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Topic : 12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

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Created on : Friday, December 08, 2006, 02:32:23 pm
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The holidays are here, but some households never experience “peace on earth.” Dr. Phil’s guests refuse to embrace the spirit of the season, and say Christmas is the worst time of the year! Joyce has been married to Rick for 27 years, and has hated the holidays for 26 of those years. She refuses to put up a tree, decorate her house or listen to Christmas carols. Rick says Joyce even flipped out when he tried to dangle some mistletoe over her head!  Joyce has succeeded in ruining her family’s joy, but is she about to destroy her marriage? Then, Val has 11 kids, but says her three daughters stop at nothing to wreck the holidays. One daughter even resorted to breaking her sister’s finger on Christmas day! The constant fighting has pushed Val to consider something drastic. And, find out what special event Robin and Dr. Phil hosted to help celebrate the true holiday spirit! Talk about the show here.

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December 20, 2006, 12:51 pm PST

OMG>>.

I just finished watching this episode.. UNBELIEVABLE is all I can say.. Actually I can say more.. LOL

I come from a family of 11 children... Seven girls, 4 boys... The oldest being 60 and the youngest 41.. Me falling as one of the middle children..Not ONCE has our family ever gone through episodes such as what those 3 sisters are doing to one another.. Not ONCE has my mother shown favoritism.. Even after the death of my father when he was 51 (33 years ago, january 21st) My mother was always just as loving and caring then as she is now... If we had a problem we could go to her... and we still can.. and she's 80.... I sure hope these 4 are going to go for the counselling that was offered to them before it's too late...

 
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December 20, 2006, 2:33 pm PST

Why

I  watched the show and I don't understand how a person can be this way  about Christmas!  Its really sad!    That a person in the family can make  a happy time  a bad time!    Some people must love to be unhappy!   The joy of Christmas is all about Jesus and loveing your family! Doing things nice for others and  being happy!  Everyone has problems every now and  then!  We all need  to try too forget our troubles and share love and Jesus on Christmas!!   Life is too short to waste it. when you need to take that time and spend with family and friends!!  You never know  when something might happen to that person.   Praying for everyone to have a Marry Christmas and not to forget what Christmas is all about Jesus Christ! 
 
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December 20, 2006, 4:41 pm PST

Where the Elves are...

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I think you need to bring the elves over.  Hog tie me and take me to mass!  But you'll have to untie me if i can actually help anybody...

If you live anywhere in So. Cal, the theme park I mentioned in my previous post is Knott's.  It would be so cool if you could take a little trip there.  Talk about an Elf Intervention....their Log Ride is decorated inside with snow and elves and, of course, you have that big drop at the end of the ride!  Screaming your guts out as you are falling down an elf mountian is a great way to get out of rut!  Of course, their little high pitched singing voices are sort of scary.  He, he.  Kind of like munchins who took happy pills.  : )

 

Midnight Mass from the Vatican is shown on TV.  Just to mix everybody up they begin the broadcast at 11:30!  (In So. Cal anyway.)  I think it is NBC.  I love making hot chocolate and lighting a fire and watching that.  Everything is pretty quiet and calm by then.  I turn out the lights and leave on the Christmas Tree lights.  When I get a little tired I lay down on the couch and the music is so soothing.  The voice of the commentator often causes me to drift off to sleep, but I try to stay awake. I enjoy this more than going out in the cold midnight hour to go to the church.  (I usually go to an earlier children's Mass on Christmas Eve and then we have our family celebration.)

 
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December 20, 2006, 5:55 pm PST

One body

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Wow, how sad. I hope your attitude improves because you are carrying around too much frustration and anger.

 

And those bell ringers you hate so much are helping the poor...all those pennies nationwide add up to millions that go to kids and families that have little. God bless them for what they do.

 

I believe if you would celebrate the TRUE meaning of the holiday you would find peace and joy. Giving back to others will make you feel WONDERFUL. The more our family does for others, the happier we are.

 

Don't buy into the commercialism. If you do, it's your choice. We buy gifts for the kids and family because we WANT to. We like the smiles and the close family times together. There are no fights, no complaints...just smiles, laughs, talking, lots of good eats and a chance to be ONE in celebration of a great event...the birth of Christ. We attend mass as a family and help out at a local food pantry that feeds the poor of our city.

 

If you were to take the time to study Christ, you would know that he was a wonderfully caring soul. I'm not telling you to believe he is the Son of God (that's YOUR CHOICE), but it would be great for you to study him to see what is so special about the Christmas season to many of us who DO try to follow the teachings of Christ.

 

God bless. I was once a disinchanted Atheist. I walked around with a big brick on my shoulder. Now, as a practicing Catholic, I am at peace. And I am a much happier and more giving person. The world benefits from happy people. I hope you get there someday.

 

Enjoy your holiday. It's yours to celebrate it as you choose since only God is your judge.

I am a "cradle Catholic" and want say welcome to you.  I don't know when you converted, or if you too were a "cradle Catholic" but lost your way for a while.  I just celebrate that you have embraced Catholicism and Christianity.   After watching a lot of Christian television (while still attending Mass) and going through some personal changes about 15 years ago, I was "born again"  in my heart and began taking my faith more seriously.  The Mass is a wonderful way to worship and celebrate our relationship with God.  It is totally fantastic that you have been given this gift personally from God!  It demonstrates that He believes in us even when we don't believe in Him.

 

Have a Merry and blessed Christmas!

 

 
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December 22, 2006, 5:48 pm PST

12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

 
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December 23, 2006, 2:00 pm PST

DON'T GIVE UP

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My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Please don't give up I have beat ovairn cancer had a radical hest. It soulds like you have fight left in you GO FOR IT DON'T EVER LET CANCER KNOW IT HAS THE UPPER HAD  because you do. thomaslp
 
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December 24, 2006, 4:08 pm PST

Inconsiderate Brother-in-Law

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Okay, this seems petty but I NEED advice....

My BIL likes to come across the country ( he's in BC and I am on the East Coast of Canada), and surprise us.

I HATE SURPRISE VISITORS, I truly do, and I have explained this to him, calmly and rationaly, and so has my husband, but he dosen't get it.

Everyone has told me, " he knows it bothers you, that's why he does it ."

So can someone explain what kind of sick plesure it give a person to do this ?  Even AFTER it has been explained  ?  He figures the rest don't mind, so I have to get over it,ARGHHH.

He also likes to tell us how are kids should be raised, church ( my husband and I are agnostic at best), school ( one is a straight A student the other dyslexic but pulling B's), and everything else, he's childless.

I DREAD the holidays because of him, I know I shouldn't let him have that power over me, but it really hurts to know he has ZERO respect for me or my feelings.

Any advice would be appreciated.

 

Be ready at a moment's notice to leave your house by having Holiday Emergency Luggage packed.  When he rings the doorbell or knocks, meet him at the door with kids and all.  Tell him that it's great he showed up just then -- he can house-sit for you.  You have to make his surprise visiting not worth it for him -- even if it means you spending the night in a hotel (Just make it a good one with a pool for the kids and lots of Xmas decorations, etc., and consider it a present to yourselves.)  However, if he gets the hang of notifying you in advance, really lay out the red carpet for him.

 

Another way is to write him ahead of time and tell him you're going out of town.  Without your house as a destination, he'll have to pick on someone else.

 

If he starts in on you about child rearing, short circuit that by asking when he's going to have children to try his theories on, and ride him about that until he gets the message.  Or ask him when and where he got his degree in child rearing.  Put him on the defensive.  Your kids are getting As and Bs, so you're obviously doing a good job.  Lousy parenting shows up very quickly at school.  Have confidence in your parenting skills.

 

If he starts in about going to church, drop him off at one, preferably one not his denomination.  Either that, or say you've been converted to some obscure (or fictitious) religion, begin chanting at random and insist that he does it, too, or it will fill the house with negative energy.  The kids will love helping with that, particularly if they don't care for his child rearing advice.  You've got a lot of room to get creative here.

 

I understand and sympathize with your dreading the holidays because of him.  Knowing you are going to be disrespected inspires dread in anyone.  He doesn't have any power over you.  You're taking your own power away from yourself because you haven't come up with a plan of action to respond to his rudeness.  Not being able to act makes you feel helpless.  Take your power back by giving yourself permission to respond in kind.  If someone disrespects you, you don't owe them respect, and it's up to them to earn it back.

 

You sound like a very kindhearted person (of which there are far too few on this earth), but too much kindness and politeness can disable you when you're giving it to someone who doesn't deserve it.  Remember, also, it's not just you against him, you've got your husband and children to back you up, and with a little cooperation and planning, you all can have a good time giving him his comeuppance.  If he has a good sense of humor, since he no doubt considers his unannounced visits a pretty good joke, then he ought to take his medicine with a laugh.  If he doesn't, then nuts to him.  This really is his problem and not yours, but you're going to have to work on him a bit, so gird your loins.

 

Best wishes.  I hope I have helped you out a bit.

 
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December 26, 2006, 7:58 pm PST

Something did happen

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The story hasn't aired yet, but I can sort of relate to Joyce's situation as described in the blurb about the show. Maybe something happened in the first Christmas of her marriage that turned her off to it? I was married to a man who berated me mercilessly for the money I spent (which was well within our ability to afford) on Christmas ornaments and a tree for our first Christmas. He insisted Christmas was "just another day" and often refused to buy presents and only joined in the festivities when seriously prodded to do so. I did Christmas every year for the kids, but his attitude permanently ruined the holiday for me. After 13 years, I divorced him (20 years ago) but to this day, I cannot summon up the joy I had in Christmas that first year we were married.

 

Maybe something happened in Joyce's first married Christmas that permanently spoiled it for her?

I'm watching this episode as I write this

 

Yes something did happen beginning w/ how Joyce's husband has rubbed what she did 27 yrs ago in her face.  She didnt like a gift Rick gave her then so she took it back.  Ever since, he wont buy her a gift.

 

Problem I have is that Dr Phil was scolding Joyce for being a scrooge but didnt convince Rick that he had any role in ruining Xmas.  Instead, Dr Phil blames Joyce 100%.  Rick gets into the spirit by putting up a tree, decorations, etc but refuses to buy her a gift based on what happened in the '70s.  Joyce was doing her best to put on a happy face when the family is over but apparently that's not good enough for them.  She needs to have credit due to trying to make the best of it rather than being chastized for not caring for it.  On top of that, its clear that Rick forces it on her instead of letting her come back in the spirit of Xmas at her pace.  I believe if you want someone to like something or someone, you are to let them come to terms at their pace.  If you try to make them like it when they're not ready, it'll only hinder progress.

 

At the beginning of the show, Dr Phil set the tone that not getting into Xmas is taboo.  We've had it rammed down our throat w/ the massive commercialism we're bombarded w/ for several months out of the year to the point that its pushing Halloween out of the spotlight.  When I was growing up, the Xmas fiasco didnt start until near T-Giving and we didnt have 5 months of bills.  He, like others, needs to accept that the commercialism, extremely slow music, and decorating isnt for everyone and it doesnt make us scrooges or black sheep.

 
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December 26, 2006, 8:03 pm PST

Easier said than done

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Why would you let someone control your life like that? My ex hated Christmas and tried to ruin it... I laughed at the the idiot ,and told him to bugger off and grow up. No one controls me.
Way WAY WAAAAAAAAAAY easier said than done!  If you're actually able to do this, I truly envy your Vulcan-like ability to control your feelings.  I've known many to preach this but havent met anyone who can pull it off.
 
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December 26, 2006, 8:10 pm PST

Where's the respect?

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I don't celabrate this holiday at all i agree with her 100%.  Where is the respect for those who don't  care abouth this holiday.   Noybody really celeabrates the holiday for the right reasons anymore so whats the BIG DEAL!!!!!

You're preaching to the choir.  I dont understand the taboo either.  Xmas is about gifts and meeting w/ the family along w/ the stress involved.  I think families should get together whether its a holiday or not.  As for the giftmas "holiday", not too many celebrate the reason for the season.  It would be nice if others would be more accepting of others who arent into it instead of calling us names and making false assumptions.  I didnt have a pivital moment to where I hated Giftmas but grew slowly to not care for it.

 

I continue to watch this Dr Phil episode and I swear someone's inhabiting his body.  His opinions are very different than what I'm used to.  His insight is not as deep as usual and he's missing so much of what the "scrooges" are trying to communicate.

 
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