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Discussions about issues, challenges and strategies for people who plan on losing 200 or more pounds.

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November 14, 2005, 3:50 am PST

sounds like a strategy to me !!! Congratulations !!!!

I took me a while to discover my eating style... didn't even know there was such a thing at first... I had to experiment to see what worked best for me.  I first tried small quick meals... and that worked..  then I tried LARGE meals... and that worked even better for me. 

  

I like to "eat a lot"...to feel  full ...a full  stomach and to have that chemical balance shift that says "full"....   I don't do that for every meal...   but when I plan one that I consider "perfect" for me..I have a handful of protein...and a bushel of rabbit foods.. some cooked.. some raw...lots of flavors and textures... and flavored waters.    My salads with fresh lemon and feta cheese crumblings are better than cake... really..  

  

I drop pounds like crazy on this kind of eating....    The only drawback is that it's a lot of work keeping that level of veggies in the house and preparing them...  There are only a few places where I can get that volumn of veggies when we eat out...          I would like for my idea eating plan to be totally easy....I'm working on that. 

  

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November 14, 2005, 9:30 am PST

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, WOODY!

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I had a blast. Everything was kind on the fly. My wife wanted me to make some solid plans but, I didn't feel like setting a certain day to celebrate. Last Friday I did decide to get some friends together. On Sat. I made a huge pot of Chili with ground sirloin. I went with chili because it is user friendly to people coming and going all day and you can keep it healthy. First I had my best friend over for a few hours and then a group of us went up to Doyle's(the bar I bartend at). I did have a few drinks for my birthday and I don't even feel guilty because I did 45 min of cardio sat. morn and worked out for 30 min. with my trainer. I had chili for dinner so I felt no need to order any food at the bar. A bunch of people I know came up there was probably about 15 of us along with several of my regulars. Stayed for a few hours and took a cab home. My wife bought me an I-Pod for my birthday. She saved up for it for a couple months behind my back so it was a real surprise. I have used it a ton already at the gym. It makes working out so much better when you have great music. 

I received a ton of phone calls from family and friends. It felt good. In the past I would hide on such events because of my weight. I would not want people who knew me smaller to see me at this weight. Some of my friends have seen me gain over 200lbs in 10 years. At least now I can tell them I am working on it. They know I am serious this time. They can see a change in me.  

  

  

Tuesday is the 14 week weigh in. I have not weighed myself in two weeks but in that time I have Worked out 10 days and I have done full cardio of 40min or more 8 of those days. I feel great. My work paints at the bar over 2 sizes to big and I have had to make three new holes in my belt. I'm not trying to brag I just want people like IDEALW8 to know that there is real hope. With over 200lbs to lose I have found real value in Dr. Phil's book and I believe it can help you to if you let it. I really believe in the value of positive self-dialog. Positive thoughts can carry over into positive movement. I used to think that I would not be happy until I lost 200lbs but the fact is I am happy just being on the journey to weight loss. I was so surprise how good It felt just a week into my journey. Just doing something about my weight makes me feel like I am in control again. I know if I can just keep on doing what I am doing there will be positive results and I will reach my goals.  

  

  

Kay-as far as the newspaper they have not printed the article yet. Maybe next week. I am still not to sure how it will turn out. I would not recommend this as a normal way to hold your self accountable.  

I just think how cool it could be.  

  

-wood  

Your birthday celebration sounds like so many of your posts--committed and in control. Congratulations!! You really have such determination and I'm anxious to hear the amount lost, but more important I'm so happy to hear (and inspired, of course) that you are making progress in many ways, not just those that can be measured on the scales. There is hope and it takes coming here regularly and reading posts like yours to re-inforce that message for me and I'm sure for many others. Thanks so much for sharing your celebration with us. 

 

Have a great YEAR! 

 

Cherie 

 

 
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November 14, 2005, 9:34 am PST

What a great insight!

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We often look at how far we haven't come.  We often think about how we know we arn't going to do as well as we promise ourselves just look at the past.  However, I stand here today despite dark days with a new picture.  I stand here today over 84lbs lighter and I walk when everyone said it was too much for me.  I stand here today.   Today is all we need to work with.  If we made any progress today then the past and tommorrow don't matter.  And when I speak of progress I'm not just talking numbers and inches, I'm talking forgiveness and compassion.  We need to forgive the dark inner voice and then show it the door.... just for today.... just for this moment.  Today let's hold ourselves in high regard.  Let's stand up and say just for today we are inside the person we have always wanted to be and do something good, healthy and nice for ourselves because that's who we are.  We are not tommorrow.  We are not yesterday.  We are now and we can do anything now that is within our means and especially with our friends.    Be kind to yourself now.  It's your right.  Be good to yourself now.  You can and deep inside you want to.  Give yourself permission to be the wonderful person you are.  Take care and have a wonderful moment.  Love always, your friend in this moment, Dee.

In my head I know this message, but you put it so well--so clearly--that it got my attention again. I've been moping around because of the gains I have had during the stress of this move. And I've been planning for "after we're settled" to get back on track. But you are so right. We have only TODAY. NOW. THIS MINUTE. We have the present time to life ourselves up out of the darkness and forgive the past and do all we can to be healthy right now. Thanks for the reminder. 

 

Cherie 

  

 
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November 14, 2005, 9:40 am PST

Holding your own

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... to identify the source of my feelings. 

  

  

Some of this dark feeling is despair - good old fashioned chickening out, poor self esteem, laziness, childishness, etc. 

  

  

But some may be fall-out from improvement. 1, 2, or 3 years ago this much depression would have me at 500+ lbs, not holding my own at 405. 

  

  

Weeks, & weeks, & weeks, & weeks at 405. Grr. 

  

  

Starting today, I am going to prepare all meals for the next day, the night before. Not just plan a meal, but make it so that all I have to do is run into the kitchen, grab a container, and leave. This should help.  

It may be frustrating to be holding your own, but that in itself is success. As you said, in the past this depression would have sent you spiraling upwards and that has not happened this time. Congratulations!! You are having success in your life right now today. And by planning AND FIXING the food for tomorrow, you are making sure you will have losses again in the coming days and weeks ahead.  

 

Don't we all have poor self-esteem? Isn't that one of the things we all have in common, besides just being fat? And I do think we also have those dark days in common. But I do read glimmers of hope and commitment renewed in your post. Hang in there Megan. We're here for you and we KNOW you can do it. You are a beautiful creative person and that creativity will draw you out of this slump you're in AND SO WILL WE. Just keep coming back here. See, it's working already..... 

 

Have a great day--tell us what you're fixing for tomorrow. I need a little motivation to get back on track with the planning and fixing ahead myself. FlyLady even set the "Habit of the Month" to be menu planning--it's almost as if she were a lurker on this board. And while I used to plan the month in advance and did quite well sticking to the plan, that habit has gone by the wayside during the moving and packing. It's hard to plan ahead for meals when you have no pans left, have packed the spices and staples on the shelves, and eat most meals out. I am back on track with my healthy breakfasts now though--for the past 5 days. Now I just need to plan and follow through with the lunches and dinners. 

 

Hang in there and have a beautiful day. 

 

Cherie 

  

 
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November 14, 2005, 12:37 pm PST

High Blood Pressure? Me?

My Doctor's Appt. Friday was not bad, but not good, either.  For the first time in my life I had high blood pressure(160/98).   I know it could be a lot worse, but it is usually low.   My  Dr. did'nt believe it and had the nurse take me to another room and take it again to be sure.  It was still high.  My Dr. then ordered medicine for it.  My sister (a nurse for 30+ years) says it is just because I'm getting old. (50 this year).   I  wonder if it could be all the vitamins I have been taking the last few months, (iron,C,B12).  Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?   

  

My Dr. also INSISTS that I have a Sleep Study done.  This the second time she has made the arrangements for it.  Last time, I cancelled it.  I have SEVERE insomnia,  missing an entire night's sleep once or twice a week.   I once was awake 5 nights and 6 days without a nap.  If I can't sleep at home, I know I could't go to sleep at will in a hospital room attached to monitors.  My doctor said she would order Valium for me, but, wouldn't that affect the results of the Sleep Study?  I know I probably have Sleep Apnea - Why do I need proof?  I think what bothers me most is my Dr.'s insistence that I do the Study  against my will.  Shouldn't I have the right to decide what medical tests I undergo?  Oh well, maybe I need another doctor? 

 
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November 14, 2005, 5:19 pm PST

Are you truly stuck?

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... to identify the source of my feelings. 

  

  

Some of this dark feeling is despair - good old fashioned chickening out, poor self esteem, laziness, childishness, etc. 

  

  

But some may be fall-out from improvement. 1, 2, or 3 years ago this much depression would have me at 500+ lbs, not holding my own at 405. 

  

  

Weeks, & weeks, & weeks, & weeks at 405. Grr. 

  

  

Starting today, I am going to prepare all meals for the next day, the night before. Not just plan a meal, but make it so that all I have to do is run into the kitchen, grab a container, and leave. This should help.  

Megan!  Hi!  Look at how far you've come.  Look at the progress beyond the numbers girl!  You're posting here.  You're talking. You're sharing.  You know there's so much more to you than just numbers!  Remember what you can do and what you have done that's positive.  Remember.  Hugs from Dee!
 
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November 14, 2005, 7:24 pm PST

Later...

Just a quick note to say I won't be around much for awhile...major computer crash...lost months of work...regular back-ups saved some stuff, thank goodness. But can't do email yet, or most programs...hmmm...wonder what the complaints were in the "old days"...Drat! I broke the tip off my quill ink dip pen!! Blast it all, ran out of oil for my lantern so cannot see to...............................I am grateful I am not in the middle of an ebay auction!! .............can't get online often right now, so take care all....and sending a big hug to Megan!!!!! Loretta in Oregon =^..^=
 
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November 15, 2005, 10:35 am PST

doctors

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My Doctor's Appt. Friday was not bad, but not good, either.  For the first time in my life I had high blood pressure(160/98).   I know it could be a lot worse, but it is usually low.   My  Dr. did'nt believe it and had the nurse take me to another room and take it again to be sure.  It was still high.  My Dr. then ordered medicine for it.  My sister (a nurse for 30+ years) says it is just because I'm getting old. (50 this year).   I  wonder if it could be all the vitamins I have been taking the last few months, (iron,C,B12).  Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?   

  

My Dr. also INSISTS that I have a Sleep Study done.  This the second time she has made the arrangements for it.  Last time, I cancelled it.  I have SEVERE insomnia,  missing an entire night's sleep once or twice a week.   I once was awake 5 nights and 6 days without a nap.  If I can't sleep at home, I know I could't go to sleep at will in a hospital room attached to monitors.  My doctor said she would order Valium for me, but, wouldn't that affect the results of the Sleep Study?  I know I probably have Sleep Apnea - Why do I need proof?  I think what bothers me most is my Dr.'s insistence that I do the Study  against my will.  Shouldn't I have the right to decide what medical tests I undergo?  Oh well, maybe I need another doctor? 

Sometimes our doctors can seem overbearing, but we need to remember that THEY are the ones who study their field, not us. We may know our bodies, but there is so much involved in each facet of our health. It is important to listen to what the doctor tells you. Your blood pressure may have been elevated slightly because you were at the doctor's office (most people have a slight rise just because of that) but it may also be high (as mine was) due to excess swelling and water retention. A small dose of a diarrhetic brought miine down to its former low normal level and now I would not be without it. Yes, I still retain liquid often, but not nearly as bad as before. So my doctor was right in giving me that prescription. 

 

As for the sleep apnea, I think many of us who are overweight have it to some degree. What I did not realize was how important this is. Nor did I realize that the doctors cannot prescribe the machine that will help you continue to breathe while you are asleep UNLESS you go to a sleep clinic for the sleep study. It is a great liability for the doctor to prescribe without definitive proof that you have it and the sleep study is the only way to get that proof. And what happens when you have sleep apnea? Why is it important to get that treatment? Because sleep apnea means that several times during the night when you sleep you quit breathing. That means NO OXYGEN is getting into your bloodstream and no oxygen is getting to your brain and other organs. Severe brain damage can be the result. I just visited my aunt last Friday (my favorite aunt, btw) and it broke my heart. She has sleep apnea and didn't think she needed to have oxygen during the night NOR the C-PAP machine that helps pump it into her lungs while she sleeps to keep her breathing regularly in spite of the apnea. She now has severe dementia--cannot live on her own any more. She is my mother's baby sister--all her siblings are from 3 to 10 years older and none of them has any sign of dementia or disability. It is so sad to see this once active, vibrant woman reduced to her present state. All because she "knew" she didn't really need that--she "knew" better than her doctors. So please PLEASE listen to your doctor. Otherwise, why even bother going to one? Your doctor insists because she is a GOOD, CARING doctor--she cares about your health.  

 

Yes, you do have the right to decide which medical tests you will undergo. You also have the right to stand in the middle of the highway until you get run over. Choosing to switch doctors may take you on a tour until you find one who doesn't care enough to order the tests you need to save and enhance your life and your health. But why bother with that? If you don't want a doctor who will care for you, just quit going altogether and save yourself a lot of time going in for checkups. You do have the right to deteriorate to your heart's content, but I, for one, hope you choose to live--and live a HEALTHY lifestyle. That's what this board is all about. And we DO care whether or not you breathe in your sleep and we do care that you take good care of yourself. 

 

Sleep apnea is NOT necessarily related to insomnia. You may have trouble sleeping for an entirely different reason. It's possible that the valium may just relax you enough so you COULD sleep during the sleep study. Or maybe it wouldn't work. But unless and until you give it a try, you AND YOUR DOCTOR don't know that for sure. It just might save your life. I know my aunt would be a totally different person if she had followed her doctor's pleading to have her sleep study and follow his orders. Please don't be so stubborn with this and so careless regarding your health. 

 

WE DO CARE HERE. 

 

Cherie 

  

 
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November 15, 2005, 10:37 am PST

hang in there

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Just a quick note to say I won't be around much for awhile...major computer crash...lost months of work...regular back-ups saved some stuff, thank goodness. But can't do email yet, or most programs...hmmm...wonder what the complaints were in the "old days"...Drat! I broke the tip off my quill ink dip pen!! Blast it all, ran out of oil for my lantern so cannot see to...............................I am grateful I am not in the middle of an ebay auction!! .............can't get online often right now, so take care all....and sending a big hug to Megan!!!!! Loretta in Oregon =..=

Computer problems are a pain! I can sympathize and we will all miss you. Hope it's all resolved soon. 

 

Have a great day each day you are offline. 

 

Cherie 

  

 
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November 15, 2005, 3:00 pm PST

200 Pounds or More to Lose

 Megan, just want to let you know that you are not alone. I had been stuck at a certain weight for 4 weeks.  I did my best to keep my food right and also keep up IE.  It seemed like the scale would not ever budge.  Even the tape measure wasn't friendly.  I had expected to run into a plateau , sooner or later.  But expecting one and being a month into one, are two different things.  I talked to a trainer @ the Y and he encouraged me to just keep doing all the right things, no matter how it looked, and sooner or later it would be over.  Ha! Just what I wanted to hear.

Well, this morning , it finally happened !!  Down 4 lbs!!!   I haven't had a 4 lb loss at one time , for what seems like a long time. I am very thankful.

I tried to stay focused on all the good lifestyle changes that I have made , and continue them.  Knowing  that if I did not do that , then the next change the numbers made would be going up.  Don't want that, have worked way to hard to give up now. I keep doing this one day at a time.
 Must go for now , a tornado has struck our town and we are trying to reach family.

cheryl   290/175/150
 
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