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A marriage vow says, “’Til death do us part.” But what if your husband’s behavior is so outrageous, you fear he’ll end up in an early grave? Dr. Phil’s first guest, Danny Bonaduce, was a child star on the ’70s hit show The Partridge Family, but now he’s infamous for his bad behavior. Danny has been arrested for drug possession, has been in rehab three times and has cheated on his wife, Gretchen. The couple showcases their struggle with his addictions on the VH1 show Breaking Bonaduce. Danny says he’s finally sober, but Gretchen says she can’t stop being suspicious of his every move. Is it too soon for her to trust him? Then, Maggie says she can’t deal with her fiancé, Michael’s, chaotic behavior. Michael admits that he’s verbally abusive to his wife-to-be, even in front of their young daughter, but says he wants to stop. Maggie moved halfway across the country and took their child without telling him. Can Michael get his family back, or has he lashed out one time too many?  Share your thoughts here.

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December 8, 2006, 3:30 pm PST

Danny Bonaducci has a paradoxical giant ego. In that he needs to be right about how wrong he is. Until a sharp therapist calls him on his know-it-all attitude, IMO, he'll just go on outsmarting himself by showing how smart he believes he is. His ego is so

 
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December 8, 2006, 3:32 pm PST

i can relate to 99% of this

I am a 23 y/o mother of a beautiful 3 year old son. His father and I have been married for 4 years but 2 months ago i finally said i had had enough and decided to leave again. he was controlling,jealous,called(and still does) me names in front of our son. He has to know every single move i make. there was alot of emotional and verbal and mental abuse going on but of course he denies it all. We had custody papers and divorce papers back in mar. 06. We agreed on his visitation to be tues from 8-11 and friday from 8am to saturday at 5pm. every time i go to pick up or drop off he wants to cause trouble for me. Back when the papers were written our son was not going to school but now that he is he has missed the last 2 tuesdays in a row because his dad wants to be a pain in the butt. Well i had a lawyer but as of two days ago he withdrew for some reason. Anyways the main reason i finally said thats it was we both had to work on a sunday evening and i had told my mom she could keep daniel that night and bring him back in the morning. Well my h didnt want daniel to stay there so he took the police to my mawmaws house to get him. i had the papers but the cops wouldnt wait for me to leave work to get them so they took my mom and uncle to jail for interference with child custody. well that is my story i have decided that i am sick of playing his head games and that i am not going to answer the phonne anymore when he calls unless daniel is with him. if anyone else has a similar situation feel free to email me and let me know. thanks nicole

 
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December 8, 2006, 3:35 pm PST

Out of control.....

I can identify totally with Maggie on the show right now....  My ex-boyfriend left me in May - after having an affair with my next door neighbor - he is now my neighbor.  He is a raging alcoholic.  She is as well - together, they are a horrible pair destined to be dead in a year and leave her children w/ no mother.  He is the most wonderful person - sweet, kind, fun person who will do anything for you - when he's sober.  When he drinks - you watch him pound beer after beer after beer - you can literally see him turn into a different person right before your eyes.  When he reaches the threshold of when he should stop but has one more, the person then becomes a raging monster - nasty, horrible, miserable person who vomits and cries and plead forgiveness one minute then rages and calls you the most despicable names the next.

 

I can identify with Maggie because everything Michael said, Charlie said.  I "pushed his buttons as only I can" (a statement he's said to every g/f and his ex wife), he's an admitted alcoholic "and you know that and should understand" (aka, excuse my behavior), within the last several years, he was so verbally and mentally abusive, I didn't recognize it any longer.  Now that he's been gone 7 months, I realize what a horrible existence I allowed to become normal.  It was not normal.  He destroyed his family - he's destroyed every relationship he's ever been in.  In addition to being an alcoholic, he's a deceptive, lying, cheating, thieving, con-artist. 

I knew him a couple of years before being involved with him - he was sober.  He made that decision after he lost his family.  His eldest daughter was old enough to remember her daddy saying I'm either going to drink myself to death or get my act together (she was 10 at the time) - he chose sobriety and stayed sober for over 10 years.  When we got together, he did not drink which was great - I'm not a big drinker and can find an awful lot of things to do besides going to a bar - and yes, I'm a fun person even though I don't get stupid drunk.  About a year and a half into the relationship, we attended a 40th b/d party for a good friend of his who insisted he have a beer - I saw the change after 1/2 a glass and so did he.  He stopped and he had nothing more to drink until pressures mounted in his world.  A beer here, there, turned into a 6 pack here there turned into a 30 pack in a weekend.    He and the new girlfriend go through a 30 pack just about every night. 

 

I do not have to imagine what Eternal Hell will be like - I lived it the last year of my relationship with him.  The horrid names (those Maggie mentioned were commonplace - the "C" word was his pet name for me), the mental and verbal abuse (I have a college degree, have a great job - he has a high school education, is a laborer and calls me stupid F'g moron), the breaking of precious momentos I held dear, the threats of physical abuse, the witnessing of him beating his dog.   In addition to suffering as I did - I loved him, the more I loved him, the worse things got.  I used to be a strong, no nonsense, no BS taking kind of gal.  Now, I'm a beaten down mentally drained person who allows people to walk all over me.  I realize he did this to me - I allowed it to happen and he ran with it.  I'm a nurturer by nature and my personality enabled him to do the things he did to me and others.  I excused his behavior, I helped him when he got sick from drinking so much, I did everything for him - and worse, I allowed him to manipulate my finances - I am now stuck with over $85,000 of HIS debt and there is not a thing I can do about it because it was on credit cards. 

 

Even worse, I see the same thing happening with the new g/f - he's conned her into buying a new motorcycle (newer than the one I bought and had to have repossessed), conned her into basically supporting him while he goes out with the boys and cheats and lies to her as he's done to me and countless others, she pays for everything, he pays for nothing.  He has a history (which I found out way too late), of using women, getting us to buy the most unbelievable material possessions, and when he realizes the gravy train is over - he destroys the material things, starts his hunt for the new conquest (because he doens't leave the current g/f until he's secured a new one) and then leaves the current g/f with all the bills, the repairs, the destroyed life, the anguish - while he goes onto the new g/f having played up to her how awful the old one was, etc. - garnering even bigger, better, faster, more expensive material things - and the pattern starts all over again.

 

All this from stems from a raging functional alcoholic who sees nothing wrong with his life, lifestyle - that the ex is the one who stifles his independence, freedom, isn't fun anymore, doesn't know how to party, etc. - that's what he tells the potential new g/f's - and the stories are so believable, you feel sorry for how he was "wronged", and you sit with him and have a beer or so, and the stories get taller and taller......  He needs to grow up , take responsibility and be a parent to the 4 children (and 3 granchildren) he's lost.... but that will never happen....  the pattern continues and unfortunately, because of the financial mess he left me with, I cannot move and I need to see this every day as they live next door.  Its a constant scenario of him and her laughing at me, picking on the way I do things and how I do them and how I can't function w/o him, etc.  I hear all the time how I'm such a prude, I'm a jerk, I'm cold, etc. - just because I don't drink a lot.

 

I hate to tell him, but he lost the best thing he ever had - his family knows it, his friends know it, but he just ignores them instead for the 10 year older woman who has a drug addict daughter and a mildly retarded daughter.  They smoke and drink with the drug addict (she's 14), he's been arrested for a DUI (he's a CDL license holder), he's managed to talk his way out of the penalty - how I do not know as his BAC was .16....  His brother afflicted with the same problem should have 7 DUI convictions - but his lawyer got him off of technicalities and he has 2 on record - and they continue to drink.  The holiday season is here and it will be even worse.  I remember last Christmas - he vomited 4 times on a 20 minute drive home because he drank so much....  but I just don't know how to have fun.

 

Out of control - yes, he's definitely out of control  And had this been 7 months ago, I would have taken him back in a heart beat because I loved him so much - I still care deeply for him - but the person he was, not who he is now - the person he probably was all along, but masked it for 10 years.   He is on a self destructive path starting with the alcohol and spicing it up with his lies, deceptions, debauchery, con artistry - among many other things.


Anyone who lives with an alcoholic, please encourage them to seek help or get out.  I endured 7 years of hell and I'm just beginning to get back to the person I was and look back and think to myself - what happened to me that I allowed that to happen to me?  He doens't want help - he wants to live the life of an alcoholic - the partier, the fun guy, the man with no responsibility.  I want a life with someone who loves me, cherishes me, wouldn't dare condescend me or call me the most horrid names - unfortunately, he's destroyed just about any trust I have toward men, and pretty much sealed the fate to never let another man get close to me enough that I love and trust them like I did him.  What I see and live with every day is 7 years of my life wasted - wasted because I could have had someone who loved me enough that we would have married and had children.  I'll never have the gift of children because I wasted my love on someone who just wants to be wasted.

 

 

 
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December 8, 2006, 3:43 pm PST

Maggie and Michael

I hope she will never have another thing to do with him. In fact, no matter how far away she is I think she needs a restraining order. I was married to two different guys who both act like him, and all they do is waste somebody's time. She can easily go on and have a good life for herself and her daughter. (I did.) He'll just keep looking for women to mess with.
 
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December 8, 2006, 3:44 pm PST

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I think there should be more shows like this, there are not enough people that know about emotional, verbal abuse.  I married the wrong guy and he acted perfect till we got married.  I got called all kinds of names, pushed kicked, and had things thrown at me.  All of that started with just emotional and verbal abuse.  When I left my husband I got told by my family that I hadn't given it a good enough shot.  There are so many people out there that are quick to acknowledge physical abuse.  I think if more people knew about emotional and verbal abuse that there were more support for this kind of abuse then we could all be helped before things get worse.  I still have to deal with the after effects.  My family still tells me I need to go back to him and if it weren't for my closest friends standing by me I probably would have gone back.  I still have to avoid phone calls every day and I have to keep my address private from him or anyone that he knows.  I am still looking for more support, but am very gratefull for the support from my friends.  I am glad this show was on today because sometimes I still get to where I feel I didn't try hard enough and that maybe he could still change and it helps to see shows like this confirming that I made the right choice. 

 
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December 8, 2006, 4:06 pm PST

12/08 Out-of-Control Husbands

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i was married to my son's father for almost 7 years. i thought he was pretty even tempered until the first time i saw my 'introductury' temper tantrum just prior to our wedding day. he seemed to get along in life just fine. then the day would come about where something would happen, and it was the straw that broke the camel's back. he would blow up so much so that i was literally scared for my life, even more so after the birth of my son. my ex-husband would put his fist though walls, closet doors, tear phone books apart so easily as if it was just a piece of paper, he would pound counter tops, scream into my ears, and then wrap this wonderful package with the worse of all words that a man can call his wife. he said that he believed that calling me these disgusting words would get my attention. he was verbally abusive to the highest extent. he always had my attention, he just did not look to see that it was there. in the end though he really got the my complete, and absolute attention; after all that i went through this with him - DIVORCE. he was so upset, and very sad. sure, i was too, i was in this marriage for the long haul, yet because i get up being abused which he knew, yet he did not get it. all the flowers, and apologies could not change the way his behavior affected me. thank god he never hit me, though on the last day that he shared our home with me, he did push me up against the stair railing, his grip so hard that it left bruises, the actual imprint of his hands, on both of my arms, in addition to bruises on my backside, from being pushed hard against the stair raiing. i knew he was hurting so i just let it go as he was leaving. i did not want to take what was already a very volital situation, and possibly turn it into a very violent one, especially when my son is there. this is just one example of his being out of control. verbal abuse, for me, is probably the worse type of abuse that there is. i would have rather been hit, than to endure verbal abuse. physical wounds heal, yet words never leave one's memory, and can scare one for life. it did, and has for me.

i have had a few serious relationships since, yet none of them would be with a man who knew how to treat a woman with respect, courtesy, kindness, etc., and also having control over what they would say. they did not know how to think before they spoke. also, their vices that were not attractive to me: smoking, drugs, drinking, and they all were career driven men who believed that they had absolute control over their lives. they wanted control over me as well. i would like to know what gives a man the idea that he can do whatever he wants after the good behavior period in a new relationship, and the time that goes on after? i am not perfect, and i do choose to not hurt others. i have good morals, and values, and have taught my son the same. it has been 22 years since my divorce, and it sadens me that i may never find someone of good character, morals, values, etc. there is much more to say, yet i have said enough already. your input is greatly appreciated.

 

i would like to say that many people that i know, including myself, are sick and tired of all the media attention given to celebrities these days. there are much more important things to report about these days. every single day that i put on my cable news, there is constant coverage about this celebrity or that celebrity. WHY? give us a break. its the holidays, so talk about important issues with regard to that if you need a topic. it happens to be a very tough time for many, including myself. thank you very much.

I agree with you wholeheartedly.....  I've been out of the drunken, angry, abusive relationship for over 7 months now, even though he lives next door with the woman he cheated on me with (one of many), but I too wonder - I'm not perfect, but I don't deserve the creep men seem to become after the "good period" - and yes, what gives any man or any opposite partner the right they think they have to control and take away what the other has worked so hard to build up. 


I seem to be a magnet for men who can't stand that I'm a strong (but not obnoxious), independent woman who can stand on my own two feet.  I've been in 2 major relationships and both felt it their bound and duty to strip me of my feelings, my pride, my hard earned money and my self esteem - only because they were drunken losers who basically inside can't stand themselves.  This last relationship of 7 years has cost me my hard earned retirement fund - I have nothing but my pride left..... 

 

No, a man doens't need to be a drunk or a drug addict to be a jerk - but those two things magnify it - and unfortunately, when one or both is present, the person is also a liar, con artist and is very good at manipulating good intentioned people. 

 

I now am dreading the holidays - I always hosted Christmas Eve for his children and grandchildren - none of whom talk to me anymore since he's poisoned them against me.  They, like their parents are partiers - its sick to think this man parties with his 24, 23, 19 and 17 year old....  yes, 2 are under age to be drinking, but that doesn't stop the good time rolling....  and who used to watch the grandbabies while they partied.....  me so at least someone was sober enough to take care of a 3 year old and 5 month old and now this christmas there is another one on the way that I'll never get to know.  Christmas day was hosted by me as well for both our parents and siblings - but now that will be hosted at the house of the woman who helped her self to my man thanks to his "charm" and drinks. 

 

I the good person, the person who planned, made sure everyone got a present, was happy, had fun, etc., gets to be cast aside this year due to the horrible stories he's so kindly circulated among "friends" and his family.  None of which I realize I need that if they can't see the person I was for 7 years isn't the person he's painting.  But you can't argue or reason with drunks and that's what they are - a family of 3 generations of drunks - and he found a perfect drunk mate.... 

 

Merry Christmas

 
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December 8, 2006, 4:08 pm PST

A good man

When I watched the show today and heard Danny B's story; I was moved to tears. It was not out of outrage or disgust over one man's bad choices in life, nor was it out of concern for his children's well being. What touched me so much was seeing one man's courage to admit his mistakes, to say he was wrong, and to say that his behavior was shameful. I have never posted a message on a website before.... I felt compelled to today. I hope that this message can somehow be passed on to Mr. Bonaduce. When I was 9 years old, my stepfather molested me. He was a church deacon, respected by the congregation, and considered in our community to be a good man, a man of God. While he did admit to the molestation and served time for it; he never apologized for the abuse, or even once described his behavior as shameful or bad. I do not share this information to gain attention for myself, or to bash those who have dedicated their lives to the church and to serving their congregation and community in this way. I realize that my stepfather is the exception, not the norm and I have nothing but respect for these caring and selfless individuals. But, after a lifetime of seeing someone behave in a truly shameful way, and never admit that they were wrong; to see a man go on national television and say, "I was wrong. My behavior was shameful." brought tears to my eyes. To Mr. Bonaduce, I would say, "I am not a trained professional. I do not know you, nor do I pretend to know anything about your life, or your family. I do not know what effect talking to your kids about past mistakes will have on them. I can only speak from personal experience, and tell you how much damage it does when you don't hear your parent say, ‘This is what I did, it was shameful, I'm going to try to make it right.’ While I do not know you personally, I have so much respect for you for doing that. I think that you are a good man. I think that you are a good father." I wish Danny B. happiness in his life, and hope he will one day be able to see the positive effects his current choices are having, and be proud of himself. To those who would be quick to judge him, I would say, "He that is without sin, cast the first stone."

 
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December 8, 2006, 4:09 pm PST

Out-of-Control Husbands

While watching today's show I experienced emotions I thought were long gone.

 

I was in an abusive marriage years ago.  My then-husband was an alcoholic, spit in my face, man-handled me, threatened me, called me horrible names, was controlling and cruel.  My self-esteem was shattered.  I don't know why it took me so long to get out of that unhealthy relationship...but get out I did.

 

There is life beyond abuse.  I've been married to my husband now for 30 years.  He is my best and dearest friend, not only a wonderful husband but a terrific father.  He is kind, gentle, listens, gives consideration to me, my thoughts and dreams.

 

For women planning to leave an abusive relationship, here are important steps to keep in mind.  Following information is from Advocates to End Domestic Violence, Carson City, Nevada:

 

 

Step I - Plan for Safety if a Violent Incident Occurs

• Plan to keep your purse and car keys ready. Put them in a place that you can grab them and leave quickly.
• Tell a friend, neighbor or family member about the violence and ask them to call the police if they hear suspicious noises coming from the house.
• Teach your children how to dial 911 to contact the police.
• Decide now where you would go if you have to leave your home.
• If you believe an argument is going to occur, move to a lower risk place in your home. Avoid bathrooms, the kitchen, garage, rooms where weapons are stored, or rooms without access to an outside door.
• If the situation is serious, give your partner what he/she wants to calm him down. Protect your self until you are out of danger.

Step 2 - Plan for Safety When You Are Preparing to Leave
• Leave money and an extra set of keys, and copies of important documents with a neighbor, nearby friend or family member so that you can leave quickly.
• Leave extra clothes with a nearby friend of neighbor in case you must leave quickly. • Open a bank or savings account in your name to increase your independence.
• Memorize the domestic violence hotline number (775-883-7654). Use this number if you need to seek shelter from domestic violence.
• Keep a change for phone calls, a phone calling card, or a cell phone at all times.
• Avoid making calls from your home phone that would display the numbers you have called.
• Decide on an escape plan and rehearse this plan. If you have children, practice with your children.

Step 3 - Plan for Safety with a Protection Order
Note: Many batterers will obey a protective order, but you can not be sure which violent partner will obey the order and which will violate the order. Plan for your safety by seeking shelter from the batterer. Be prepared to ask the police or the courts to enforce your protective order.

• Keep your protection order with you at all times. Make copies and keep them in your car, your home, at your job or anywhere else you might spend time regularly.
• Inform your employer, your minister, your friends, your babysitters, your children's school, and anyone else you or your children regularly spend time with.
• If your partner violates the protection order and you feel you are in danger, CALL THE POLICE. You should also plan on contacting your attorney, calling the court and advise them of the violation.
• If your partner is contacting your place of work repeatedly, you can ask a coworker to screen your calls.
• Consider your daily habits. Do you frequent the same grocery store or shopping center regularly and at the same times? If so, consider varying where and when you carry out your daily activities so they are different from your habits when you resided with your battering partner.
• Consider changing to a different bank or financial institution. It is also a good idea to vary the times you do your banking to different hours than when you were with your partner.

Step 4 - Items to Take When Leaving
If you decide to leave your partner, it is important to take certain items with you. You could also copy these papers and leave them, along with some extra clothing with a trusted friend or family member in the event you must leave in a hurry.

The following is a list of items that should be taken. It is best to leave them in one location so that if you have to leave in a hurry you can take them quickly.

When You Leave: You Should Take:

• Your identification
• Your children's birth certificates
• Social Security Cards
• School and vaccination records
• Money
• Checkbook, ATM Cards
• Credit Cards
• Keys - House/car/office
• Drivers license and registration for your vehicle.
• Medications
• Welfare Identification
• Work permits, green cards, passports
• Divorce Papers
• Medical Records for yourself and your children
• Insurance papers
• Address Book
• Pictures
• Jewelry
• Children's Favorite toys and/or blankets
• Items of special sentimental value
 
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December 8, 2006, 4:12 pm PST

Doctor Phil Show.

Control Doctor Husbands Of Out Phil. Well at lease I am not marry at all but I know you are marry Doctor Phil. That is good. See you next week. Have a good weekend. Sencerley Your. Russell

 
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December 8, 2006, 4:16 pm PST

i am a danny girl

oh my! i see so much of danny in myself.  boy this has brought back a lot of old feelings.   i have been sober for 2 years and still carry the shame from my past behavior.  i will never drink again, but know that like danny's wife, it is hard for people to trust be considering the lies i told in the past.  it is a long healing process for us all.
 
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