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Topic : 12/06 Teacher Troubles

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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:22:29 pm
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Kids across the country are playing pranks and harassing teachers. Tericka, a high school science teacher who loved her job, lived in fear of her scandalous past catching up with her and getting her fired. Students eventually found out about her shocking past and the news spread throughout town like wildfire. Are other teachers taking her side, or do they feel her punishment was justified? How can she move forward? Then, Anna, an assistant principal, was harassed on the Internet when two students created a fake MySpace page alleging to be her. She says they completely attacked her character and need to be held accountable for their actions. Was this just a practical joke gone bad, or were these students out for revenge? Find out what Anna did to show these kids that some jokes just aren't funny. Could the mischief your kids get into end up costing you thousands of dollars? Talk about the show here.

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December 6, 2006, 11:33 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

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What exactly did "the kid" do to commit a felon?  Was it aggravated assault?  Arson?  Burglary?  Murder?  or Rape?  Perhaps "the kid" shoud be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and put to death?  This seems very far-fetched in my opinion but this IS the true reality of a felony conviction!!! 
The true reality is even people that recieve the death penalty  sit aroundfor yrs on end while the taxpayers take care of them, so heck yeah why not adda few more.
 
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December 6, 2006, 11:41 pm PST

Prank? where I come from we call that a crime

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Anna has suffered no more then any other public shcool teacher.  Should teachers take every student to court who have embarrassed or pulled pranks on them???  Come on, grow up Anna! This kind of thing happens every single day and good, caring and COMPASSIONATE teachers find other ways to deal with the problem. Why didn't Anna FIRST try some of the many ideas Dr, Phil had for teaching these kids a lesson? She wants MONEY!!!  And she wants to ruin the life of a child for REVENGE!  The sad thing is that these 2 things will not make her feel better nor will they allow her to move ON....

 

As to her being afraid??? Was she attacked physically? Was she threatened? She never gave a single reason as to why she was so afraid.  Her pride was hurt and she was embarrassed...............I'm sorry but BIG DEAL! She CHOSE to work in the public school system. Embarrassment and damage to ones pride is par for the course in that enviroment.  Maybe she would be better off teaching at a daycare. 

 

I am not trying to be insensitive to Anna and I don't think what the students did was okay by any means. There should be appropriate punishment and amends made to Anna. But she is taking this whole thing to far. To the EXTREME! As a victim of physical violence I didn't have the bitterness and revenge that is in Anna's heart even after a brutal rape and stabbing. I choose to forgive! Only then could I move ON...........................

What these boys did was not a prank! Its a crime.  A prank is something that everyone laughs about afterward.  These boys went on the Internet which is international media and defiled her in foul, disgusting, and lewd ways.  What they did is against the law, and if they think that they are adult enough to talk about such sexually explicit things, then they are adult enough to face the consequences for doing so.
 
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December 6, 2006, 11:49 pm PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

 On the issue about the assistant principle, I do feel she was violated and feel that the parents as well as the students should take action and apolize to her face and she will know that they are sencere. I dont know at all agree that taking them to court is right. I want to know what she has to be afraid of. The myspace account doesnt show any address or phone number. And it was only on there for a short time. Parents cant watch their kids all the times. And if she is that terrified of her students why is she a principle? Also if you can be that cold hearted to take it to court why would you want to be involved with children at all. She said in the show that she is one of the deciplineary assessors in the school does she forgive kids of what they do in school. Because being that I would think you have to have some forgiveness in yourself. Especially to leave it at an in school punishment and not let these boys have to deal with a bad judgement call the rest of their lives. I would hope that everyone would follow the steps of Jesus. He forgave and still forgives every day with no strings attached and I know that is what he would want us to do.
 
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December 6, 2006, 11:56 pm PST

You chucked the stone

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This is such a weak argument. Because one may have made mistakes, they are then unfit to judge who they want in their children's lives? Who they want to influence their child?

 

If you feel a person can be a good influence despite their past choices, say so. That is a judgment you have made. But to then tell someone else they can not make their own judgments - i.e. cast a stone - is true hypocrisy! 

The reference initially..was

 

*To cast a stone...why bother.  In essence, what is the use.

 

* I agree with the person who said "cast the first stone......" 

 

Stones hurt........  'This is such a weak argument' .The big difference is the judgements against  the teacher were hurtful and negative (i.e. stone).  I feel stones shatter into intolerance. My 'opinion'  is of promoting understanding, forgiveness, compassion and empathy. Cast a Stone is a GREAT analogy (not an argument).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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December 7, 2006, 12:02 am PST

Are you one of the boy's Mother?

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Anna has suffered no more then any other public shcool teacher.  Should teachers take every student to court who have embarrassed or pulled pranks on them???  Come on, grow up Anna! This kind of thing happens every single day and good, caring and COMPASSIONATE teachers find other ways to deal with the problem. Why didn't Anna FIRST try some of the many ideas Dr, Phil had for teaching these kids a lesson? She wants MONEY!!!  And she wants to ruin the life of a child for REVENGE!  The sad thing is that these 2 things will not make her feel better nor will they allow her to move ON....

 

As to her being afraid??? Was she attacked physically? Was she threatened? She never gave a single reason as to why she was so afraid.  Her pride was hurt and she was embarrassed...............I'm sorry but BIG DEAL! She CHOSE to work in the public school system. Embarrassment and damage to ones pride is par for the course in that enviroment.  Maybe she would be better off teaching at a daycare. 

 

I am not trying to be insensitive to Anna and I don't think what the students did was okay by any means. There should be appropriate punishment and amends made to Anna. But she is taking this whole thing to far. To the EXTREME! As a victim of physical violence I didn't have the bitterness and revenge that is in Anna's heart even after a brutal rape and stabbing. I choose to forgive! Only then could I move ON...........................

I think Anna should continue to pursue the court action!!  Dr. Phil dropped the ball royally on this one, with what all the kids are getting by with in and out of school these days.  And I lay the blame on parents who think they are being good to their children.  Have you heard of 'Tough Love'??

 

Anna has suffered no more then any other public shcool teacher.  Why should ANY teacher have to suffer??  They are there to do a job, and reading this board tells me there is all too much of it.  All of the decent teachers will leave, and who can blame them? 

 

Our former daughter-in-law is a teacher, and way up there among the best.  She is there for her kids 24/7.  And she gets lots of calls, the kids do love her.  She works in 'surburbia', not inner city.  One Sat. PM she was working at the school on the bulletin boards in her classroom.  She heard a strange noise, and upon investigation saw several former students of hers defacing the school, outside.  She went out and talked to them, they just laughed at her.  She told them that she will be forced to call the police if they don't stop.  They said 'Go ahead!'  Feeling she had no choice, as backing down now would not be fruitful, she did call them.  The police came with sirens blasting, you could hear them for blocks away.  The boys ran away.

 

On Monday she talked with the principal, and told him what happened, and who the boys were that were involved.  As it played out, the parents were called and every single boy's parent told him that their child was not at the school, and had told them they were not involved.  These were not dope users.  These were professional people who are accustomed to getting their own way, or as someone said, just write out an meaningless, unfelt apology and get out from under it.  They didn't even do that; just lied to their parents who believed them and not the adult teacher.  The dil stood by the truth, and the school board was involved.  The parents involved threatened to sue the school board, the principal and the dil teacher!!  The board and principal told her to back off or they will have to leave her go.  There was several thousand dollars of damage to the school, and she never complained, but I saw how badly they treated her!!  Her father was terminally ill, and she wanted to spend a few days helping her Mother, they told her come to work, or you will be replaced.  He died 2 days later, and she was deeply shaken by this.  I saw what this whole experience did to her, and I firmly believe that young people need to be taught empathy, responsibility for their actions, and just several more issues that are being neglected when you say, Anna has suffered no more then any other public shcool teacher.!!!!

 

Anna stick to your guns!  That was NO SMALL PRANK they did on you.  There needs to be some precedence set here, and you are no ordinary teacher.  You are in management.  You have the power to do it.

 
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December 7, 2006, 12:18 am PST

Teaching Wasn't For Me Either

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I am soooo glad you are no longer teaching!  I have been a Detroit Public School teacher for 19 years. Yes, sometimes it is difficult and frustrating. But because so many of the students are so needy I know my job is extremely important, and it is very rewarding to me. 

 

But, honestly, it isn't just a job.  It's a calling. And everyone is not up to the challenge.  Sometimes you have to fight the parents and the administrators to give the children what you know they need. And many times you're out there on your own, feeling like you have no support from anyone.

 

What you have to do is not feel like a victim; enlist the support of anyone who will support you, and keep pressing forward. Accept all successes, from the smallest to the greatest, and let the children know that you expect success from them. When you start to beleive you're a victim, you stop expecting success, and you set up the students for failure.

 

Just because a person has teaching credentials does not mean they need to teach children.

 

 

 What a true statement in your post "Just because a person has teaching credentials does not mean they need to teach children." 

It's true; teaching has to be a calling.  I thought I was called; until my student teaching semester.  Only then did I realize what a mistake I had made.  If only I had spent more time in a teaching setting prior to selecting my college major!!  I went back to college as an adult.  I had home schooled my children; and wanted to make a difference with other children via teaching.  Initially, I was so excited about "teaching" only to realize that it was not the "noble calling" I had envisioned. (Needless to say, lol, the students I encountered were not as interested in learning as my own children were when I home schooled them, nor were they as cooperative as the youth I taught when I volunteered in our church, youth group or sunday school setting.) I spent two years trying to deal with the stress, until I realized I didn't have the ability to deal with disrespectful students and parents, etc. etc..  My second year teaching, I spent  in a Catholic school; after my first year was teaching in a public school.  I thought the private school setting would provide a more structured and peaceful environment!!  Wrong!!  An interesting note; my daughter is in college, and after her own soul searching, she chose elementary education.  After two years of teaching at the Pre-school level, while attending college, she has decided that teaching is not for her either. She is entering her student teaching semester, and has now decided to attend Law School; she took her LSAT recently.  She found out because of her own experiences that she wants to do something else; the stress of the teaching, the lack of respect, etc. are too much.  This is a very talented, loving, capable young woman; professional and intelligent.  I am very glad that she is going straight to graduate school. God Bless the good teachers in the world.  My heart goes out to you.  It seems like a thankless job; I am glad there are capable and strong teachers out there.  I  didn't have the strength to carry on with the profession.  I happily chose to further my education and chose a different profession; I am glad I was able to find another career which makes me feel good about going to work every day.

 

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December 7, 2006, 12:19 am PST

good one!!

Quote From: paulahc1

My dad was a high school principal in the 60s.  My family endured phone pranks, threatening phone calls, and obscene phone calls.  We had eggs thrown on our only car.

 I came home from a date one Halloween to find F... YOU scrawled on our front porch.  I was home from college one weekend and was awakened by boys in letter jackets who were toilet-papering the house. I heard him called an SOB and I saw him mocked at a senior follies day.

 

When I was a teacher in the 70s and 80s, things progressed a little further. I saw teachers cussed out, mooned, and spat upon.  I had peers who had their tires slashed.  One of my students threatened to kill me for kicking him out of class for being high all the time.

 

The abuse of teachers has now progressed to an open season of public humiliation on the internet.  I am glad that this vice principal is standing up for her rights!  Perhaps other students will take note and know not to take it this far even if their brains are not fully developed.

 

Would veterinarians, computer marketing reps, nurses, financial planners, pilots,  or biologists put up with this kind of abuse without fighting back? If not, then why should teachers? 

 

I left the profession of teaching years ago. I am now a realtor and I make three times what teachers make today. Does that tell you anything?


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December 7, 2006, 12:36 am PST

myspace prank

Yeah, it was a cruel prank but I'm completely at a loss at how money from the parents will really solve anything, and even what damages she could claim: that "living in fear" bit sounded pretty ridiculous. Regardless, what those students did was horrible but it doesn't warrant a felony charge. Did she even punish the students within the school at all? To me Anna's whole stance sounds like a money grab, especially when she started laughing when Dr. Phil was listing off possible amounts she would be suing for.
Maybe she can buy a spine with whatever money she gets from the suit.
 
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December 7, 2006, 12:47 am PST

12/06 Teacher Troubles

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and for felony charges
Someone needs to understand that she wasn't the only one targeted. Her entire family for years to come has been targeted. Yes, the boys are young. Slapping them on the wrist is not the answer. In today's world there are few second chances. Many cities and businesses have background checks and she will be judged first on what they posted not what the reality isand she should not have to spend the next many years having to explain away what they did. Their reality is that they screwed up big time and it is only fair they pay as long as their actions will make her and her family pay and yes if suing them and their parents is her legal right she should go for it because in the future I'm pretty sure she'll need lawyers to help undo discrimination because of this.
 
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December 7, 2006, 1:09 am PST

What happened to Tericka is wrong

I can't believe that this lady was treated the way she was. I am a 4 year recovering drug addict. I have since gotten my life together and now am a probation officer. Should I not have my job because I used drugs? Do I think that any part of what Taricka did is right? Absolutely not, just like I don't think any part of my drug addicted past was right. All that I can say is that if I had not went through that part of my life and broke free from it I would not have became the person I am today. Your past experiences can make you a better person in the future.

 
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