Topic : 12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

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Created on : Friday, December 08, 2006, 02:32:23 pm
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The holidays are here, but some households never experience “peace on earth.” Dr. Phil’s guests refuse to embrace the spirit of the season, and say Christmas is the worst time of the year! Joyce has been married to Rick for 27 years, and has hated the holidays for 26 of those years. She refuses to put up a tree, decorate her house or listen to Christmas carols. Rick says Joyce even flipped out when he tried to dangle some mistletoe over her head!  Joyce has succeeded in ruining her family’s joy, but is she about to destroy her marriage? Then, Val has 11 kids, but says her three daughters stop at nothing to wreck the holidays. One daughter even resorted to breaking her sister’s finger on Christmas day! The constant fighting has pushed Val to consider something drastic. And, find out what special event Robin and Dr. Phil hosted to help celebrate the true holiday spirit! Talk about the show here.

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December 16, 2006, 6:34 am PST

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Personally, I think there is a lot more going on with Joyce than a present she didn't like 26 years ago.   No one in their right mind holds a grudge for 26! years! over a christmas present she didn't like.  Yes, over the years I got presents I didn't like too; however a gift is a gift, and it behooves the receiver to be gracious about it because it is good manners, nothing more and nothing less.  Apparently, over the years her daughter has tried to give her presents also, and she was snarky about that too.  (Yes, I know that the daugher is an adult now, but she wasn't always one, and were is a child going to get the wherewithal to buy diamonds?) I feel that taking down the tree at 6 am on Christmas morning  smacks of being  spiteful , petty, and vindictive.

I think that Joyce can't be pleased because she has decided that she won't be pleased. Husband and child have given up because this no win situation - nothing will ever be good enough.

While Christmas may be the (or one of several) focal points of this rage she feels, I strongly suspect that  it is only the very tip of the iceberg in this situation.
 
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December 16, 2006, 9:47 am PST

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Point 1.  It is totally and completely impossible for most husbands to choose clothes for their wives.  Shopping for clothes is an art and most women find it very hard to find the right fit, style, color and fabric when they are shopping for themselves. 

 

You are right.  Be happy-enjoy Christmas.  It is only the 26th time she has had to return his Christmas present.  Do you see a pattern here.

 

Point 2.  After 26 years, there are many choices her husband could have made if he had truly wanted to please his wife for Christmas.  As I stated before, a watch, bracelet, ring, crystal figurine or music box would have conveyed caring and thought. 

 

Point 3.  If he truly cared about his wife's feelings, he would have ask for help from a professional buyer or ask a relative to help him. choose a gift that his wife would love.

 

Has it occurred to anyone that Christmas might be a time for getting revenge.

 

Like when the ultra conservative grandmother gets a jacket from her daughter-in-law that is the exact color she has been told you revile and it just happens to be two sizes too small, but the  white knit gloves with red and blue snowflakes pattern fit perfectly.  

 

This after you have made sure each year that their Christmas's have been more than adequately funded.

 

Your suspicions are confirmed when you return the items and find they were purchased in the Junior Miss Dept. and you happen to be a plus size, 60 year old grandmother.

 

I would say "Get a clue girl."

 

Here is why Christmas should be for children.

 

I get a $50.00 gift card for my sister and she gets a $50.00 gift card for me.

 

If it is truly the thought that counts, then we could exchange fifty dollar bills on Christmas Day and save ourselves the time, gas and energy of buying gift cards.

 

You receive a nice winter coat for Christmas from your sister, when you live in Jamaica.

 

Does that thought count.

 

I stand by my theory.  If that husband had truly cared about his wife, he would have sat down and written a beautiful letter to his wife telling her how much she means to him and how lost he would be without her in his life.  He would thank her for the sacrifices she has made over the years and praise her role of mother and wife over the years.    

 

Now that's a gift no wife would want to return.

"It is totally and completely impossible for most husbands to choose clothes for their wives.  Shopping for clothes is an art and most women find it very hard to find the right fit, style, color and fabric when they are shopping for themselves."

First of all...WOW...seriously an "art"? Their clothes, get over it! LOL...second of all. Maybe she should have told him that POLITELY and then she should have GOTTEN OVER IT! Not acted like a brat for 26 years.

You obviously didn't watch the show. He bought this for her 26 years ago..their first Chirstmas together. He hasn't gotten her any gifts since then, so "It is only the 26th time she has had to return his Christmas present." MAKES NO SENSE!

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Point 3.  If he truly cared about his wife's feelings, he would have ask for help from a professional buyer or ask a relative to help him. choose a gift that his wife would love."

What world do you live in? He bought her a gift...he bought her a GIFT. THE ONLY reasonable way a HUMAN BEING should respond to that is to say THANK YOU!

"Like when the ultra conservative grandmother gets a jacket from her daughter-in-law that is the exact color she has been told you revile and it just happens to be two sizes too small, but the  white knit gloves with red and blue snowflakes pattern fit perfectly.

I would say "Get a clue girl." 

  

Here is why Christmas should be for children. 

  

I get a $50.00 gift card for my sister and she gets a $50.00 gift card for me. 

  

If it is truly the thought that counts, then we could exchange fifty dollar bills on Christmas Day and save ourselves the time, gas and energy of buying gift cards. 

  

You receive a nice winter coat for Christmas from your sister, when you live in Jamaica. 

  

Does that thought count. "
 


What? What are you talking about? This is more about YOU than it is the show I see. LOL..well vent away, the fact remains you do NOT know what that husband was thinking and you are supporting someone being an ungrateful BRAT for 26 years!!!

"I stand by my theory.  If that husband had truly cared about his wife, he would have sat down and written a beautiful letter to his wife telling her how much she means to him and how lost he would be without her in his life.  He would thank her for the sacrifices she has made over the years and praise her role of mother and wife over the years.    

  

Now that's a gift no wife would want to return." 



 

Well, ONCE AGAIN, considering the fact that you didn't watch the show, this was their FIRST YEAR OF MARRIAGE so I don't know how he could thank her for years of marriage and a child yet...LOL...so why would someone even bother to buy her a gift again anyway? So she can crap on it too? Why write a letter? So she can complain about the paper and the grammar and spelling? 


Dr Phil is right, you teach people how to treat you and she has taught people to treat her like the rotten brat she is.
 


This woman returned gifts from a 9 year old! What a materialistic FREAK!
 
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December 16, 2006, 10:57 am PST

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if it is not from the heart, it has no meaning!

Afraid, if you're speaking of two people in love, then the gift is from the heart, no matter how hideous or useless it is.  I believe you most likely understand that.

 

If you're giving a gift to someone in general, then it is simply that - a gift - and the person giving the gift should have no expectations of receiving a gift in return.  That's the way I see it.  If I give a gift to someone "just because", I don't want them to feel like they need to give me anything.

 

I'll be married 20 years on the 19th and I can't count the number of gifts that my husband and I gave each other that we just laughed about.  Now, we know each other better (I guess we should) and there are still those "funny" gifts, but also very warm and loving gifts.

 

Now, my family -- may I receive an inspirational jolt in the head for some of them to please them.  No, it's not that bad.  We're the type that feel blessed to have yet another year to see one another.  And speaking of that -- I'm due at my mom's NOW....help!  My sister wants me to bring her lunch  and go to a birthday party that I do not want to go to - so I'm not.  I'm here for my parents.  We're helping her with her house for Christmas, so she doesn't have to work too hard and I'm taking them out to dinner.  I'm already dodging phone calls and that's why I put myself and my daughters in a hotel.  Afraid, pray for me, because I haven't even put my make up on - and it's lunch time. 

 

Let the white lies begin........

 
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December 16, 2006, 4:02 pm PST

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Afraid, if you're speaking of two people in love, then the gift is from the heart, no matter how hideous or useless it is.  I believe you most likely understand that.

 

If you're giving a gift to someone in general, then it is simply that - a gift - and the person giving the gift should have no expectations of receiving a gift in return.  That's the way I see it.  If I give a gift to someone "just because", I don't want them to feel like they need to give me anything.

 

I'll be married 20 years on the 19th and I can't count the number of gifts that my husband and I gave each other that we just laughed about.  Now, we know each other better (I guess we should) and there are still those "funny" gifts, but also very warm and loving gifts.

 

Now, my family -- may I receive an inspirational jolt in the head for some of them to please them.  No, it's not that bad.  We're the type that feel blessed to have yet another year to see one another.  And speaking of that -- I'm due at my mom's NOW....help!  My sister wants me to bring her lunch  and go to a birthday party that I do not want to go to - so I'm not.  I'm here for my parents.  We're helping her with her house for Christmas, so she doesn't have to work too hard and I'm taking them out to dinner.  I'm already dodging phone calls and that's why I put myself and my daughters in a hotel.  Afraid, pray for me, because I haven't even put my make up on - and it's lunch time. 

 

Let the white lies begin........

the meaning of my words were as follows, if you go just pick something up with out thinking of what you have chosen and for whom it was chosen but only looked at a high price tag, there for making the gift not of or from the heart there for it truley has no meaning, other than you simpley got your gift list covered,
 
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Afraid, if you're speaking of two people in love, then the gift is from the heart, no matter how hideous or useless it is.  I believe you most likely understand that.

 

If you're giving a gift to someone in general, then it is simply that - a gift - and the person giving the gift should have no expectations of receiving a gift in return.  That's the way I see it.  If I give a gift to someone "just because", I don't want them to feel like they need to give me anything.

 

I'll be married 20 years on the 19th and I can't count the number of gifts that my husband and I gave each other that we just laughed about.  Now, we know each other better (I guess we should) and there are still those "funny" gifts, but also very warm and loving gifts.

 

Now, my family -- may I receive an inspirational jolt in the head for some of them to please them.  No, it's not that bad.  We're the type that feel blessed to have yet another year to see one another.  And speaking of that -- I'm due at my mom's NOW....help!  My sister wants me to bring her lunch  and go to a birthday party that I do not want to go to - so I'm not.  I'm here for my parents.  We're helping her with her house for Christmas, so she doesn't have to work too hard and I'm taking them out to dinner.  I'm already dodging phone calls and that's why I put myself and my daughters in a hotel.  Afraid, pray for me, because I haven't even put my make up on - and it's lunch time. 

 

Let the white lies begin........

just slow the pace down to where you can accomplish your main goals with out worry, its a wonderful thing you are doing for your mother, and she will always remember this day,this is what i meant by giving from the heart, a party would have been much easier on you but you chose to go to your mothers and work this day instead as to ease the burdens from her shoulders, i will pray for you, but know you are already blessed, and your actions prove it beyond a shadow of a dough, i would say your mother is a very lucky woman to have a child as she has in you, you are truly giving the gift of love in your actions, have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and i pray that many follow this one for you with your family.
 
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December 16, 2006, 6:30 pm PST

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you know Dr Phil i think if every one would just remember who's birthday the world is celebrating it would help make the season less stressful, and no matter what some one gave as a gift or didn't give as a gift wouldn't matter, you know looking at this picture makes me think god has Christmas lights in heaven as well, maybe the lord is derogating in heaven as we do here on earth, it does kind of look that way to me.
 
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December 17, 2006, 4:46 am PST

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"It is totally and completely impossible for most husbands to choose clothes for their wives.  Shopping for clothes is an art and most women find it very hard to find the right fit, style, color and fabric when they are shopping for themselves."

First of all...WOW...seriously an "art"? Their clothes, get over it! LOL...second of all. Maybe she should have told him that POLITELY and then she should have GOTTEN OVER IT! Not acted like a brat for 26 years.

You obviously didn't watch the show. He bought this for her 26 years ago..their first Chirstmas together. He hasn't gotten her any gifts since then, so "It is only the 26th time she has had to return his Christmas present." MAKES NO SENSE!

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Point 3.  If he truly cared about his wife's feelings, he would have ask for help from a professional buyer or ask a relative to help him. choose a gift that his wife would love."

What world do you live in? He bought her a gift...he bought her a GIFT. THE ONLY reasonable way a HUMAN BEING should respond to that is to say THANK YOU!

"Like when the ultra conservative grandmother gets a jacket from her daughter-in-law that is the exact color she has been told you revile and it just happens to be two sizes too small, but the  white knit gloves with red and blue snowflakes pattern fit perfectly.

I would say "Get a clue girl." 

  

Here is why Christmas should be for children. 

  

I get a $50.00 gift card for my sister and she gets a $50.00 gift card for me. 

  

If it is truly the thought that counts, then we could exchange fifty dollar bills on Christmas Day and save ourselves the time, gas and energy of buying gift cards. 

  

You receive a nice winter coat for Christmas from your sister, when you live in Jamaica. 

  

Does that thought count. "
 


What? What are you talking about? This is more about YOU than it is the show I see. LOL..well vent away, the fact remains you do NOT know what that husband was thinking and you are supporting someone being an ungrateful BRAT for 26 years!!!

"I stand by my theory.  If that husband had truly cared about his wife, he would have sat down and written a beautiful letter to his wife telling her how much she means to him and how lost he would be without her in his life.  He would thank her for the sacrifices she has made over the years and praise her role of mother and wife over the years.    

  

Now that's a gift no wife would want to return." 



 

Well, ONCE AGAIN, considering the fact that you didn't watch the show, this was their FIRST YEAR OF MARRIAGE so I don't know how he could thank her for years of marriage and a child yet...LOL...so why would someone even bother to buy her a gift again anyway? So she can crap on it too? Why write a letter? So she can complain about the paper and the grammar and spelling? 


Dr Phil is right, you teach people how to treat you and she has taught people to treat her like the rotten brat she is.
 


This woman returned gifts from a 9 year old! What a materialistic FREAK!

This woman returned gifts from a 9 year old! What a materialistic FREAK!

 

Thats a wretched thing to do!

 

I have an 8 year old.  About a week ago, he made me a lil card, hand written, which says,

"to mommy,

have a holly jolly crismas

 hope you do! *smiley face* 

 merry crismas"

 

I think that is going to be my favorite Christmas gift this year!  I have already hung it up so I can  look at it every day. 

 

He made it for me because he wanted to.  No one told him to, no one asked him to.  I believe most kids love to give/make their parents gifts.  As a parent, if you return a 9 year olds gift, what kind of message does that send?  A pretty nasty one if you ask me!

 

 


 
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December 17, 2006, 1:23 pm PST

MARRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

 
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December 17, 2006, 2:42 pm PST

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This woman returned gifts from a 9 year old! What a materialistic FREAK!

 

Thats a wretched thing to do!

 

I have an 8 year old.  About a week ago, he made me a lil card, hand written, which says,

"to mommy,

have a holly jolly crismas

 hope you do! *smiley face* 

 merry crismas"

 

I think that is going to be my favorite Christmas gift this year!  I have already hung it up so I can  look at it every day. 

 

He made it for me because he wanted to.  No one told him to, no one asked him to.  I believe most kids love to give/make their parents gifts.  As a parent, if you return a 9 year olds gift, what kind of message does that send?  A pretty nasty one if you ask me!

 

 


the gift returner has a lot to learn about the receiving and giving of gifts.
 
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December 17, 2006, 3:03 pm PST

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So Val has eleven kids and she mistreats them! Why did she have all these children if she lacks the kind of love, patience or knowledge required to be a good parent? Has she heard about birth control? Or the population problem in the world? Unfortunately, many people who have the most children are the least equipt to properly care for them. We need education about birth control and the financial and emotional impact of having more than two children in this country! I worked at an agency where children were at risk of abuse (and at the poverty level), and every single parent had four to five children! It's been said before, but we need parenting education in our schools!

 

Those three girls were pitiful.  They are so needy it is disturbing.  How could any mother buy preents for some of her children and justify not buying presents for the others.

 

It seems contrived, sadistic and unnecessarily cruel.

 

You are right.  It is so wrong to have so many children, especially so close in age and punish them because they have needs you cannot met.

 

These young girls will repeat the cycle and have children they cannot nurture, because they themselves were not nurtured.

 

 

 

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