Topic : 12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:22:29 pm
Author : DrPhilBoard1
Kids across the country are playing pranks and harassing teachers. Tericka, a high school science teacher who loved her job, lived in fear of her scandalous past catching up with her and getting her fired. Students eventually found out about her shocking past and the news spread throughout town like wildfire. Are other teachers taking her side, or do they feel her punishment was justified? How can she move forward? Then, Anna, an assistant principal, was harassed on the Internet when two students created a fake MySpace page alleging to be her. She says they completely attacked her character and need to be held accountable for their actions. Was this just a practical joke gone bad, or were these students out for revenge? Find out what Anna did to show these kids that some jokes just aren't funny. Could the mischief your kids get into end up costing you thousands of dollars? Talk about the show here.

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December 6, 2006, 11:16 am PST

My thoughts exactly!

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Teaching is one of the hardest jobs out there.  I am very happy the Ms. Dye was able to turn her life around; however, I can't believe that while in college she didn't forsee the posssiblity of this outcome.  I agree with every comment you made, and I would not be comfortable with an ex-porn star teaching my children either.  Kids tend to choose the path that's easiest, and I wouldn't want a student to go down this path thinking they could turn their life around because their teacher was able to.  I think Ms. Dye is rare and has accomplished a lot and if she would like to continue teaching perhaps she should continue her education and teach at a college.

"I think Ms. Dye is rare and has accomplished a lot and if she would like to continue teaching perhaps she should continue her education and teach at a college."

 

I have teachers in my family. I truly understand how hard a job it is & how dedicated one must be to be effective. But she was an adult when she chose her path. I too would worry about the teens she was teaching seeing her as a full example. I also understand it is a gift.

 

It is one thing to be homeless due to bad choices but to choose porn as a way out is not okay if you choose to then be a moral example to children/teens.

 

I was thinking that joining a women's organization to help others could be far more beneficial.

 
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December 6, 2006, 11:17 am PST

wake up America

Tericka made a mistake before she got her teaching license.  And from what I saw on the show she has a mental problem.  That she is getting help for.  I would much rather have my children be taught by some one who made a mistake, cleaned herself up and is now making a difference.  Than one that preys on young boys and girls while they are teaching.  Everyone has a past and there will always be someone that will call you what you have done.  And to them it was not something a role model would do. 

I'm so tired of hearing "not my child" or "it was just a prank"  Well about 25 miles from my house some boys thought it would be a cute prank to put a fake deer in the middle of a dark country road to see  the car swerve.  One car lost control.  Now there is one teenager that has the mentality of a 6th grades due to brain damage and the other has had over 11 surgeries and is in pain for the rest of his life.  But this was only a prank. 

Parents must be control their children.  How many time, daytime stories, news reports and newspaper articles does it take to beat it into the adults head to take control of the computer.  What will it take the FBI breaking down your door and arresting your child for committing a computer felony?

 
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December 6, 2006, 11:24 am PST

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I am so sick of people using bipolar as an excuse for everything i know people who have bipolar disorder and they don't do stupid things.  In my opinion the teacher did the porno videos cause she was poor, desperate, and had kids to feed so she did what she new best.  It was easy money which is why did it again.   I Think she did good for herself and her kids by making better choices and she should be proud of herself but with that being said everything you do in life has consequences.    I have two boys and though they are only 5 and 8 If i heard of there teachers doing the same thing I have to omit I would have a huge problem with it.  What she has to relies is though its wrong for us to judge these are our kids and we have the right to decide who we allow around our children.   Though she may not harm them intentionally I as a parent could never take that chance.  Its sad but we as parents have to be judgmental and particular.  It's life.     Good luck and I hope all works out for you.

Tracy from Canada 

 

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December 6, 2006, 11:24 am PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Thats too bad for you because in todays day and age with the NEW INTERNET AGE that action would be considered a prank come on this is almost 2007 not 1957, true there should be some sort of punishment, suspension or something BUT COME ON REALLY thats what people arent getting behind the internet ITS A NEW DAY

So, your excuse for dismissing this principal's struggle with being put in real jeopardy by the action of these teens is because the year is 2007?

 

Well, actually it's 2006, not "2007" for 26 more days. And no, harassment whether on the internet, through the mail or in person is not only wrong but illegal. (That "illegal" part is a benefit of the "NEW INTERNET AGE". ) 

 
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December 6, 2006, 11:25 am PST

i must say if any one is smart enough to pose as another person on any web site<>

and surf the net and find porn to download and re upload to other sites, then there smart enough to use the very same computer to surf the very same net to make sure what there doing isnt aganst the laws man has in place to protect us all from these crimes,

 
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December 6, 2006, 11:28 am PST

Oh my.

I feel really bad for Terika. I don't understand how her personal life, especially in her past, is anyone's business than her own. I understand that she is teaching, and that is a public position, but firing her because she did something years ago is a bit overboard. I can also understand that parents want a good teacher for their child, but shouldn't one be more concerned with her educational methods and how well she performs her job than about something that happened a long time ago?
Yes, I believe students need a good role model, but why make the teacher a role model? I mean, when I was in school I looked up to my parents, and on the unfortunate side, celebrities.  Everyone in my classes weren't really concerned with the teacher. Unless they gave us too much homework but we didn't care who they were personally. We were more concerned about knowing whether the person could teach or not. I was taught by a teacher with a similar situation in the past and I admired them more for turning their life around, which I think is more important than anything. I know this is my own unique situation, but there may be other students out there that think similarly.
On the other side, if my parents found out I was looking at pornography of my teacher when she was 22, they would've punished my behind like there was no tomorrow. I would like to think they would be more concerned with me and what I did and my actions than they would about the teacher's.
I think that it is wrong for people to judge others, because we all are not perfect, and there's proably at least one thing some of us aren't proud of. I know I'm one of them. But all this is merely my opinion, and we've all got one :)
 
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December 6, 2006, 11:29 am PST

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I'm from the old school and I apalled by the action of some students today.  Teachers need to take back the schools and have zero tolerance for unacceptable behavior. Students need to be taught from the start that room for inappropriate behavior and that there will be serious consequences.  I believe teachers need to be fair and not provoke a situation and care about thier students.  Stop catering to unruly behavior.  As adults we have no one to blame but ourselves.  Administrators need to take action and move toward resolving issues.  Doing so

early on in a childs development should minimize potential problems.  When I was in school

there was respect regardless if you cared for the teacher and parents need to support the teachers.

Teachers need to take back the schools and have zero tolerance for unacceptable behavior.

 

Then the same needs to be true for teachers. Zero tolerance for their mistakes!

 

 

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December 6, 2006, 11:29 am PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Sounds to me like the parents are taking this way too lightly. Their children have ruined a woman's career, put her in danger, embarrassed her publicly, etc., etc. What if the shoe  were on the other foot. What damages would they seek from someone, regardless of age, that did this to them. You are accountable, by law, for your children's actions. If you teach them right from wrong and have showed them consequences before, they may have thought it over twice before doing this type of thing. You hear over and over to monitor your child while on the internet. Where were the parents when these kids were looking at porn and uploading it to a website?? Most schools have zero tolerance issues in place for this type of actions. I agree with the person who said "cast the first stone......"  Are these people so gracious and holier than thou that they have absolutely nothing to hide. They have NEVER done anything they regret or would like to forget. If they are these type, GOD BLESS THEM. How will they like it if 10 or 20 years from now, when this is all forgotten, to dredge it all back up again for these kids and plaster it all over a website? Today they made a mistake....let sleeping dogs lie. You cannot live in the past. EVERYONE makes mistakes. Once you have paid a price for it, it is forgotten, or should be. And to all others that hopefully will never have to scrape to get by.....are you going to tell me you would let your kids go hungry or without clothes and shelter because of your "HIGH" standards. I doubt it. You will do ANYTHING for your kids and you well know it. What this woman did was NOT illegal.  I personally have made wrong choices(not illegal) throughout my life. I AM HUMAN. If you have never made a wrong choice then you are not. I do however think that the children should be held more accountable for what they have done. Let them pay the damages awarded from their wages when they are able to earn some. The parents will pay, the kids will get grounded for a while and when the kids are older, they will have not suffered the consequences enough. Community work at a shelter might be a good teacher. Then they can see first hand what it's like to do without and have nothing or be willing to do almost anything to support your family.  I'm from the "old school". If you did something wrong, you got punished harshly. You were not grounded for a week or your video game system was taken away, etc. We had none of these luxries as kids. I'm not saying the kids have to keep paying till they are 30, but a harsh lesson is in order for them.

It is one thing to forgive a person's past behavior & choices, even when they choose to repeat it. It is another thing to place them in a position of influence despite those choices.
 

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December 6, 2006, 11:35 am PST

"Then you can cast the first stone."

This is such a weak argument. Because one may have made mistakes, they are then unfit to judge who they want in their children's lives? Who they want to influence their child?

 

If you feel a person can be a good influence despite their past choices, say so. That is a judgment you have made. But to then tell someone else they can not make their own judgments - i.e. cast a stone - is true hypocrisy! 

 
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December 6, 2006, 11:50 am PST

Very interesting

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Imentioned childcare books because, and hey its only an opinion, they all offer conflicting advice as do people like Dr. Phil and others, I didn't realize I needed to cite these things, Dr. Phil dosen't belive in say co-sleeping, where another positivly SWEARS it is necessary to raise a well adjusted child, JUST AN OPINION!!!!!   Instincts have nothing to do with PARENTING, I beg to differ there. Like ALL animals we do respond to a child in distress without thinking twice (or at least I would hope we do), all mothers LEARN rather quickly the difference between the hunger cry and the change me cry, that is instinct.  We KNOW our own babies form another, from their cries, and yes that is INSTINCT, and getting to KNOW our own children and accepting them is instinctual behavior.  Morals and values are good don't get me wrong, but who is one person to say yours are right and mine are wrong ?

If your school is being SPECIFIC about good vs. Bad touching , GREAT that is a good step, but that has to be reinforced at home as well, By the way, Tickling can be seen as a form of abuse as well, just to let you know, and no I am not citing sources right now.

As for the pat on the back, it has happened in my local schools and I am sure it has happened in others.

As for NOT being a choice to stay home, I submit to you the single parent, Guess all single moms should just stay home on welfare huh ? Or how about the working poor ? Have you NOT been around the families who are working for FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER and have little if anything left over ?  Yes we should determine the budget, but you know sometimes there just ISN'T ENOUGH no matter how hard you crunch the numbers, I concur there are those that work only to get the bigger house or nicer car, but that dosen't reflect the majority of duo income families, at least I don't think so.

You only CONTROL what your children are exposed to around you and in YOUR home, when they go other places, while g-rated movies are all you allow, another parent may see nothing wrong with pg 13, see its all in the opinion of others I guess.

The city of Halifax had tried UNIFORMS, and guess what, the PARENTS were the ones that screamed about individuality and freedom, a lot, not all mind you of the kids thought it was a good idea, white t-shirt with the school logo and navy blue cargos, nothing painful to wear at all.

But as for citing sources, you know what, there are very few who would take the opinion of a person they have never met, and therefore would do it anyway, go to any bookstore, it seems the info is endless, and much of it conflicting.

Have you read all childcare books? What's co-sleeping? It has been my experience that trial and error are how we determine what type of cry our children have for various things. It is instinct to cover up when we are cold, to eat when we are hungry and to protect when we feel threated. If it is instinct to accept our own children, then why are women killing and harming their children do the depression that can fallow after having a baby?

It does matter where you tickle a child and knowing those boundries are taught to us. If it is instinct that keeps us from doing the wrong kind of touching; then does that mean child molesters are a different animal species?

I understand that single parents have to work but they can surround themselves with like minded people that will help them keep their kids on the right track. As for the movie thing. Shouldn't the parents meet and talk about those kind of things before you allow your child to stay in that home? I wasn't talking about uniforms. Kids can still wear everyday cloths and not dress like hookers.

 

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