Topic : 12/04 Heroin Twins: The Intervention, Part 3

   HE DIDNT BLAME THE FATHER!  HE JUST DIDNT ALLOW HIM TO GET AWAY WITH HIS PITTIFUL EXCUSSES FOR WHAT HE "HAD TO DO FOR HIS FAMILY" DOES HE AND HIS GREAT WIFE NOT GET THE FACT  THAT THOSE GIRLS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS HIS BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER. HE DID ADOPT THEM. DOES THAT MEAN NOTHING? DO YOU THINK THAT IF THEY GOT PREGNANT AGAIN AND THEIR BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER WAS INTO TROUBLE THAT THEY WOULD CUT HER OFF TO TO AVOID PROBLEMS FOR THE BABY? THATS NOT HOW FAMILYS WORK.  IF HE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING DOWN THE WRONG PATH, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INCLINED TO NOT LET THEM GO AND DO EVERYTHING HE COULD FOR HOWEVER LONG POSSIBLE.  THATS HIS JOB.  CHILDREN ARE OUR OBLIGATION UNCONDITIONALLY. I BELIEVE HIS WIFE SAID IT BEST' OFCOURSE I COULDNT LOVE THEM LIKE MY OWN CHILD, I DIDNT GIVE BIRTH TO THEM.  WHO IS SHE KIDDDING. THAT WOMANS SICK AND A LIAR. THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THE TWINS WOULD GIVE THEIR 10 YEAR OLD DRUGS. ARE THEY STUPID. THOSE GIRLS ARE BRIGHT AND LOVING AND HE IS A DEADBEAT DAD ONLY THERE WHEN ITS EASY AND FITTING HIS LIFE STYLE .  SORRY BUT THAT IS NOT HOW PARENTING WORKS AND HE WAS SUPOOSED TO BE THEIR PARENT.  OFCOURSE THE GIRLS MAY HAVE DONE DRUGS REGARDLESS OF HIS HELP, YET THE POINT DR.PHIL MADE IS THAT HE  NEVER EVEN TRIED TO HELP AND THEY WILL NEVER KNOW IF IT WOULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE NOW(PROBABLY WOULD HAVE).  HE IS SO SELFISH AND FILLED WITH EXCUSSES!!!! AND NOW WHEN THEY COULD BOTH DIE ( AND I DOUBT HIS 10 YEAR OLD IS DYING) HE STILL REFUSES TO TRY TO SAVE THEIR LIVES. TOOOOOO HARD DADDY?  TOO BAD. HE HAS NO EXCUSE, HIS WIFE IS A SELFRIGHTIOUS PERSON AND DR.PHIL SAW RIGHT THROUGH HER.  NOW THE WORLD HAS BEGUN TO LOVE THESE GIRLS.  THEY DIDNT NEED HIS PATHETIC SELF INVOLVED SOB STORY. GIRLS , WELL ALL BE YOUR FAMILY. THOSE PEOPLE ARE SICK, AND WOULD RATHER APPEAR TO BE GOOD PARENTS THEN ACTUALLY BE GOOD PARENTS.  I AM JUST SORRY DR PHIL DIDNT LET HIM HAVE IT MORE, I GUESS HE WISHED THAT IN SEEING THESE POOR GIRLS THAT HE WOULD FINNALLY STEP UP.  OBVIOSLY NOT. IT WOULD BE JUST TO HARD ON  HIS FAMILY YET ARENT OR WERENT THESE GIRLS  SUPPOSE TO BE FAMILY? I AM SORRY THEY HAD TO SEE THAT , YET ATLEAST WE CAN ALL RESENT HIM TOO.  ESPCIALLY HIS PRECIOS WIFE.  ITS NOT THAT UNCOMMON FOR A FATHER TO LEAVE WHEN HE FINDS A NEW FAMILY, YET HE THINKS HE HAS THE LUXIUORY OF BLAMMING THEIR DRUG USE ON HIS ABANDONMENT,YET THAT MAKES HIME LOOK EVEN WORSE TO LEAVE THEM HIGH AND DRY WHEN HE KNEW THERE WAS TRUOBLE A HEAD. IT JUST DOESNT WORK WITH HIS PICTURE OF WHAT IDEAL FAMILIES SHOULD BE. NEWS FLASH; IDEAL FAMILIES ARE A FAIRY TALE! SHAME ON YOU!!!!! 

This was a wonderful, insightful post.

People make decisions and, at that time, thats what they decide to do--no matter WHAT the circumstances. I am sure that when these girls were getting deeper into their very negative lives, Perry felt quite helpless to do much to change things. So, if he called, and IF they were home, would he have tried to have a friendly conversation with them? Or would they, in their "new" world, have found his sermons or advice a joke? (Think: girls, thinking they are cool...14/15/16 years old...) I think that the way they were mocking him, with their mother, that there are two very different "camps" here...The mother is far more guilty of neglect and "turning the other cheek" than Perry is.......She was THERE. Im kinda thinking that they werent about to listen to anyone.

Good luck to all of them now....I sure hope they get & KEEP their acts together. I think they have a lot to offer.

You two might have had tough times, but you had really good coping mechanisms.  Just because you had a lot of hard stuff thrust on you doesn't mean another person has the same strength.  I'm not saying they don't own anything in their decision to get lit.  I can relate to the low self-esteem issues in childhood and how they can make you feel really worthless and suicidal.  I can see how someone could turn to drugs to drown out the pain (like cutting for someone with an anxiety disorder).

OF COURSE, the Stepdad DID have some ownership in this because the girls already had some abandonment issues from the biological father bailing out on them, but once they weren't "cute" anymore he did the same thing to them-jerk.

Just like the dangerous doody-head your daughter thought would be a good dad.  He's got quite a bit of ownership into smacking around innocent children-that really screws people up.  He's got some kind of control issue and its HIS responsibility to admit that and get help-not the kids ownership that their dad abuses them-Last time I checked there was no circumstance that justifies abandoning OR abusing your kids.  THAT's screwed up!

You need to get some help, lady, because sooner or later, whatever's bubbling beneath the surface, the abuse, the arm, whatever- is going to find a way to peek its head out (repression).

It makes me so mad that people blame the victim when they really ARE victims! Unbelievable!  Is it the victims fault when they're stabbed, beat up, shot at?  Heck no!    Go back and take a course in psychology at the community college, because youre really far off base!

    I really do hope all of the best for these two girls. I only saw the show that aired today dec 4/06, and i was shocked by what i saw. It is so sad that any person out there has to go through that and live with that and not be able to notice what they are truly doing to themselves. But one thing that i wasn't to sure about is that I understand that they were addopted by Perry, and I can kind of understand them feeling let down by him. But at the same time i might of missed this on the first show but where is their real dad, if he is still around why didn't they bring him into this. I don;t think that it is fair for them to sit there and say that if he (perry) was still in their life that their life would be completely different. It may be different, but you can't blame it all on him. I think that they have to look more into their relationship with their mom. She is and was their nukber one parent, yes I know one parent can't do it alone but at the same time they can make all the difference in the world to them. I don't know maybe I am completely wrong, I am sure to lots of people I am but this is the way I feel. I was just confused of how a mother can sit there saying she has no problem with drinking, knowing also that no one should drink while pregnant let alone shoot up heroin. And she just sits there almost denying it, she needs to grow up and take charge of her daughters and not alow them to drink beer or shoot up. I think that yes the real father or step father should have been their for the girls. But at the same time I think that the mother needed to be strict with the girls. I meen really 15 and shooting up heroin thats ridiculous.