Topic : 12/08 Out-of-Control Husbands

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Created on : Friday, December 01, 2006, 03:25:09 pm
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A marriage vow says, “’Til death do us part.” But what if your husband’s behavior is so outrageous, you fear he’ll end up in an early grave? Dr. Phil’s first guest, Danny Bonaduce, was a child star on the ’70s hit show The Partridge Family, but now he’s infamous for his bad behavior. Danny has been arrested for drug possession, has been in rehab three times and has cheated on his wife, Gretchen. The couple showcases their struggle with his addictions on the VH1 show Breaking Bonaduce. Danny says he’s finally sober, but Gretchen says she can’t stop being suspicious of his every move. Is it too soon for her to trust him? Then, Maggie says she can’t deal with her fiancé, Michael’s, chaotic behavior. Michael admits that he’s verbally abusive to his wife-to-be, even in front of their young daughter, but says he wants to stop. Maggie moved halfway across the country and took their child without telling him. Can Michael get his family back, or has he lashed out one time too many?  Share your thoughts here.

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December 8, 2006, 2:26 pm PST

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     Just because the victims know how to push the buttons, does that justify abuse?  My children know how to push my buttons but that does not constitute abuse to them.  My husband also knows how to push my buttons, but that does not mean I abuse him.  Also I watched the episode and I didnt recall dr. phil denying that the victim knows how to push buttons.  I understand that you came from a abusive home.  I am sorry for that, it sucks.
  Anytime you spend a great deal of time with someone one you learn what gets them fired up.  People use this information on each other for a lot of reasons.  However, in this case of a victim using it on a abuser, what is expected them to do sit around and take it with a big grin.  Fear keeps them there and maybe pushing a button or two makes one feel like they have a little control over chaos.  Understanding what it would feel like to be the victim or the abuser is at best easier said than done.  You don't fully get it until you have been there and even then every situation is different and has its different effects on people who are also all different.  So you cannot put a standard on things like that or even say oh well I have been through similar and presume to know where someone else is coming from fully.  Passing judgment this way just doesn't cut it !   You shouldn't throw stones  if you live in a glass house !!
 
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December 8, 2006, 2:28 pm PST

12/08 Out-of-Control Husbands

Maggie;

Thank you for having the strength to leave a man who was abusive, and not using the word "LOVE" to excuse his behavior, it was a refreshing change, you were making no apologies for your actions, and no excuses for his.

You left BEFORE he had the chance to convince you you were worthless and could NOT live without him, and your daughter will not have to grow up thinking that that's the way Mommies and Daddies are supposed to act with one another.  Your daughter will grow up knowing that as a woman she is STRONG and in charge of her own life, and No one can take that from her, because as her primary role model, you KEPT YOURS and gave her a chance at an abuse free life.

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Thank you

 
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December 8, 2006, 2:33 pm PST

Bonaduce

 I really hope the Danny will get it this time..... I live with the consequences of a husband who did not. I had the job of looking in the eyes of my two boys who were 6 & 5 at the time and some how finding the strength to tell them the truth about their fathers  drug overdoes death. The problem is that the pain does not stop there. The anger still shows up  years latter. After a great deal of help for all of us we are living a life that I could not imagined. I still do not have the answers to the many painful questions my children have.

 

It is too bad that you do not understand why you do  drugs and drink, it is because you are an addict. I hope that you can get through this. I know you can. I know that you can find recovery. I did and 15 years latter I am still taking it one day at a time.

 

 
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December 8, 2006, 2:40 pm PST

A good book to read

I too was with a drinker that verbally abused me far too often.   We had an off again, on again relationship for about 5 years and it was pure hell at times.

A co-worker told me about a book that really opened my eyes, my mind, then my heart.  There was one chapter that made me think there were cameras hidden in my living room.

The book: Getting Them Sober -you can help!  by Toby Rice Drews.

 

I feel you made the right decision in leaving with your daughter Maggie.   The 'problem' is his and he needs to own it an fix it for himself.   In the meantime, you and your child have the right to a life that is without his 'stuff'.      

 

Good going lady!!!!   My best wishes are with you!!!!! 

 

 
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December 8, 2006, 2:48 pm PST

OUT-OF-CONTROL-HUSBANDS

i HAVE LIVED IN AN ALCOHOLIC SITUATION BEFORE. MY STEP-FATHER USED TO BE VERY ABUSIVE TO MY MOTHER. HE NEVER TOUCHED ME OR MY SISTER UNTIL I WAS 24 YRS. OLD AND GOT TIRED OF IT. I TRIED TO GO FOR HELP AND HE GRABBED FROM THE BACK OF MY HEAD AND JERKED ME BACK. THAT'S WHEN I FINALLY MOVED OUT. I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE MY MOTHER OR SISTER, BUT MY MOTHER WOULD NOT LEAVE HIM. HE'S CHANGED HIS LIFE AROUND NOW AND I COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER FATHER, BECAUSE HE'S THE ONLY FATHER I HAVE EVER KNOWN. THAT'S WHAT HURT ME SO MUCH.  NOW I HAVE A BROTHER-IN-LAW THAT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE HELPED RAISE. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR TWELVE YEARS NOW. MY HUSBAND IS 31 AND MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS 33. MY HUSBAND IS MORE MATURE THAN HIS BROTHER. MY BROTHER-IN-LAW COMES FROM A LINE OF ALCOHOLICS. SOMETIMES HE DRINKS FROM THE TIME HE GETS UP TO THE TIME HE GOES TO BED. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT KIND OF PEOPLE MOST OF MY LIFE. I KNOW THEY DO BLAME THE OTHER PARTNER OR FAMILY MEMBERS FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS. THEY ARE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PUSH A PERSONS BUTTON THAT DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO LAY A HAND ON ANYONE OR CALL THEM NASTY NAMES. CHILDREN  WHO GROW UP IN THIS REMEMBER, THEN THEY START RESENTING THEIR LOVED ONES. I HATED MY STEP-FATHER FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR ANYONE WHO HAS SOMEONE WALK OUT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ABUSIVE. THEY ARE VERY SMART PEOPLE. I ADMIRE THE YOUNG LADY WHO STOOD UP FOR HERSELF AND SAID SHE WAS GLAD SHE LEFT HER FIANCE, BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENED.
 
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December 8, 2006, 2:51 pm PST

my daughter lived it

my daughter recently remarried, and her hind-sight shows her what we saw.  Her new husband is what a husband should be!  Her first husband never hit her.  But he had limited her phone calls (she lived out of state) to us and to her married sister to 10 minutes.  In the end, IN COUNSELING, he told her that she was an embarrassment to him and they would stay married, but she couldn't go out in public except for work, unless he, or his mother, was with her.  He had her convinced that we were against him and so she needed to hold up for him.  She would be "allowed" to visit us and go to church, but he would't go with her because he didn't like either. Luckily, my daughters are emotionally close, and her married sister finally convinced her she had to get away before it was too late.  He tried and tried to convince her that she needed to give him another chance, and I believe, if she hadn't discovered the first of many women, she would have gone back.
All of the warning signs of abuse were there.  Parents are usually the first to see it, but the least able to convince the abused.  In our case, thank God for sisters!
 
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December 8, 2006, 2:53 pm PST

Maggie

Maggie, you seem like a bright, beutiful women.  I commend you on leaving, I'm sure it was a hard decision to make in some respects, but an easy answer in others, like your safety and your child's safety.  I wish you and your daughter well.  Nobody deserves to be abused.  I was in an abusive relationship at 22 and had to move halfway across the country too.  There were no children involved, but I feared for my safety and loved myself too much to continue to be verbally and physically abused my that man.  I also had the loving support of my family and friends.  I hope you do as well.  You apparently have Dr. Phil's support...Good luck to you and yours. 
 
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December 8, 2006, 2:56 pm PST

out of control husbands

Having come through a very rough marriage and too many promises of change by my then husband..including aa, detox and mental health, I truly worry about that young mother. DO NOT think about going back into a relationship like that, with him or any one like him. You deserve better and more importantly you DAUGHTER deserves a better life. Too often women think they can't make it wihtout a mna, and they make some scary choices. You get counseling and stay true to your heart, not everyone changes or wants to... be careful.
 
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December 8, 2006, 3:05 pm PST

Who are YOU?

Here's the thing. Danny has made "Danny Bonaduce" into a character. The Danny that he knows is lost in the shuffle. He said it himself. He CAN BE either the maniac Bonaduce or the CSI actor Bonaduce, it just depends on who is paying him.  Most people get to be themselves act a part get paid and go home. Danny is stuck within these two characters if he is at home or not and thinks that he can only get paid being one of the two.

 

Listen, Money is a powerful thing. In order for the real Danny  to find himself again, he must let go of the powerful hold that he has allowed the "Money" to have over him. Right now he is acting in the way that "money" wants him to act. He must allow the real Danny to take back that control by not getting paid on the two characters that he has created but getting paid on the individual "roles" he has been hired to play.

 

Danny, What you said about being both the pro and the maniac is a lie that has somewhere been planted within your being. You, Danny are loved by so many! You have friends you have the strongest wife I have ever known, your children that you love and the LORD Jesus who created the you that YOU lost.

 

It is a big bad world out there, but it is OK to be you. It is OK to show the ugly world the real Danny. You MUST stop believing the lie that,  those two characters you think you are, are in fact you because I can see it in your eyes the real Danny begging inside for some one to call their bluff. The only person that can do just that is the real Danny.

 

In the words of Marshall Mathers, Will the real Danny please stand up?"    

 
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December 8, 2006, 3:19 pm PST

Getting out of an abusive relationship

As a young adult who recently left a mentally and physically abusive relationship, I can not agree more with Maggie deciding to leave her fiancée. As I have learned, the abuse will only escalate, and the blame is constantly on the one getting abused because “you pushed their buttons”. Only until I was threatened to be killed did I finally realize that I could no longer stay in the relationship I was in. Her story reminded me so much of the situation I was in; dealing with an alcoholic, dealing with someone who constantly demeans you, etc. This behavior is not acceptable to someone you claim to care about and love. My decision to leave has been hard on me, as I’m sure it was for her and her daughter. I am no longer in denial for not seeing the way he was treating me was wrong. I see it now, and am still having emotional problems having been through all of this, and I’ve learned a lot. My advice to any woman in an abusive relationship: get out! They are not going to change unless they want to change. The sooner you get out, the easier it will be to get your life back on track. The longer you stay in, the longer you will get brainwashed into thinking “he’s right,  I shouldn’t talk to my friends or mom. I shouldn’t go to the gym. I shouldn’t yell at him for his excessive drinking. I should stop criticizing him for his lying.” These acts of behavior are wrong—and no woman, anywhere should ever be treated like this. Your happiness should be put before his, and if you're not happy and he's alright with it, that's going to end up being your life.

 

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