Topic : 12/13 Holiday Horror Stories

In my family, we reached an agreement that we no longer exchange gifts.  That's just the agreement.  It's not greedy and is less materialistic than forcing ppl to feel obligation.  Do you HAVE 11 children?  Then how can you judge someone who does?

BTW, having a debate is fine as long as your points are well researched and devoid of sheer emotion, but it seems you keep letting your emotions control your arguments (i.e. our gun control debate, mine used examples, and i didn't see any revelance to your argument).

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Those three girls were pitiful. They are so needy it is disturbing. How could any mother buy preents for some of her children and justify not buying presents for the others.

It seems contrived, sadistic and unnecessarily cruel.

You are right. It is so wrong to have so many children, especially so close in age and punish them because they have needs you cannot met.

These young girls will repeat the cycle and have children they cannot nurture, because they themselves were not nurtured.   /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////  and this was my responce to what i read.////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////the mother would seem to use this holy time of year to punish her children  by making one feel not as worthy as the other!

Have you ever checked out GOOGLE Earth?

It's very interesting.  If you haven't, try it - seems like something you would like.

yeah i did but this computer hasnt got a big enough drive to use it, but what i got to do was great with it my system just ran so slow i had to remove it from it.

As far as gift giving goes, I like it.  And see no reason to leave out anyone.  Got yelled at once because I gave someone a Christmas gift and he didn't have one for me, or was that a card?  Well, anyway it wasn't a pleasant experience.  He happened to be taking me out to dinner at a very nice restaurant that night too, which I thought of as a gift!  So, hey, who can figure people out?  Then the next year he brought me champagne and nice glasses and shared it with me. 

I'm a gift giver and no one can stop me!  I am also extremely good at getting good things for a bargain and average about $12 for each gift.  This year I discovered Amazon and got my first $30 free.  Even with the one day shipping I only ended up owing less than $5 for one CD and one DVD.   So, $2.50 for two people!  I got them both another gift since I did so well on that deal. Both of my sisters are pretty good at it getting deals too.  We give "thoughtful" type gifts in my family and extended family and so don't stress too much.  We were all hurting for money this year, but everyone exchanged gifts. 

What I think is the best gift, though, is the gift of time.  Going out to see a Christmas play with someone you know will enjoy it, or taking someone out to dinner at a restaurant they love, or even just offering to do shopping for them if they can't get out or get to it themselves.

What you don't need is to judge first and think later.  I can tell youre offended by anyone speaking their mind.  If that's what they've agreed to, then that's what they've agreed to.  Why do you care?

The fighting is just a symptom that something else is wrong.  It means they seem to need attention and have some kind of Histrionicism/Narcissism going on.  It's not about not being nurtured.  A piece of plastic won't change that.  Getting therapy might.