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Topic : 12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:22:29 pm
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Kids across the country are playing pranks and harassing teachers. Tericka, a high school science teacher who loved her job, lived in fear of her scandalous past catching up with her and getting her fired. Students eventually found out about her shocking past and the news spread throughout town like wildfire. Are other teachers taking her side, or do they feel her punishment was justified? How can she move forward? Then, Anna, an assistant principal, was harassed on the Internet when two students created a fake MySpace page alleging to be her. She says they completely attacked her character and need to be held accountable for their actions. Was this just a practical joke gone bad, or were these students out for revenge? Find out what Anna did to show these kids that some jokes just aren't funny. Could the mischief your kids get into end up costing you thousands of dollars? Talk about the show here.

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December 6, 2006, 10:39 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: mizgray

If you used to teach then there is no way i should need to help you understand how impressionable young girls are,  you of all people should know this, mind you this women did it twice and then blames it on being bipolar, that makes it all right..
BTW admonishing someone isn't a legitimate argument...it's just a way to avoid the question/point.
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:44 pm PST

WHATS IN THE PAST IS IN THE PAST

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If you used to teach then there is no way i should need to help you understand how impressionable young girls are,  you of all people should know this, mind you this women did it twice and then blames it on being bipolar, that makes it all right..

YOUNG GIRLS ARE VERY IMPRESSIONABLE.......SON IMPRESSIONABLE THEN THEY CAN SEE THAT SHE WENT DOWN THE WRONG ROAD AT ONE POINT IN TIME IN HER LIFE AND THEN MADE THE CHOICE  DO SOMETHING BETTER WITH IT THAN WHAT SHE WAS DOING.  ARE WE NOT TRYING TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO MAKE GOOD CHOICES....WELL SHE COULD BE SOMEONE WHEN ONE OF HER STUDENTS MAKES A BAD CHOICE AND INSTEAD OF KILLING THEMSELVES  BECAUSE THEY THINK THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE THEY CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY WELL  MISS  TAIKIA CHANGE SO I COULD TOO!!!!

 

I NEVER SAID I WAS A TEACHER, I SAID I SUBSTITUED WHILE TRYING TO FINISH NURSING SCHOOL AND IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING THING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH BIPOLAR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.  THEY HAVE REALLY HIGHS OR LOWS AND NO IN BETWEEN SO THAT IS SO UNFAIR FOR YOU TO SAY SHE IS BLAMING HER BIPOLAR FOR THE CHOICES BECAUSE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THE LOW TIME IN HER LIFE.

 

 

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:44 pm PST

well this says it all for you

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Any of you who truly believe that these kids didn't know the damage they were causing, needs to wise up.  Kids are smarter now than they ever have been, and parents are getting lazier.  They want the schools to raise their kids and want as little responsibility for what their hellions do (or don't do) as possible.

 

If you can't handle your kids, I'm happy to do it as their teacher, but don't you dare lay into me for teaching the brat that YOU created some accountability.  I come from the business world and made a career change to teach high schoolers ... for any of you who think the 3 months off during the year makes this job a breeze ... look alive people.  You're being ignorant.  If you had to deal with some of the bs that we have to deal with every single day of the year, you'd be reduced to having high school dropouts teaching your kids, because none of us college-educated folks would be stupid enough to take on the abuse.

 

These kids are WAY smarter than I was in high school, and I'm only 25 - only a few years older than my oldest students!  They know more about everything than most of their parents do ... it's the honest-to-God truth and the sooner you recognize it, the better off you'll be.

"I'm only 25"  

 

You have no experience & don't know what you're talking about.   I do I've raised some.  Are you saying that at 25 yrs old. that you think all the things you did as a 16 yr. old was right?  Are you saying you didn't do anything that you knew was really reckless or mean?  Mean kids are as old as time.  Teens are just plain born angry & always ready for a fight vergally & some physically.  You no longer relate because you're no longer a teen & think like an adult!  & here we have the difference between a 16 or even an 18 yr. old & a 25 yr. old.  This is why you can have a drink & they cannot! 

 

With that said..................

 

No one said they didn't know the damage they were causing or that they should not be held accountable we just don't think they should have to be charged as a felon for calling the assistant principal a lesbian.  She needs to get a grip & if she thinks that's bad just wait till her own kids are old enough to say what they really think.    I know a pricipal who daughter tells her to F off on a regular basis, has broken mirrors etc. & is now *labeld ADHD*.  I could have told her when the kid was 4 & she was letting her just go reckless abandon that this kid was gonna be out of control but of course she was an educator!  Just because 1 is a paid professional doesn't mean they're a good one & can handle a kid. & when they turn to teens they're just completely out of control then. 

 

As for your change in careers that was your choice!  If you've got an attitude going in those kids will eat you alive & have been since *I* was in school many years ago.  I reemmber 1 teacher who was made to cry on a daily basis & some times more than once a day.  Same students in different classes were just fine.  If it's too hot in the kitchen then get out. 

 

Oh & last but not least

 

"They know more about everything than most of their parents do"  No they don't they just think they do.  Someone who still thinks this IMO is still very immature in their thinking as well because you're still thinking like them  :)  sorry & don't worry it'll go away 

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:45 pm PST

What's good for the goose...

Quote From: purplepenny

BTW admonishing someone isn't a legitimate argument...it's just a way to avoid the question/point.
Is that true for Anna Draker, too? The boys should not just get an admonishment...that would be avoiding the point....the point being that what they did was a crime.
 

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December 6, 2006, 10:47 pm PST

A higher standard

I can empathize with this teacher.  She is to be commended for turning her life around.  However, with all the teacher scandles lately, with female teachers seducing students, everyone complains, "don't they screen these teachers?"  Parents want the school boards to "weed out" potential threats to our childrens' safety and moral development.  Commonsense should tell us that an ex-porn star would not be a safe gamble. 

The school board is given the charge of protecting the students.  We should commend them for trying!  Yes, it is difficult for this teacher, but she did fear this might happen some day, because even in her own mind, she anticipated that she would be let go.  She would not have anticipated that once her past came to light, that it would be shrugged off, and things would move merrily along.  What the school is doing is what parents would normally want and expect.

After seeing her plea her case, we can see that she is sincere, and she has a good record as a teacher.  Unfortunately, this has caused a disturbance, and most kids in that school will think of the porn video when they see her.  This is not something we want our kids contemplating while trying to pay attention to their school work.  Any caring adult would see that the kids' well being should come first. 

There should be something done about the boy(s) that started to show this tape around.  It is illegal for minors to have these materials.  So there should be consequences there.  But, this teacher is also paying consequences for the actions she took in her youth. 

Perhaps, the school district can find an alternative position for her that would be acceptable to her.  There are positions that would allow her to positively impact the lives of students, without risking distraction,  "daydreaming", or setting a president for future teachers with pasts that may be seen as a threat to the children.  If she is given a "pass" for this, then how can the school boards protect our children in the future?  A teacher may cry "foul", and "discrimination" if a school board tries to not hire, or dismiss, someone with a "high risk" past.

With the moral attack on our youth, with movies, TV, music, and media, school is a place that should protect them as much as possible.  Most parents do their best at home to protect their children from immoral influences.  A higher standard should be set for our students to try to achieve.  There have been too many bad influences slipping through the cracks and getting to our students.  Dr Phil always says, "the best predictor of future behavior, is past behavior".  There are exceptions to the rule, but how can school administrators be expected to predict which teachers ARE the exceptions and which are not.  If they accidently miss one, or let one through that DOES hurt a child, then everyone will yell "why didn't they stop this before it happened?" All they have to go on, is the past history.  Let them try to do the best job they can protecting our kids.

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:48 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: daisydevine

no matter how you put it the kid committed a felon. she did not write the law for what he did.
 
What exactly did "the kid" do to commit a felon?  Was it aggravated assault?  Arson?  Burglary?  Murder?  or Rape?  Perhaps "the kid" shoud be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and put to death?  This seems very far-fetched in my opinion but this IS the true reality of a felony conviction!!! 
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:49 pm PST

ummm yes she pressed charges

Quote From: springy57

Anna has done nothing to these teens...these boys did it to themselves...they made a BAD choice, and now have to pay for it.
and for felony charges
 
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December 6, 2006, 10:49 pm PST

What Suffering!

Quote From: sfobbt

Put yourself in her shoe -  You were defamed, your address was given, your personal safety compromised, and you & your family are humiliated.  The offenders & their parents did not talk to you about the offense nor apologized until AFTER you filed a lawsuit.

 

Figure it out people!

 

I understand Dr Phil is looking out for the future of the young offenders.  However, it is Anna's choice to prosecute them if she so choose.  Dr Phil should interview the offenders and their parents and decide if he wants to help them make a plea to the judge or jury - NOT to Anna.  She is only pointing out the problem -it's up to the judge/jury to dish out the punishment. 

 

She and her family suffered a lot of damage, why shouldn't she be paid for her sufferings?

Anna has suffered no more then any other public shcool teacher.  Should teachers take every student to court who have embarrassed or pulled pranks on them???  Come on, grow up Anna! This kind of thing happens every single day and good, caring and COMPASSIONATE teachers find other ways to deal with the problem. Why didn't Anna FIRST try some of the many ideas Dr, Phil had for teaching these kids a lesson? She wants MONEY!!!  And she wants to ruin the life of a child for REVENGE!  The sad thing is that these 2 things will not make her feel better nor will they allow her to move ON....

 

As to her being afraid??? Was she attacked physically? Was she threatened? She never gave a single reason as to why she was so afraid.  Her pride was hurt and she was embarrassed...............I'm sorry but BIG DEAL! She CHOSE to work in the public school system. Embarrassment and damage to ones pride is par for the course in that enviroment.  Maybe she would be better off teaching at a daycare. 

 

I am not trying to be insensitive to Anna and I don't think what the students did was okay by any means. There should be appropriate punishment and amends made to Anna. But she is taking this whole thing to far. To the EXTREME! As a victim of physical violence I didn't have the bitterness and revenge that is in Anna's heart even after a brutal rape and stabbing. I choose to forgive! Only then could I move ON...........................

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:52 pm PST

Tericka needs to adjust her direction.

 

   I feel badly for Tericka, however, I agree with the viewpoint that our children are too important to risk sending a mixed message by allowing her to continue her present teaching position. I think it is more important to give our children the message that behaviors do have consequences and that we hold the role models for our young people to a high standard. Are our children not getting enough exposure to sensuality and explicit sexuality in our culture without reminding them of it when they are trying to block out those distractions and learn?  

   Tericka, you obviously have a lot going for you. For the sake of our children, due to the circumstances which you, yourself have created, please steer your career in just a bit of a different direction. You can still use your talents and abilities to teach and I'm sure you will have great success, however, you won't have to wonder if your past has caused one of our little ones to stumble!

 
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December 6, 2006, 10:53 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

Quote From: purplepenny

BTW admonishing someone isn't a legitimate argument...it's just a way to avoid the question/point.
I was never here for an argument legitimate or otherwise,  just posting my opinion which i am entitled to just as you are yours..     The point is kids are going to feel certain things are acceptable, if they know their teaher has done it.   Porn is not acceptable to some of us.
 
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