Quote From: dee0123 Well, I'm sure you being a 'guy' it might be a little different than us women think..not sure...and NOT sure what Country you are from, but I've noticed some guys from diff. countries are very liberal when it comes to 'sex..so, with all do respect..I understand what you're saying..but, not sure I COMPLETELY agree with you..As a woman, I feel, I need to be careful..and I'd rather end it now, then get hurt..and learn later on..does this make sense?? Plus, there might be a age difference between us..and I'm not saying your looking for 'sex' yourself..BUT, still I'm NOT..I'm looking for a good man, with morals like mine, and as far as the 'sex part..well, FOR ME, that can wait..it's the closeness the feeling connected and respected is what I'm for..at least in the early stages..
I do see what your're saying though..That what a man, might what..it's just a fantasy..but, what IF it's not?? I mean, what IF he just likes to fool around..this man is 39..never married...no kids, nor does he want any..that's ok, because I had mine..here's a little info. on our friendship or whatever it is..
1.) first of all we haven't been out on a weekend yet..
2.) he's been gone 2 weekends, where he's been gone ALL weekend..but, he at least said that he had these plans before me..which is PERFECTLY fine..he does not owe me anything nor needs to explain..but, that's good he told me..the thing is: he goes away, and I don't feel he wants me to know that he's with another woman..just my feelings..and he goes away ALL weekend...and once, he said he went to the opera..so, I know it's NOT with a man..but, still that's ok..I just wish he could tell me..be open, like I have been..I mean, I won't even hear from him ALL WEEKEND, and he just says..he'll call Sun. night..?? IF he's sleeping with a woman, I feel he needs to tell me..I told HIM I would tell him..but, also, I can't do that..because, IF I DID...I certainly, wouldn't be seeing him..
3.) This talking about the sexual things online..to strangers..well, some of it is ok..but, I think the things he says, he kinda TOO MUCH, if you know what I mean..I mean, the man I'm going to be with..and have been with..would NEVER say things like that online..talking to someone in private sure..I would NOT be with someone, that talks of wanting to even experience with that kind of 'sex', because TO ME that's all it is..IS SEX..and I don't do that..I call it MAKING LOVE..but, again this is just me..
Yeah, he emailed me..because, perhaps he felt guilty..of what he is doing..I don't know..like I said, it's ok that he sees other women..but, NOT sexually! at least, he needs to tell me..so, I won't get that involved with him..and see others myself, in a 'dating' way..here's why I say this..
1.) 3 dates - and getting somewhat romantic, at least to me it is..in the movies, for instance..he was starting to make a move..he turned towards me and I got nervous..so, I held out my hand on his..and we held hands throughout the movies..then, he rubbed them..and went up my arm..and to my shoulder..and then, took a piece of my hair out of my face..so, he's getting MORE romantic towards me..and when the night ended, we kissed on the lips..
2.) he emailed me and said HE LIKES ME A LOT..he's a lawyer..and this is funny..but, he said I'm the 'front runner' LOL...but, I think I know what that means..when, I was gone on a 2 wk. trip, right in the beginning and after our first date..he called me while I was away..and he said, he really missed me A LOT..so, after all this..then, why/how can a guy go away..and not just give me a short call?? or text me just once?? I'm NOT the clingy type..but, when I was away..I did..text him and sent him a picture...and yet when he goes away he's really AWAY....GONE...
Like, I said I have NO problem with him seeing other women..at this stage I kinda expect it..but, having sex?? I don't think so..I mean, after how I FEEL we got closer on that 3 rd date...and how a man, can sex with another woman..I can't see..unless, he's really not that into me at all..then, IF that's the case..I have the right to know..
He had this older woman (he likes older women, and she's older by at least 20 yrs. wow) and he's been friends with her for 16 yrs..(she's married, but separated and never plan on getting a divorce, because of their adult children that are like in their 30's) and they became intimate in Oct..but, he needed her to get a divorce..IF they continue..but, she said she can't..and for him, to date others..so, he did..but, I feel he's seeing her still..that she can't let him go...and afterall, he does get sex from her..so, how can he pass that up??? he's NOT getting it with me, and I think he knows it's going to take awhile..
So, what to you all think about this??
Thanks for reading this
Dee
Well I do have to say I am from a country which is more open towards sex (I discuss it with friends (most of them are female btw) every now and then.
As a woman, I feel, I need to be careful..and I'd rather end it now, then get hurt..and learn later on..does this make sense??
Well it does make sense, no one wants to get hurt, me neither. We all want to have a partner with which we feel happy. No one wants that it ends if they are happy. But how do you know? If you don't go into the water how will you know if you can swim?
And even if it doesn't work out in a couple of months time wouldn't you want the happy times in between? If you stop now you'll never know what can or can't be. if you go on, at least you'll know if he's right for you or not.
The terrible feeling of ending in failure fades away pretty soon while the nagging feeling of never knowing stays constant for long. (believe me I know...)
he said he went to the opera..so, I know it's NOT with a man
Well I enjoy going to the theatre, and so do other men. I go all the time with my friends (though again they are mostly female), doesn;'t mean it has to be romantic
he's been gone 2 weekends, where he's been gone ALL weekend..but, he at least said that he had these plans before me..which is PERFECTLY fine
Is it? I mean your post says yes but in between the lines I read no. But why didn't you ask where he was going? Not in the interrogative style but in the enthousiastic spontanious you! (oh great where are you going then, who are you going with maybe put in an anakdote yourself here and there etc.) I mean your heads racing with all these thoughts now of what might or might not have happened, maybe he went on a fishing trip. (okay you don't have an opera there but it's a matter of speech...)
I mean, the man I'm going to be with..and have been with..would NEVER say things like that online
And well you have found a man that does, it doesn't mean that he'll go out posting what you might be doing in a couple of months. In a way internet has privacy too, even though everyone can read a post, if you don't post a picture online nobody will know who you truly are.
I was gone on a 2 wk. trip, right in the beginning and after our first date..he called me while I was away..and he said, he really missed me A LOT.
Well the difference is that you are gone and having fun and he is not in this instance. Now he is having fun and maybe forgets it Men aren't raised to be attentive and social so he doesn't think of you being home and forgets to call. Express that to him "honey I'd like it if you'd called saturday to let me know how it is there" or whatever you'd feel comfortable with.
having sex?? I don't think so..
And right you are if he is kick him out, I'd feel the same way
he does get sex from her..so, how can he pass that up???
Just like that say no he is not driven by instict he can (and should) say no. If he really needs it he can buy a dirty book or something.
But I guess that they ended it. They came at a crossroad either she'd get a devorce and they could go to the next level or they'd end it. And the've chosen to end it. Relationships have to evolve in order to work otherwise it gets frustrating (because one wants more then the other), boring or both.
What I am trying to say overall is try not to fill in the blanks for him but give him a chance to do so or let it rest a bit, this what ou are doing now will only make you unsure and give you sleepless nights.
xx Oet Gäöl
(I hope this helped a bit...)