my best friend is she having a love affair with this guy that i was making out with... now the senario in my head went really nice and smooth, but in reality i just had coffee with her and said he by the way i was wondering are you having a love affair with the same guy i am cause if you are i want to know since i dont want to have a love affiar with the same guy as you!!!

hahahah she was shocked and said no are you crazy i would have told you.

i told her well i wasn-t sure if you would have told me so i had to ask

and well things turned out better then i thought!

ok back to the real story

if i do decided to go to the wedding this weekend i will inform you

if i don-t i will inform you

so i will inform about the whoe situation

:)

love you all

 

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