Topic : 12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

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Created on : Friday, December 08, 2006, 02:32:23 pm
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The holidays are here, but some households never experience “peace on earth.” Dr. Phil’s guests refuse to embrace the spirit of the season, and say Christmas is the worst time of the year! Joyce has been married to Rick for 27 years, and has hated the holidays for 26 of those years. She refuses to put up a tree, decorate her house or listen to Christmas carols. Rick says Joyce even flipped out when he tried to dangle some mistletoe over her head!  Joyce has succeeded in ruining her family’s joy, but is she about to destroy her marriage? Then, Val has 11 kids, but says her three daughters stop at nothing to wreck the holidays. One daughter even resorted to breaking her sister’s finger on Christmas day! The constant fighting has pushed Val to consider something drastic. And, find out what special event Robin and Dr. Phil hosted to help celebrate the true holiday spirit! Talk about the show here.

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December 13, 2006, 1:55 pm PST

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since i was a child now in my early 30's holidays stress me out. Since my birthday is on the 18th i was always cheated on it. My mother could never afford both christmas and my birthday so i never had a party or many mentions of my birthday. Thats not the bad thing. See I have always done all of the cooking for almost 12 pluse on both thanks giving and christmas finding my self running around like my head cut off by christmas morning. No one i mean no one ever brings anything to contribute to the meal and they always show up way to early and say when is it done, is it  done yet. So this year im not doing anything but for my 5 kids and better half. If any one shows up then tough luck. I am tired of being irritated and pissed off every christmas. This year has been very hard on my family. My 3 children and my boyfriedns 2 have had horrable christmas for the past 2 years. I came out of a violent marrage. It took my ex shooting me and getting put in prison to be rid of him. How ever he just go out a few weeks ago and i fear that he is up to something. He has to stay away but doesnt mean he will. I have someone picking my children up to see him. That seems to be working but I am afraid that something is going to go wrong agian this christmas. my boyfriend was hurt at work and just returned a few weeks ago leaving us strapped tight this year. That alone is stressing me out considering that the children have for the past 2 years only reseave one gift a peace. We where hopping this year was going to be different but it doesnt seem to be looking good. they never get gifts from other family members due to they only have one grandparent and dont have much to do with neither families with aunts and uncles. They all live to far. So its just us. My mother had a bad auto accident a few weeks ago leaving her bed fast with two broken legs, collar bone and her jaw. I am having to run back and forth from my house to hers since we have no way in getting her in our house. I am also a full time student. So boy here is the stress agin this year. This is why i am not cooking this year for anyone but my family. I would but im not sure how im going to buy our meal.

Everyone thinks im being a scrooge. I say that i have to much on my plate and need a brake. this is the only way i can get it, and try not to ruien everyone's holidays. I am bipolar and when i am stressed i am hard to deal with when i am stressed so i am trying to cut it down as much as possible. I jsut dont know how to get everyone to understand that i have to much to do and am trying not to be a scrooge. no one seems to understand. Someone with my condition doesnt need to be doing everything that i am doing. I have no choice no one will help out with anything, Taking care of my mother, cooking, cleaning, bathing the children, pay the bills, and sleeping. I am only getting about 2 hours of sleep a night.  every night i have to put my kids to bed, then drive and stay at my mothers, to clean ,cook, and take care of her and get up at 5 am to go back home and get , kids up and off to school and do everything i have to at  home and school. I cant even hire someone to come in and sit with my mother because she has no medical insurance, and medicade and ss is dragging their feet. She has no income at all she lost her job when she couldnt work and has no kind of savings. So i am buying all her medication and food, and anything else she nees. So thats where my christmas mony went and my children are suffering for it.  My brothers are useless and wont help. i have no other relitives to help. Ithink i am loosing my mind. So what my question is, is how can i explain to everyone that im not being a scrooge, that i just cant do anymore, I may snap if one more thing goes wrong this year.

 
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December 13, 2006, 1:58 pm PST

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Quote From: lsholts

I have to agree that the holidays are a bunch of humbug and hogwash.  The anxiety of making everything "just so" creates such a stress that I could completely skip the month of December.  People don't put thought into the gifts you receive, so you get a bunch of crap.  People don't appreciate the thought and effort you put into their gift and most of the time regift it anyway.  So why not just quit and save the time and money.  As for family time, no thanks.  They are always my spouses siblings and I don't really like them anyway, so why bother!  BaHumbug!!
lord have mercey, you really need a visit from the ghost of christmas past-presant-and future  hehehehehe, hope you do find it in you to enjoy this season with a happy heart, god bless you, sounds like you could really use it!
 
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December 13, 2006, 1:59 pm PST

Holiday Solution

It worries me that people in the world act like this; that they might have children and pass on these traits.  I have a solution for them... I have five siblings and 7 nieces and nephews.  If I do the math using 12 people and $20 a gift that comes to $240.  Every year I, along with my siblings, give my mom money.  I give $250 because that's what it would cost me anyway.  I don't know what my siblings give and I don't want to know; it isn't a competition.  When we started, my mom would double the money we gave her.  Now that we're all out of college with good jobs she can't afford to double it but I know she always adds to the amount.  Mom takes the money and gives it to a charity we picked (as a family) at Thanksgiving.  We don't buy gifts for one another.  We've been doing this for about ten years.  It makes us feel good and it makes us think about the situation others are in.  It keeps us aware of what we have that others are missing.  I have a wonderful family... even when I'm mad at one of them I still appreciate them enough to refrain from yelling at them muchless using any physical violence.  I think any adult that can get mad enough to punch their adult sibling should look into anger management classes.  This whole situation is rediculous.  Have christmas, have a meal, and be appreciative.  You have a family.  Most of my students are suffled from home to home and don't even know the definition of family. 
 

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December 13, 2006, 2:05 pm PST

Holiday Horror Stories

My mother died of breast cancer in October 1979 when I was 26. I was married and had two children under the age of 5. The first Christmas was hard because of lots of circumstances. I decided that I might not have a mom to help me figure out what to do to make Christmas just right for my own little family but we would be okay. We have made new traditions, dropped what did not work, added to what did work and now with our children grown, married, five grandchildren, and our home pretty much in the middle of the state, we now host Christmas for my husband's family. We now number about 30 and the number continues to grow. We have learned that the more we open our heart and our home and the more we shut our mouth, the more love we find. The decorations don't have to be perfect, the paint on the walls may be faded and smeared with sweet childrens handprints, the carpets are well worn. I am very sick now, and will never get better, so funds are always tight, but that is not a problem because everyone just chips in and we all do what we can. In life, not just Christmas, when viewed with love and gratitude, a home can swell to fit all inside the walls, the food will be more than sufficient and the joy will illuminate more than just the tree, it will light up faces and hearts. So, to each of you I wish you peace, love and joy.
 
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December 13, 2006, 2:05 pm PST

Holiday Horror Stories

Quote From: amivins

This woman is angry, bitter and unhappy about who knows what ... and takes it out on her family, including her grandchildren.  Whatever her issue, she has no right to inflict her misery on everyone else.   If she hates Christmas, let her go on a cruise during the  holidays.  I refuse to believe some stupid incident about a returned outfit two decades ago is the real problem - and I don't blame her husband for giving up in the face of constant criticism.

As a mother and grandmother I would encourage Joyce and all the rest who are not happy with the holiday season, to remember what the season is about.

 

It is to remember the birth of Jesus. It is not about us and the presents we give and receive, but remember He was born to bring hope to the world. Since He is my Savior and Lord,

 

I love Christmas and would celebrate it on a dialy basis to see what good I can do for someone else. We are a part of a large family group that includes in-laws and their children and we always celebrate the season and all the seasons of the year.

 
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December 13, 2006, 2:06 pm PST

The silly silly lady

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 I was truly shocked to hear the level of self absorption and entitlement shown by the daughters.  I am one of 5 sisters. We grew up in a terrifying household with every imagineable and unimagineable kind of abuse.  My sisters and I have suffered the effects of chronic ptsd and a host of physical problems due to this.  There have been many times when 1 or more of us have been unabled to tolerate being with each other due to various stages of healing.  The most important thing we stand by is that we are all healing in our own way and we would NEVER take that out on each other during the holidays or anytime we visit.  We have worked long and hard to have respectful, caring relationships with each other.  That has allowed us to be with each other during really bad times and really good times and what a blessing it is.  If they can't show love and respect for their siblings, then they should leave them alone and stop harassing them until they can.  One day,when they are in their 30's or in their 50's and 60's,  they will need their family. When illness and circumstances beyond their control leaves them in need of help to get by; they will be grateful for people who are helpful and supportive.  My sisters and I are living proof that if you make healing a priority in the family you can change your relationships and have a loving family who support your growth and celebrate your life as they are the only ones who have been there from the start .  Things do not matter; stupid fight over nothing due not matter; what matters is peace and serenity in your heart when you love unconditionally your family, and bring that feeling to all the relationships.  You don't lose your independance; you don't have to agree with everything everyones says and does; you can love and accept them for who  they are, and they, in return, can love,respect and accept you.

 The first lady on your show today is a sad sad lady. To have a family that wishes to celebrate  Christmas with her, and she refuses, using so many stupid excuses to make her family unhappy. She should live through my holiday season just once. 

 

I have never ever enjoyed a Christmas.  Growing up, my dad was an alcoholic. As soon as Thanksgiving came around, he made life miserable.   When I married, I thought things would change. They did not.   Now I am in my late 50's and altho I love Christmas, I am forgotten. I spend the holiday season with my curtains closed, and venture out only when I have to.  No one sends a card or calls,  no e-mail of happy wishes, no tree or decorations grace my house.  It is the coldest and lonliest time of the year.  I spend Christmas Eve with my bible, I celebrate with word of the Lord.  It is the only thing that gets me through the season.

 

Ihave brothers that do not recognize that I live. I have neices and nephews. There is a big family out there somewhere that I have been excluded from.  So please tell these people to look towards theor blessings. They are loved! Others want to include her in their celebration. I would give anything to bask in the love, glory, and warmth of the season. These people on your show today are fools for not taking advantage of the love and the glory of the season that are asked to share.

 
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December 13, 2006, 2:24 pm PST

Large Family solution

Just a thought on the large family with 11 children. One way to eliminate the fights over the gifts is to quit buying for each other. I too come from a very large family. My dad was one of ten kids. With all of them married and now that their children have children there are well over 100 of us total. As many as possible get together at the individuals home who is hosting that year. They trade every year between the original ten kids. Instead of a name draw or general boy/girl gift, everyone decided a few years ago to quite buying gifts for each other. They usually were very impersonal gifts anyway. Instead, everyone now brings a new unwrapped gift for a child. At the end of the day the host delivers all the toys to the local Toy for Tots. Not only does it elimniate the fights and bad feelings over what you gave or received it gives everyone the true feeling of Christmas and a great inner joy knowing that you made one childs' Christmas better.
 
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December 13, 2006, 2:27 pm PST

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Quote From: draya001

Here's a hearty pat on the back from one Christmas non-enthusiast to another.  I get the same reaction, except for the "not old enough to appreciate the season," since I'm pushing 50.

 

draya001's Top Ten Reasons Why I Hate Christmas

 

10.  I hate Christmas because it is the first big lie parents tell their children.  I know, I know; it's all supposed to be for fun, but I think teaching a child that fantasy is real is detrimental to their mental development and their trust in their parents. 

 

9.  I hate Christmas because if you're not with the Christmas Crowd they will definitely make sure you're against them.

 

8.  I hate Christmas because it has taken an honest (however much misguided, in my opinion) sentiment and turned it into a three month long commercial.

 

7.  I hate Christmas because Salvation Army beggars wielding bells like weapons make entering any and every store a torment.  When I was a kid, they used to sing carols and play music, which was not annoying and rather pleasant.  Now they hire derelicts who throw sarcasm, curses and spit, just because I quietly passed them by.  The Salvation Army is a charitable organization, and they do good things.  If their kettle contributions are pretty thin, they ought to consider why.

 

6.  I hate Christmas because by the time everyone has worn themselves out jumping through all the obligatory hoops, no one can enjoy it.

 

5.  I hate Christmas because every year the most beautiful 70-foot Norway Spruce in the world gets killed and stuck up to dry and rot in Rockefeller Plaza, along with millions of its lesser cousins throughout the world.

 

4.  I hate the waste of paper and foil.  I hate the mess and the noise.

 

3.  I hate greedy kids who are (in about 30 minutes) completely uninterested in whatever toy they've been screaming about for the last six months.

 

2.  I hate the inevitable family fights.

 

1.  And finally, I hate Christmas because of all the Christians who whine and complain that it isn't about Jesus' birth any more, and who don't have the wit or initiative to read The Bible carefully enough to know that if Jesus ben Joseph did exist, he surely wasn't born in December; or read a history book with enough diligence to realize that what we now know as Christmas was once a pagan holiday called Saturnalia that early Northern European Christians co-opted to increase their numbers.  They tended to have a lot of backsliders around Saturnalia and they wanted to snag them back with another celebration a few days later.  If Jesus did exist, he was a Jew who maintained that he was a man like any other man; he celebrated the rituals any young Rabbi would; and the only time his birthday was anything much special was his Bar Mitzvah.  Jesus was a teacher with a message, and although I'm not a Christian (or even a Jew) I think he would be disturbed to find what we've made of his message.  He repeatedly cautioned us not to think of him as a god, because he wanted us to know that we are all God's children, and all humans can attain grace -- a very good message no matter what its source.  If you're going to be a Christian, do it right and quit whining about it.

 

'nuff said

 Whoa, girlfriend! What a concise and well-composed post. I agree with you on many points, even though I personally don't hate Christmas. I actually rather enjoy it--to a certain extent, minus the icky commercialism.

Your item 1 is duly noted. I get the impression from reading various posts on this board that a big chunk of Dr. Phil viewers are Christians.

Please, Christians out there reading this, do not take too much offense to the lady's point 1. But she is right that Christians have co-opted a pagan ritual as their own, so you can't lay claim on this holiday and proclaim while looking down on us "others" that "Jesus is the reason for the season." If anything, Easter seems like it has much more relevance and importance to Christianity, since that event is a celebration of his suffering, sacrifice, and resurrection--if you are a Christian and believe in that, of course.


 
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December 13, 2006, 2:30 pm PST

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I think the story about the "bum fights" affected me in a different way than most. As a 22 year old female college student who enjoys shows like Jackass and The Dudesons, I receive hundreds of silly forwards such as chain letters and bum fights all the time and every time i would see the bum fights images i laughed not really knowing what it was even about and would send it to at least 35 of my friends who would laugh and they would send it to their friends and so forth. I'm from Saskatchewan, Canada, and there are no homeless people in my town, in fact, I've never witnessed a homeless person in my life. After seeing the effects that bumfights had on young people and its influence on voilence against homeless people I was absolutely in shock and i felt like such a dumbass for ever thinking it was funny. And the dude who is making millions off of this makes me want to throw up and I can't understand how he can hang his hat at the end of the day.  This was a complete eye-opener for me and I hope that it brought awareness to other people my age who don't realize the effect it's having on the world.  I am so glad that i saw the effect that this has on people such as the lady on the show who's brother was killed. Dr.Phil, bringing that twisted "man" on the show was absolutely not a mistake on your behalf becuase it stopped me and everyone i know from looking at those images anymore, and I am so glad I saw it.

 
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December 13, 2006, 2:31 pm PST

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Quote From: teacherone

My Christmas traditions began 25 years ago...

 

26 years ago, I buried my infant son on Christmas Eve...he died of SIDS on December 22. I had 2 toddlers at home and went home to play Santa Claus that night...it was the most horrid Christmas I ever saw my children experience...not because they lost their brother, but because they did not understand why everyone was so subdued on such a great day. In the midst of my grief, I decided that they would never see another Christmas that was not full of wonder and laughter the way Christmas should be. As the next year progressed, many things happened, one was that I became pregnant again and had a child Dec. 16th of the next year. I was so dreading the hollidays. With baby blues and the anniversary of the death of my son, it was not a pleasant time.

 

After some thought and prayer, I came to a concious decision to begin new traditions in my family for my children...but basically for me. I began by decorating the house the day after Thanksgiving. I had to get a running start on the depression that set in about the beginning of December. I began using advent calendars and candles, reading Christmas stories each night, and wrapping one present each night after the kids went to bed. I found that by making myself do these things and wrapping myself in the holiday, my mood became uplifted. As the kids would run to see for whom the new present was, their eyes would light up. Many other traditions developed over the years, but it was really just a matter of will to overcome the nay sayers.

 

Today, my 4 children are adults and they have great memories and wonderful stories of the holidays. I have been around bah, humbug people who say they hate the holidays, that it is the worst time of year, etc. but it is my opinion that you choose to be in a bad mood about it or a good mood and you can allow others to control your spirit or not. My husband hates Christmas and chooses to only be a peripheral part of the traditions. It's too bad that he robs himself of that joy. The rest of us choose to be children for a while!

I am touched to tears by your beautiful post! I am so moved by your courage and strength to put someone else above your own tremendous pain! I wish I could just give you a big HUG!
 

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