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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:22:29 pm
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Kids across the country are playing pranks and harassing teachers. Tericka, a high school science teacher who loved her job, lived in fear of her scandalous past catching up with her and getting her fired. Students eventually found out about her shocking past and the news spread throughout town like wildfire. Are other teachers taking her side, or do they feel her punishment was justified? How can she move forward? Then, Anna, an assistant principal, was harassed on the Internet when two students created a fake MySpace page alleging to be her. She says they completely attacked her character and need to be held accountable for their actions. Was this just a practical joke gone bad, or were these students out for revenge? Find out what Anna did to show these kids that some jokes just aren't funny. Could the mischief your kids get into end up costing you thousands of dollars? Talk about the show here.

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December 8, 2006, 7:59 am PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: crdolan

i cannot articulate enough my utter disgust for what is going on concerning the situation between this teacher and these students.  it scares me to think that an educator and disciplinarian, who is supposed to care about the youth and teach them the difference between right and wrong, is willing to ruin a childs life over nothing more than a prank gone wrong.  A fake myspage page should not be the deciding factor in this childs life.  she is being overly dramatic and acting like a child herself.  i agree that something should be done, some actions should be taken, but to label these boys for the rest of their lives as felons is rediculous.  I honestly believe that she is asking for money simply for moneys sake, i doubt that anyone is following her or even thinking about her at all.  Would she send her own children to jail for something as trivial as myspace?  i doubt she can answer that question with a "yes" and a straight face.  the punishment does not fit the crime, if you steal a candy bar you should not go to jail for life.  we've all made mistakes, very few of which should follow us for the rest of our lives.  think about your children, think about them not having a future because of a website, remember that you taught them about sticks and stones.

I surely hope that you are not a parent. Just because she is a teacher does not mean that she has to put up with what thses boys did.  Today you can go to jail for stealing a candy bar and there is a big difference between that and stealing someone's reputation.  Would you feel the same way if it was your reputation, life, and peace of mind that was put in jeopardy. I don't think you would.  These children need to be hels accountable for their actions.  She is not being childish, what she is doing is trying to make them accountable for what they did.  Obviously their parents have no intention of doing so.  No teacher should be put in the position that she has been put in.  I applaud her for taken action.  Through her actions hopefully no other teacher will be put through this!!!!!!!  Stick and stones is a line of garbage.  It has been proven that names do hurt us and follow us through life coloring our actions!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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December 8, 2006, 8:01 am PST

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I would be fully dressed talking about this particular topic on the show.  I have modeled and have been partially dressed. My pictures have been public. We all make decisions in our lives. I would never, ever do porn and then think I could teach.  We make choices in life, and sometimes we need to not be selfish. If you are looking to be a leader and teacher, you need to be an example of that.  It has never worked to say, do as I say and not what I do.
i did however forget to ask you ? what part of this woman was not fully dressed?if you are refering from her knees down then i would say if this is offencive then no woman be allowed to dress this way!
 

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December 8, 2006, 8:08 am PST

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Ok for the Myspace story.

To be honest, I go to the very school of that administrator along with those boys, and have also known them for quite some time.  And wouldn't be surprised if my parents too get sued for "negligence" and "unsupervision" for me being on a Dr.Phil website.  However, I must say that I do not agree with anything Anna says.  In other local news stories, both she and her lawyer claim that many students at our school had seen the webpage.  My friends and I, who also have myspace accounts, had no idea such a page existed until there was a big deal about it in the news.  I also do not recall any type of survey submitted around campus, so their aforementioned statement is most inaccurate.  I also do not like how Anna fails to leave her emotions at the door.  I find it to be very unprofessional and believe her actions create a negative image of our school and district.   I completely disagree with the lawsuit, because I find it hard to believe that we have come to a day and age where we can sue eachother's parents for things that we do not like.  She is clearly in it for income, and her reasoning is not adequate in the least.  If she is not happy with her current income, I suggest she either find another job, or deal with what she has, and leave students' parents alone.

obviously these boys are your friends and students always band together against teacher and adminstrators.  Think about this for the next 20 years and then see how you feel.  Although lawsuits do include money most are filed because of the priciples involved and not for the money.  You do not know how many people did or did not see that website but that amount of people who have seen it is not the point.  It only takes one person seeing it and believing it to ruin her reputation.  Of the people who did see it how many repeated what  they saw to their friends, who repeated to their friends, and so on.  It is not that they were on a website it is what they wrote on that website and the fact that they were posing as her.  We don't get sued for disagreeing,  we get sued for slander.
 

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December 8, 2006, 8:12 am PST

What is going on !

I am appalled at the response in favor of this teacher returning to teaching! I would never want or even permit my children to be taught by some one that has been in a pornographic film! I find it hard to believe the response! I don’t think that most people have considered all the possibilities in allowing a person to teach their children and the possible repercussions. !
 

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December 8, 2006, 8:24 am PST

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I used the wrong word.  Everyone has been saying prank so that's what I used.  They did a very heinous act and should be punished.  Just not forever.  One day these boys will be grown men and probably and a wife and children.  Should they still be punished then?  What if they want to be teachers themselves and they can't because of the felony on their record?  They can't support their family because of a MALICIOUS ACT they did when they were young.

How long should this boy have to pay?  No one is saying to let him off and not punish him, but to what extent?
 If they broke any other law no one would be asking if they should be punished for the rest of their lives.  Anna will suffer for the rest of her life because of their actions.  A crime is a crime.  They knew when they decided to impersonate her that it was a crime.  No one seems to be giving these kids any credit.  As a mother of 3 teenagers, I can tell you that they are far more intelligent that people think they are.  They also probable know more laws and more law then you or I.  The punishment should fit the crime.  WHAT THEY DID IS A CRIME!! They knew this while they were doing it, they just did not care.  THEY ONLY CARE NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT!!!!
 
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December 8, 2006, 8:34 am PST

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Did Jesus spend his time among sinners?
the answer to that question would be yes, and with not only  sinners was that time spent, he also healed the sick and maimed,he gave sight to those who could not see,he healed the crippled and made them walk,[ he also walked on water] but back to your qestion did he spend his time among sinners, not only did he spend it with them he taught them how not to sin anylonger as well
 
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December 8, 2006, 8:41 am PST

You said it better than I could

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I feel really badly for this lady.  I cant beleive none of the other teachers  have NEVER done anything in their past  that could mak ethen a negative roll model!

 

I agree that  this woman made mistakes in the past, but she was medically ill! she was a non medicated bi polar and an alcoholic no one could say she was thinking straight, the poor ladies chemicals were so out of balence. 

 

And the kids, no what the heck were they doign with Porn any ways! If you ask me thats bad parenting allowing your children to have that in their possesion.  and how did they just happen to stumble apon the one that their teacher was in? were they purposely out to destroy her reputation??? just seems liek a bit too much of a coincedence  25 tapes in the course of how many MILLIONS of types of porn videos are there??

 

 I'm sorry but as a 25 year old woman I have NEVER looked up to the goodie two shoes, know it all teacher.  and even on TV shows the student/patient  whom ever ALWAYS relates and confides in some one who has shared the same experiences. 

 

Wouldn't this woman do more good as a roll model by sharing her secret?  I'm not sayign advertise her self as a porn star I'm saying sharign her sotry of alcohol abuse and illness and prove to people (students) that it doesnt' matter HOW deep you are in you can go to school become a teacher, turn your life around, and be one of the best teachers out there!  who knows maybe she could save some lives!!!  Maybe there is that teenaged girl out there that  she coud lsave from a life or pornography and a life of alcohol ism.........but if she isn't given the chance we will not know!!!!

 

If docors and Lawyers are aloud  to still practice after stippign to pay their way through school , trust me any one who has BEEN into a strip club can agree that is not much better!  Should we take children away from mothers who have stripped in highschool or college b/c they were kicked out by their parents, or lost in their own lives?

 

grow up , we always say leave the past IN the PAST.  People are afraid of the tabboo, and they are afraid of what others may think.  get over it stand up for what is right, and letting this woman tell her story  that is what is right!

First, we ALL have done things in our pasts that were, at the very least, stupid, sometimes illegal (even if we weren't caught), and most of us weren't unmedicated bipolar/alcoholic and desperate.

 

Second, your thoughts in the third paragraph had occurred to me as well, especially considering that the films in question were over a decade old. Either it's the funniest coincidence, or somebody (perhaps an adult with an ax to grind??) went looking for it.

 

Third, I fully agree with the majority of posters that the powers that be missed a golden opportunity to present a "teachable moment". Why not, since the story and the evidence are out there, going forward, meet the issue head-on Day One of the school year (yes, I did it, I'm not proud of it, it has cost me in many ways, better to not go there at all, but even if you do, all of that can be overcome if you don't quit on yourself) and make it clear that it WILL NOT be discussed in class again. I could not help thinking that the former male colleague was thinking of himself as much as the "hormonally-driven" students when he made the remark that the porn would be in the forefront of their minds

 

I have a couple of things to add. First, would their collective panties be in such a wad if the offense in question were not sexual in nature (eg, shoplifting caught on camera, video of drunken revelry during a past Spring Break in Cancun)? If the teacher in question were a MAN who had been a Chippendale dancer and "performed" in the movies, would the trigger have been pulled so summariily? Or, are we so enamored with the idea of "stone the fallen woman" that that's the "family value" we want to transmit to the next generation? 

 

I'd like to remind the "Christian family values" crowd, that not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES in the Gospel accounts Jesus forgave "fallen women" (the woman/prosttitute who anointed His feet [Matthew 26; Mark 14; Luke 7], the woman caught in adultery [John, I think], and the Samaritan woman at the well who told her community [John 4]). "Go, and sin no more." For how long does one have to "sin no more" to be considered a respectable member of society, or do people like Tericka have to wear the scarlet letter for the rest of their lives?

 

As a footnote, the current issue of Newsweek has a piece on how candid video shot on cell-phone cameras in winding up on the Internet with a lot of unintended consequences. It brings up the chilling aspect that it isn't "Big Brother" that is watching, we need to worry about "little brother." How many of us, regardless of our profession, can really stand up to the possibility of that kind of scrutiny 5, 10, 20 years from now?

 

 

 
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December 8, 2006, 8:53 am PST

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 If they broke any other law no one would be asking if they should be punished for the rest of their lives.  Anna will suffer for the rest of her life because of their actions.  A crime is a crime.  They knew when they decided to impersonate her that it was a crime.  No one seems to be giving these kids any credit.  As a mother of 3 teenagers, I can tell you that they are far more intelligent that people think they are.  They also probable know more laws and more law then you or I.  The punishment should fit the crime.  WHAT THEY DID IS A CRIME!! They knew this while they were doing it, they just did not care.  THEY ONLY CARE NOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT!!!!
i must agree with you in saying they truly seem to only be sorry they got caught, they knew what they were doing was wrong,what they didnt know is the i-s-p address from which they were doing it from could be tracked back to them, they thought no one could ever prove it was there doing, had they really been sorry for there deed, they would have removed it from the net on there own, they did not do this,there punishment must fit the crime they commited, and they should never be allowed to use a computer again,in this day and time those kids really need to be thankful for this woman doing her part to teach them what they did was wrong,shes having to do what there parents failed to do!
 
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December 8, 2006, 8:53 am PST

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I am appalled at the response in favor of this teacher returning to teaching! I would never want or even permit my children to be taught by some one that has been in a pornographic film! I find it hard to believe the response! I dont think that most people have considered all the possibilities in allowing a person to teach their children and the possible repercussions. !
People grow and change from pasts that they regret.  I know so many people who did so many things in their past which, while they were not in any porn films, they were still highly ashamed of and disgusted by, their actions.  Enough so, that they turned their lives completely around and reinvented themselves.

The difference between this teacher and other people, though, is that other people don't have neon lights around their past actions.  They are allowed to grow up and move on. 

Had this woman's past not been outed, emphasized and underscored by a bunch of (let's face it) bullies, nobody would have known or been able to tell the difference and people would be applauding her for being such a good teacher.

 
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December 8, 2006, 9:19 am PST

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First, we ALL have done things in our pasts that were, at the very least, stupid, sometimes illegal (even if we weren't caught), and most of us weren't unmedicated bipolar/alcoholic and desperate.

 

Second, your thoughts in the third paragraph had occurred to me as well, especially considering that the films in question were over a decade old. Either it's the funniest coincidence, or somebody (perhaps an adult with an ax to grind??) went looking for it.

 

Third, I fully agree with the majority of posters that the powers that be missed a golden opportunity to present a "teachable moment". Why not, since the story and the evidence are out there, going forward, meet the issue head-on Day One of the school year (yes, I did it, I'm not proud of it, it has cost me in many ways, better to not go there at all, but even if you do, all of that can be overcome if you don't quit on yourself) and make it clear that it WILL NOT be discussed in class again. I could not help thinking that the former male colleague was thinking of himself as much as the "hormonally-driven" students when he made the remark that the porn would be in the forefront of their minds

 

I have a couple of things to add. First, would their collective panties be in such a wad if the offense in question were not sexual in nature (eg, shoplifting caught on camera, video of drunken revelry during a past Spring Break in Cancun)? If the teacher in question were a MAN who had been a Chippendale dancer and "performed" in the movies, would the trigger have been pulled so summariily? Or, are we so enamored with the idea of "stone the fallen woman" that that's the "family value" we want to transmit to the next generation? 

 

I'd like to remind the "Christian family values" crowd, that not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES in the Gospel accounts Jesus forgave "fallen women" (the woman/prosttitute who anointed His feet [Matthew 26; Mark 14; Luke 7, the woman caught in adultery [John, I think, and the Samaritan woman at the well who told her community [John 4). "Go, and sin no more." For how long does one have to "sin no more" to be considered a respectable member of society, or do people like Tericka have to wear the scarlet letter for the rest of their lives?

 

As a footnote, the current issue of Newsweek has a piece on how candid video shot on cell-phone cameras in winding up on the Internet with a lot of unintended consequences. It brings up the chilling aspect that it isn't "Big Brother" that is watching, we need to worry about "little brother." How many of us, regardless of our profession, can really stand up to the possibility of that kind of scrutiny 5, 10, 20 years from now?

 

 

How right you are about the "little brothers" in our society.  Parents "wake up" and smell the evil.  There was a comment about teenagers being smarter, I don't think so.  Not very "smart" of them to cause harm to this teacher and who knows how many more will be hurt by the evil of the internet.  The internet has brought the evil that is within us all to sin.  We must also remember that come judgment day, they will be punished far worse than man could punish.  Bring back the "fear of the Lord" into the lives of children and their parents, and watch the changes happen. 
 
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