Topic : 12/04 Heroin Twins: The Intervention, Part 3

I just watched the show today (I tivo it) and I NEEDED to write a note on here on going through withdrawls.  First let me say that I am a big Dr. Phil fan, but very very angry with the way they treated her.  Nobody knows what absolute misery withdrawls are like unless you go through it, there is no other feeling.  I was on Oxycontin and Heroin for a long time, and this August just celebrated my 5th year clean.  If I was treated like the twin, I would have left.  You cannot have a meaninful conversation about your future while you are dope sick!  You need to get the drugs out of your system before you start your recovery, thats why most treatment centers put a patient through detox, with no contact with anyone else, until they are stable.  Only then can the healing began. 

By the way, to answer your question, I could not eat either.

Also, I know that this is a REALLY hard part in your recovery, it took my body about a year and a half to get back to normal.  I would strongly reccomend not doing the methodone route, it is a very easy crutch...and methadone makes you more dope sick than other opiates.  I feel like it is trading one addiction for another.  I have been counseling since I have been clean and sober, and I have seen so many people become addicted to methadone, because we are addicts, and always well be. If one works, two will be better. Its best just to do it on your own, and you will feel better not having to depend on a pill to make you function....Isnt that why we got away from drugs in the first place? 
Anyway, keep up the good work.  It is the hardest thing you will ever do, but life is so much better without having to rely on something to get you going...but yourself.

I married a man with severe substance abuse problems thinking I could help change his ways. After our daughter was born I realized that he wasn't going to change and moved out. When my daughter was 7 I married  a man who didn't use substances. Unfortunately, when my daughter was 14 she began using alcohol and drugs and her stepfather left after dealing with the situation for almost 2 years. She was hurt and angry and her drug use increased. I had to file a petition with the courts to get her into rehab and counseling. After several rehabs and a group home she still used drugs and alcohol. When she was almost 17 she asked the court to allow her to live with her father and it was approved. So she and her father continued to use substances. She met someone through him and continued to use more. She had 2 children with her partner and continued to use drugs. Those 2 children came to me because she wanted to get herself straightened out. While I had her children she had 2 more children and then she was arrested and sent to prison for selling heroin. While in prison the children who were in foster homes were adopted. When she got out of prison she used for a while and then started to straighten out. She got her GED and started to work at a good job. Unfortunately, she took something to help her calm down one day and it made her sick. After a week in a hospital she died. Now the children I have are young teenagers, in a town that has inadequate schools and little to offer teens for positive directions. Many of their friends are users and I worry that they will do the same. With two parents who were abusers, the odds are against them. They lack self esteem and have changed over the past year. They just don't care about themselves or anything else. I feel like I am reliving past events and I worry about them. I've gone to the court to ask for help for them.

Watching the twins on the show made me angry and sad. People make choices and have to take responsibility for the consequences. I can understand their anger at their stepfather for leaving but their mother might have been able to do more to help them. But at some point the twins have to take responsiblity for the actions and accept the consequences. They are the only people who can do it, nobody else can do it for them.  I wish them all the best and hope they have the strength to continue to make progress.

That would be nice if the twins shared your heart. We do not know what decision we would have made or all the circumstances behind this. Seems to me the Mom was more of a friend than a parent.........and this man deserved to protect his other family......which the twins have no respect for. I think the twins would have written a poem like this;

We loved and you and missed you Daddy until you came to see us,

We through your dogs away becuase Mom made an ugly fuss.

The other woman you have is a control freak and your pussy whipped,

Mom said that last night over the beer she let us help her to sip.

We wanted to have a Dad in our life that would always love us like you use to do,

We thought we had one until you failed us by laying down rules and regulations to name a few.

The dogs you gave us where cute and cuddly in their own juvenile, childish way,

But the money you spent on them would have been a better gift so we threw them away.

I'm off to rehad now and can't wait to make progress and hope I'll soon get out,

Dr. Phil cautioned Mom not to drink with us, gee what do you think that was all about?

when you adopt children you dont throw them away when you see they have a problem,you try to fix the problem,

WOw you have had a rough emotional life. My sister and I use to both be addicted to Meth. I havent used in 6 yrs. I then found out recently she was on heroin and she looks so skinny. My childhood friend ODed 2 yrs ago from heroin so I was scared this was going to happen to my sister. Thankfully she moved but now I just think is a trade for a trade. SHe is probably doing something else.

But, wow you must be really strong

I agree that stepfather and Rene were slammed. It was not right. The twins made BAD CHOICES and if anybody their mom is responsible the most. She is in denial and has drinking problems. I really understand Rene. She was about to become a mother when problems with the twins started. I have become a mom recently. If you become a parent you become very protective over your child and your primary goal is the child's safety. I would never let my child to be around heroin addicts. Rene, you were NOT responsible for the twins. You did the right thing trying to protect your child. It is also questionable whether the involvment of step-father would have made a diffrence. Nobody knows it. I agree that twins have to OWN IT.

I had a rough dhildhood as well and I struggle untill now because of my past.  However, I did not turn into drugs.

I do hope that the girls will take an advantage from this wonderful opportinity that was given to them and get control over their lives.