Topic : 12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

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Created on : Friday, December 08, 2006, 02:32:23 pm
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The holidays are here, but some households never experience “peace on earth.” Dr. Phil’s guests refuse to embrace the spirit of the season, and say Christmas is the worst time of the year! Joyce has been married to Rick for 27 years, and has hated the holidays for 26 of those years. She refuses to put up a tree, decorate her house or listen to Christmas carols. Rick says Joyce even flipped out when he tried to dangle some mistletoe over her head!  Joyce has succeeded in ruining her family’s joy, but is she about to destroy her marriage? Then, Val has 11 kids, but says her three daughters stop at nothing to wreck the holidays. One daughter even resorted to breaking her sister’s finger on Christmas day! The constant fighting has pushed Val to consider something drastic. And, find out what special event Robin and Dr. Phil hosted to help celebrate the true holiday spirit! Talk about the show here.

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January 4, 2007, 11:19 am PST

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And I want to say again, that if there was anything that I have said that may have offended you I am sorry.  I really do not try to offend anyone, I only try to express my views, and some may see that as offensive, but believe me when I say that I never intend to do that.

 

And I would like to think that religious discrimination is over, but it isn't.  Which is upsetting because I feel that if we all just took the time to talk and understand one another, there wouldn't be as many misconceptions and fear of things we do not know much about.

 

This world is filled with different people and different beliefs.  Tolerance is key, as long as we are not hurting one another. 

 

Thank you for looking past the misconceptions, Afraid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

in all honesty you have never said anything that offended me,only my own stupidity offended ,sometimes i think i respond to people with out really thinking about what they are trying to say,you are 100% correct about tolerance being the key, becouse of your tolerance of me i saw that what i was trying to do to you was aganst gods very laws, for in my heart i was passing judgement on something i knew nothing about, some how i feel like a better person now than i were a week ago and its becouse of your tolerance, once again thank you.
 
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January 4, 2007, 1:21 pm PST

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I for one found Afraids willingness to be humble and understanding to be VERY Christian.
thank you purplepenny, you don't know how much this really means to me coming from you, for you too are one i have launched verbal attacks on in the past, and i was indeed passing judgment on you as well, and for this i am sooo sorry for and hope you too can find it in your heart to please forgive me, i wasn't stopping to realize the fact of the matter, that i couldn't understand why you don't believe in god for me this was very hard to understand, what i wasn't looking at was the fact that you were having just as much of a difficult thim trying to understand why i beleive in god, i wasnt allowing you the freedom of your choice,very unfair of me to think this way,but it really is a wonderful day for me to see you come to my aide, and you stood up for me, i thank you with all my heart, and i promice you this day i will never pass judgement on you or your views ever again, once again i apologise to you with all my heart for my past posts to you,if i cant offer a good point of view in the feture i will keep my stupidity to my self i promice.
 
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January 4, 2007, 2:31 pm PST

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effie and purplepenny i cant close with out telling you guys what the lesson i learned here was,in the beginning i felt as tho my views were more important than yours, i thought the way i believed was the way you should believe, i thought the way i felt was the way you should feel as well,but what i came to see through all this was i was just being selfish and inconsiderate of your feelings and beleifs, what i had to realize was your views and beleifs are just as important to you as mine are to me,could it be both of you are in touch with god even more than i ever could be?nether one of you ever said one bad thing about me in any of this,you only stuck to what you beleive, i commend you both for this,you did not slam on me for beleiving the way i beleive,you are indeed better people than i was ,i learned this world does not revolve around me, and i am only a part of it, with many counter parts that are all differnt in some way or another, but as any meachine works if all the parts were the same the meachine wouldnt work, its all the differnt parts put togather that make it perform and run smothley, i was a part that wasnt cast properly there for i wasnt fitting in in the way i should have, but through you twos tolerance and understanging of my stupidity you have honed the burrs off as to acheve a better fit  so to speak lol. in short i was being an jerk and when i look back at my self i am ashamed of whati said and the way i said it,i was wrong, you guys matter just as much as i do, in some ways i would say even more,you didnt know it but you really made me stop and think about what i was saying and doing,anrd i know god would not have me talk and act that way to any one for any reason, once again gals, im truley sorry for all my hateful words.
 
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January 4, 2007, 4:17 pm PST

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thank you purplepenny, you don't know how much this really means to me coming from you, for you too are one i have launched verbal attacks on in the past, and i was indeed passing judgment on you as well, and for this i am sooo sorry for and hope you too can find it in your heart to please forgive me, i wasn't stopping to realize the fact of the matter, that i couldn't understand why you don't believe in god for me this was very hard to understand, what i wasn't looking at was the fact that you were having just as much of a difficult thim trying to understand why i beleive in god, i wasnt allowing you the freedom of your choice,very unfair of me to think this way,but it really is a wonderful day for me to see you come to my aide, and you stood up for me, i thank you with all my heart, and i promice you this day i will never pass judgement on you or your views ever again, once again i apologise to you with all my heart for my past posts to you,if i cant offer a good point of view in the feture i will keep my stupidity to my self i promice.
Just so you know, a person who is willing to step up and apologize for wrong doing, and someone who admits they are wrong are some of the MOST RESPECTABLE people on the planet to me.

You are a person I have come to respect very much Afraid, even though we will never see eye to eye on MANY things...

I do forgive you, and thank you VERY much for being big enough to apologize. And likewise, I hope you can forgive me if I have ever been sharp or disrespectful of you in the past.

But please, don't be afraid to give your opinion or ask questions, that is what makes the world an interesting place.

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January 4, 2007, 11:41 pm PST

Thank you

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I don't know how to say this without offending someone.......but I do not believe in the Christian version of God.  I believe, that when early humans wandered this Earth, they worshipped what they saw, the sun, the moon, the stars.  Afterall, the sun does have great importance in our lives.  Now, science has concluded what exactly the sun and moon are, but I still choose to use these as my symbols of the God (sun) and Goddess (moon).

 

The God, to me means someone, or something that is apart of us.  So, in a way, we are worshipping a part of us, life.  Afterall, we are created by man and woman (can't leave out the Goddess).  I believe my ancestors saw what was around them and believed it to have a supernatural power.  Nothing needs a supernatural being, as I now understand, but it is nice to belive in some higher power, so I was drawn to a religion that I have felt close to my whole life. 

 

Hope this helps. =)

Thank you, I appreciate your honesty.
 
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January 4, 2007, 11:45 pm PST

Much longer

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From what I have read, it went something like this......Panthiestic beliefs, to Polythiestic beliefs, to Monothiestic beliefs.  I think that's the correct order. LOL  It's late....LOL

 

From what I have read, Pagan beliefs predate Christian beliefs by approximitly 2,000 years.  I hope I am not offending anyone by saying this.

It is probably much longer than that.
 
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January 4, 2007, 11:47 pm PST

No problem

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I for one found Afraids willingness to be humble and understanding to be VERY Christian.
I have no problem with that.  It's all good.
 
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January 5, 2007, 12:08 am PST

I understand

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but how could this be possible when there is not but [ 1 = one+0=1 god? isn't it just possible we all see god differently? after all mosses saw god as a burning Busch, i didn't see the burning Busch as mosses saw, but he was in the presence of the [ 1 =one and only god there is, so the same god mosses loved so much is the same god i too love, he hasn't come to me as a burning Busch, but hes still the same god,god gives life god gives food god gives water god gives love, so no matter how we each see god we are talking about the one and only god there is, doesn't matter how we see him in our hearts, all that matters is to open our hearts to him,god is the giver of all no matter how great or how small he gives all, and remember there was a time when even Satan walked in the presence of god, it wasn't till he fell to evil that god cast him away, but even Satan was given a chance to change.yes we all worship the same god, we just do it in different ways, the only thing that really is important is to worship god no matter how he leads our hearts,god chose different paths for each of us to follow,all religions that worship god are true as long as there keeping god above all others,its the religions that leed you away from god that are false,the pagans hole the tree dear to there hearts as a symbol of god, the tree is a living thing in which god him self created,could it be the pagans keep the tree as a symbol of god because that is how god came to mosses, hence a burning bush in which we know a bush grous in to a tree,you know i will not tell some one who whorships god in what has been dubed a pagan way that they dont worship the one and only god there is,if i do that i my self am claming there to be more than one god, not the pagan that holds a tree as a symbol of god, think about what i said and see if it comes clear to you as it has to me.

I understand what you are saying, although it is a little hard for me to read.   I guess I misunderstood what you believed.  I thought you had implied you are a Christian.  I mean no disrespect in that.  I think that it is admirable of you to see another's point of view.  I do not agree with some of the points that you have made, but because you are understanding I am sure you will accept that. 

 

 
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January 5, 2007, 11:39 am PST

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It is probably much longer than that.
That's why I didn't say "exactly".
 
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January 5, 2007, 11:40 am PST

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I understand what you are saying, although it is a little hard for me to read.   I guess I misunderstood what you believed.  I thought you had implied you are a Christian.  I mean no disrespect in that.  I think that it is admirable of you to see another's point of view.  I do not agree with some of the points that you have made, but because you are understanding I am sure you will accept that. 

 

Afraid is Christian.  Why can't he be Christian and still understand someone of another religion?
 

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