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Topic : 12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:22:29 pm
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Kids across the country are playing pranks and harassing teachers. Tericka, a high school science teacher who loved her job, lived in fear of her scandalous past catching up with her and getting her fired. Students eventually found out about her shocking past and the news spread throughout town like wildfire. Are other teachers taking her side, or do they feel her punishment was justified? How can she move forward? Then, Anna, an assistant principal, was harassed on the Internet when two students created a fake MySpace page alleging to be her. She says they completely attacked her character and need to be held accountable for their actions. Was this just a practical joke gone bad, or were these students out for revenge? Find out what Anna did to show these kids that some jokes just aren't funny. Could the mischief your kids get into end up costing you thousands of dollars? Talk about the show here.

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December 6, 2006, 10:24 pm PST

Teacher civil suit justified.

 I am not a teacher, but I am a parent. My kids spend a lot of time on the internet, and they were even at 8 and 9. I believe the parents should be held accountable for there children posting the myspace website. It is sad he will be labeled a felon, but he did commit the crime. The internet is a very dangerous place, and the vice principal was the victim of a crime. If the DA chooses to prosecute, that has nothing to do with her civil suit. Let this be a wake up to parents with internet access. These web sites are very accessible to kids, and can be used as weapons.
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:26 pm PST

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I work at a school and i see firsthand how impressionable these kids are, if young girls know a teacher has done porn they will fel like theres not a thing wrong with it, they will see that  here is a teacher who has done porn and they will think its okay after alla teacher done it.

I do agree that it should have been brought up in her hiring process however and since it wasnt then that is on them for not doing a  thorough hiring screening, although she didnt break the law and they hired her she should not have to suffer for it now.

iagine hiring someone with a felony charge? 

 

I'm sorry but I disagree with your summation.  I think if it was addressed in a straight forward manner & she was actually able to talk with the girls it could be used as a catalist to show the girls the *other options* she had that she just couldn't see at the time.  It could be used as a means of making them see that sometimes we need to seek help when all other avenues seem closed to us.  etc. etc.  I could come up with so many lessons taught from this woman it could make your head spin.  I was a smoker all during my kids childhood years & absolutely used it as a catilist as to how 1 stupid teen decision ended me up to addicted it was impossible for me to quit & how miserable it made me etc. etc.  They were so proud when I finally was able to quit & none of them ever picked up a cig.  Kids can be a lot smarter than we think we just have to talk to them not at them. 

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:26 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

I have a 10 month old son as well as a 16 YO. What I would like to know is WHY the kids had this video of the teacher to start with? I blame the parents. but then again. If we judge people only on what they have done in the past we have some issues. I agree that some things are not ok. (a past with violence for one) but this lady did NOTHING wrong. I think she is a great example to how to turn your life around & would let her teach my children. Besides if people are that judgmental of who should care for children then maybe I am not fit to be a mother I use to be a homeless drug addict! I am now 26 married & have more of a home then most people as well as being able to relate to my step son on the pressures that he faces daily.

 

I say just like columbine. It's Lack Of Parenting!

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:29 pm PST

Midwest Teacher

I am a teacher of students with emotional/behavioral disorders at the junior high/secondary level.  I was distraught to see Dr. Phil attacking a teacher for standing up for her rights as a human!!

 

School districts and teachers are constantly in fear of  "upsetting" the wrong parent and getting dragged into due process.  (Don't get me wrong, there are MANY times when this is a wonderful thing for parents to do!  Many parents are very justified in this!!! )  However, for once a teacher has shown parents that they can be held accountable by the courts too. 

 

As teachers, we must have million dollar insurance coverages from teaching organizations to protect ourselves from parents suing us.  Why shouldn't we be justified in suing parents for some direct attack on our safety?  Is Dr. Phil afraid that teachers will rebel and ALL start suing for similar or less severe offenses?  Just think of the chaos if we sued for all the wrong-doings we see parents inflicting on their children! 

 

Here's my questions to these parents:

Where were they when the video was being made? 

What did they immediately say or do when they found out about the video?  If they smiled, laughed, or even simply ignored it... there's a MAJOR problem...

WHY WHY haven't they spoken to the teacher they so gravely injured?  Speaking to her would show TRUE sincerity.

 

I don't know anything about the boy's family.  I wouldn't be teaching in this position if I didn't care deeply about families who have difficulty. Most parents work with schools and teachers on the best ways to shape their children's personalities and behaviors.  However, it gets increasingly difficult when SOME of these parents defend the inappropriate actions of their children. 

 

These behaviors and the response they get from their parents will feed into their success or failure in the future. Shaping their sense of right and wrong is critical to the development of their success as a contributing citizen.  It's absolutely imperative that families across the country see this show and realize that they have a responsibility to society and to their children above all. 

 

Stop making excuses.  If these boys were adults when they did this, the consequences would be much more severe.  The teacher who is suing will probably not win a huge victory, but it's the message her actions are sending that is so important.  She wants justice.  She wants America to wake up and take responsibility for its children.  WE ARE NOT OUR STUDENTS' PARENTS!!!!  WE ARE TIRED OF BEING BLAMED FOR THEIR MISTAKES AND THEN PERSECUTED FOR INAPPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT.  Give me a break America.  It's the courts decision anyway.  That's why we have a judicial system.  Don't punish a teacher for her reasons for taking them to court.  Let the court decide. 

 

 I love my job.  I love my kids.  I love my parents.  I even love my angry kids and angry parents.  I pray for them and myself every day .  I'll be adding this teacher, the boys, and their families to my list as well.  For now I'm very tired and have to get to bed. 

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:31 pm PST

Dear Anna,

Dear Anna,

 

What is it exactly you are afraid of??? I am sorry you have been embarrassed by this prank but I can't help but feel you are taking it to the extreme. Other then embarrassment or damage to your pride what damage have you suffered? Have you been attacked physically? Have their been threats? What? I'm trying to understand but I just don't get why you will be afraid for the REST OF YOUR LIFE???  Or how you can possibly use this to justify ruining a young boys future.  Yes what they did was wrong but what you are doing in retaliation is even WORSE! These boys should be punished in one of the many ways Dr. Phil advised and not in the criminal courts. This just makes people think all you want is money. If you get any money it will not come from these children but from their parents, one of which is a single mother doing the best she can. You refuse to accept their apologies or even consider that they are genuine and yet you expect us to believe your motives are genuine. I'm sorry I just don't buy it.  I think what you are doing is just plain WRONG and I don't think you belong anywhere near children who may be less then perfect.

 

10 years ago I was physically assualted. I chose to forgive and MOVE ON!   The only way you will heal from your ordeal is to do the same.

 

I wish you all the best.

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:32 pm PST

parent-school union

I think that action taken by Anna is too extreme.  No doubt - boys should be punished and should face SERIOUS consequences, but going to the court?

In my view, parents and schools should work as partners in educating children. Teenagers even from the best homes get in trouble.  Threrefore, school and parents should work hand in hand to deal with issues. It is frightening that schools instead of working wthin this union may be turning into courts.

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:33 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

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I use to substitute teach a few years ago..... please help me understand how it would be impressionalbe for the young girls to know their teacher was in porn.  I knew my teacher was a slut but it did not impress me at all.

 

When are we ever going to quit judging people.  No one is perfect.  She has cleaned her life up and should be commended for that.  We as humans are not perfect, there has only been and will ever be but one that is able to judge.  Let God do the judging and you be the forgiving one because he forgave you.  Did you never do anything that you have regreted?  Was you punished for that?  I would hate to think I was punished for all the bad decisions I made as a young adult.

Just because I tried  drugs as a teenager, should I not be a nurse? 

 

We need to start cleaning our own houses before we start to clean others!!!!!

If you used to teach then there is no way i should need to help you understand how impressionable young girls are,  you of all people should know this, mind you this women did it twice and then blames it on being bipolar, that makes it all right..
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:35 pm PST

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While I agree with your post in general I think you need to show a little more compassion. Just as Anna needs to show a whole LOT more compassion. I also think she is completely over reacting. These are kids and kids have been pulling pranks since the beginning of time. From the letters Dr. Phil read I do believe this student is sorry and that he and the others did not fully unterstand or intend for it to get this far. For Anna to do what she is doing shows she should not be teaching or dealing with children in public schools. She has absolutely no forgiveness in her heart. And for a teacher, at least to me, that is unforgiveable!!! 
 One thing I  learned in life is you really don't know how you will react in certain situations.  When my 7 yr old son was molested, a lot of people said they would just kill the guy...some were serious, so they thought. realistically, you can't kill someone in revenge. you wait for the state to sort it out or screw it up. Don't victimize the woman further for being a victim.  Removed? On what grounds?
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:37 pm PST

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If you used to teach then there is no way i should need to help you understand how impressionable young girls are,  you of all people should know this, mind you this women did it twice and then blames it on being bipolar, that makes it all right..
OMG...are you serious? I have a question, are young girls more impressionable than boys?
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:39 pm PST

Not Anna

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Dear Anna,

 

What is it exactly you are afraid of??? I am sorry you have been embarrassed by this prank but I can't help but feel you are taking it to the extreme. Other then embarrassment or damage to your pride what damage have you suffered? Have you been attacked physically? Have their been threats? What? I'm trying to understand but I just don't get why you will be afraid for the REST OF YOUR LIFE???  Or how you can possibly use this to justify ruining a young boys future.  Yes what they did was wrong but what you are doing in retaliation is even WORSE! These boys should be punished in one of the many ways Dr. Phil advised and not in the criminal courts. This just makes people think all you want is money. If you get any money it will not come from these children but from their parents, one of which is a single mother doing the best she can. You refuse to accept their apologies or even consider that they are genuine and yet you expect us to believe your motives are genuine. I'm sorry I just don't buy it.  I think what you are doing is just plain WRONG and I don't think you belong anywhere near children who may be less then perfect.

 

10 years ago I was physically assualted. I chose to forgive and MOVE ON!   The only way you will heal from your ordeal is to do the same.

 

I wish you all the best.

Anna has done nothing to these teens...these boys did it to themselves...they made a BAD choice, and now have to pay for it.
 
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