Topic : How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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December 17, 2006, 5:03 pm PST

i forgot to add

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16 is the average age for a boy to lose  their virginity.  And I'm pretty sure it is 15 for girls.  Looks like you might want to prepare yourself because you have very little influence over that.  Its not like your gonna catch him, but when he's turns 16 it has nothing to do you as parent preparing him.  He's gonna do what he's gonna do. 

if we could take this over to the other board so that we can leave this one for support.

 

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December 17, 2006, 5:08 pm PST

He does not want me anymore

A few months back I posted that my boyfriend was addicted to porn. He gave it up for me because I was going to leave him. But now he does not have much desire for me and he warned me that he would change if I took the porn away from him. He now sais that he does not have much of a drive because he had to give up porn. I feel better that he gave it up but now I feel almost worse than  before because it seems that he needed porn to get aroused to be with me. He sais sometimes that it is not that, but that it is that he feels trapped because he can not do something that he has done all of his life for fear he will loose me. So what is it really, did he need porn to be turned on or is he just being selfish because he had to give it up.
 
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December 17, 2006, 5:23 pm PST

in my opinion

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A few months back I posted that my boyfriend was addicted to porn. He gave it up for me because I was going to leave him. But now he does not have much desire for me and he warned me that he would change if I took the porn away from him. He now sais that he does not have much of a drive because he had to give up porn. I feel better that he gave it up but now I feel almost worse than  before because it seems that he needed porn to get aroused to be with me. He sais sometimes that it is not that, but that it is that he feels trapped because he can not do something that he has done all of his life for fear he will loose me. So what is it really, did he need porn to be turned on or is he just being selfish because he had to give it up.

he is feeding you a line. And a good chance he has not given up the porn at all and that is why he is not having sex with you. Addiction to porn usually leads to a disruption in a person's sex life.

 

My question would be at this point....why have you not left? Addiction is a life long thing and if he is blaming you for everything...then really has anything gotten any better?

 
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December 17, 2006, 6:45 pm PST

Hello again all

I don't know if anyone will remember me, but I'm Amber from Australia - I posted a few times on the board in July, after discovering my boyfriend Ben's hidden stash of porn ( the third I'd found in two years). Darcylove or Roxybelle might remember me? Anyway, we had a huge upheaval in our relationship, though I decided to stay with him - part of this decision rested on that I believed that simply leaving him (without support) would not at all help his sexual obsession, and instead may even fuel it. I have recently begun to trust him again, though not let down my guard totally... which has lead to me discovering his attempts to access porn on the internet this weekend, during which I have been at my parents.

 

Part of my condition of staying with him was that I was going to put a 'net nanny' type program on the computer which I did. It restricts 'adult content' websites whilst still allowing him to use the internet, and has been great - for me, anyway.

 

Ben has recently discovered You Tube which has made me very wary indeed, hence the reasons I have become more controlling, and been checking his online activities. (a problem I will probably discuss later, or in another post). So of course, when I got home from my parents this morning (it's now monday here, 1.22pm) I checked up on his activites. He visited YouTube of course, veiwed a couple of videos (though I don't know exactly which ones, as the McAfee program only reports 'websites visited' and 'websites blocked', but they can't have been too bad or I think the program would have blocked them....I hope). He's then tried to visit a porn site.

 

After our last - and biggest - 'i found porn again' fight, even though I knew he would always be addicted to porn, I didn't think he'd relapse so soon. He'll be home from work in half an hour, and thankfully I have calmed down enough from my initial shock-dismay-anger phase this morning to the 'acceptance and resolution' one, where I am planning to sit him down and talk to him about this (as this will be the fourth time, I am beginning to get over the shock quicker each time). We don't have enough money to be able to put him, or myself through counselling which is a real shame. I did buy Dr Phil's Relationship Rescue book, though unfortunately Ben does not enjoy reading and so hasn't touched. Of course, I read it cover to cover!

 

Please excuse this post for being rambly, or anything else. I know realise I should never have left the board, and won't do so again! Without the support of anyone else, it can be so hard to keep it together can't it...it's so amazing to be able to talk so intimately with other people in the same position. I truly believe that Ben has a problem, a disease, and whether or not it's my responsiblity to help him manage it I am still trying to work out. We love each other so much, we're simply best friends and do/go everywhere together. We've lived together for 18 months and are practically inseperable...and we are on the cusp of getting engaged.

 

But do I want to spend my life with someone who has such a disease? It's the horrible question I try to force myself to answer, but simply can't. I just take each day as it comes.

 

I had a thought this morning - I think that perhaps being only 'accountable' to me may not be the best thing. As we can't afford a counsellor, I was considering that perhaps I should talk to Ben's Mum about it. She's an amazing woman (she has five boys!!) and treats me as a part of the family. She is very reasonable and has gone through a lot (two divorces). I think if Ben felt that he had someone else to talk to about it (his Mum) then she could support him through it too. They are very close, but she has no idea at all that we have had such problems, as I always put on a brave face no matter how I am feeling.

 

Can anyone give me advice on this? I know it would betray his confidence to go behind his back and tell his mother, but I truly feel that if Ben is to - at the very least -control this for the rest of his life, even if I'm not in it, he needs someone who loves him but that he can be accountable to also to support him. I also can't carry this burden alone.

 

Thanks everyone

:) Amber

 
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December 17, 2006, 8:41 pm PST

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A few months back I posted that my boyfriend was addicted to porn. He gave it up for me because I was going to leave him. But now he does not have much desire for me and he warned me that he would change if I took the porn away from him. He now sais that he does not have much of a drive because he had to give up porn. I feel better that he gave it up but now I feel almost worse than  before because it seems that he needed porn to get aroused to be with me. He sais sometimes that it is not that, but that it is that he feels trapped because he can not do something that he has done all of his life for fear he will loose me. So what is it really, did he need porn to be turned on or is he just being selfish because he had to give it up.
 I'd like to respond to this on the other board because it may sound more like a debate.
 
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December 18, 2006, 3:32 am PST

Hello Kitty.

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A few months back I posted that my boyfriend was addicted to porn. He gave it up for me because I was going to leave him. But now he does not have much desire for me and he warned me that he would change if I took the porn away from him. He now sais that he does not have much of a drive because he had to give up porn. I feel better that he gave it up but now I feel almost worse than  before because it seems that he needed porn to get aroused to be with me. He sais sometimes that it is not that, but that it is that he feels trapped because he can not do something that he has done all of his life for fear he will loose me. So what is it really, did he need porn to be turned on or is he just being selfish because he had to give it up.

I agree with Darcy that he is maniuplating you into believing you are the cause of his lack of sex drive and the cause of his porn use. Let me ask you something? How long can a person blame someone else for doing what they are doing and get away with it? I am so sick of hearing how porn gets a guy in the mood...what is the matter with these guys that they are not able to get in the mood naturally? Partly, desensitization, part laziness, part selfishness, part machoism. From what I can tell, if a man that used porn to get off in the past, now no longer does, he is raging with sexuality and he would be all over his woman!!!!!!!Its not the lack of porn that is making him not sexual and he needs to be able to be honest with you as to what is going on his life....if he is not honest about his thoughts, behaviors, you can guess all you want and will come up with only guesses, assumptions.

 

PS. How long has it been since the two of you made love?

 
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December 18, 2006, 7:37 am PST

welcome back

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I don't know if anyone will remember me, but I'm Amber from Australia - I posted a few times on the board in July, after discovering my boyfriend Ben's hidden stash of porn ( the third I'd found in two years). Darcylove or Roxybelle might remember me? Anyway, we had a huge upheaval in our relationship, though I decided to stay with him - part of this decision rested on that I believed that simply leaving him (without support) would not at all help his sexual obsession, and instead may even fuel it. I have recently begun to trust him again, though not let down my guard totally... which has lead to me discovering his attempts to access porn on the internet this weekend, during which I have been at my parents.

 

Part of my condition of staying with him was that I was going to put a 'net nanny' type program on the computer which I did. It restricts 'adult content' websites whilst still allowing him to use the internet, and has been great - for me, anyway.

 

Ben has recently discovered You Tube which has made me very wary indeed, hence the reasons I have become more controlling, and been checking his online activities. (a problem I will probably discuss later, or in another post). So of course, when I got home from my parents this morning (it's now monday here, 1.22pm) I checked up on his activites. He visited YouTube of course, veiwed a couple of videos (though I don't know exactly which ones, as the McAfee program only reports 'websites visited' and 'websites blocked', but they can't have been too bad or I think the program would have blocked them....I hope). He's then tried to visit a porn site.

 

After our last - and biggest - 'i found porn again' fight, even though I knew he would always be addicted to porn, I didn't think he'd relapse so soon. He'll be home from work in half an hour, and thankfully I have calmed down enough from my initial shock-dismay-anger phase this morning to the 'acceptance and resolution' one, where I am planning to sit him down and talk to him about this (as this will be the fourth time, I am beginning to get over the shock quicker each time). We don't have enough money to be able to put him, or myself through counselling which is a real shame. I did buy Dr Phil's Relationship Rescue book, though unfortunately Ben does not enjoy reading and so hasn't touched. Of course, I read it cover to cover!

 

Please excuse this post for being rambly, or anything else. I know realise I should never have left the board, and won't do so again! Without the support of anyone else, it can be so hard to keep it together can't it...it's so amazing to be able to talk so intimately with other people in the same position. I truly believe that Ben has a problem, a disease, and whether or not it's my responsiblity to help him manage it I am still trying to work out. We love each other so much, we're simply best friends and do/go everywhere together. We've lived together for 18 months and are practically inseperable...and we are on the cusp of getting engaged.

 

But do I want to spend my life with someone who has such a disease? It's the horrible question I try to force myself to answer, but simply can't. I just take each day as it comes.

 

I had a thought this morning - I think that perhaps being only 'accountable' to me may not be the best thing. As we can't afford a counsellor, I was considering that perhaps I should talk to Ben's Mum about it. She's an amazing woman (she has five boys!!) and treats me as a part of the family. She is very reasonable and has gone through a lot (two divorces). I think if Ben felt that he had someone else to talk to about it (his Mum) then she could support him through it too. They are very close, but she has no idea at all that we have had such problems, as I always put on a brave face no matter how I am feeling.

 

Can anyone give me advice on this? I know it would betray his confidence to go behind his back and tell his mother, but I truly feel that if Ben is to - at the very least -control this for the rest of his life, even if I'm not in it, he needs someone who loves him but that he can be accountable to also to support him. I also can't carry this burden alone.

 

Thanks everyone

:) Amber

First...i wouldn't talk to ben's mom about this.  This addiction is very embarrassing I am sure to him. And it is not something I would feel comfortable taking to my husband's family. That would sure be a kick in the ass to the addict I would think. IMO

 

Secondly...if you can't afford counseling I would look for support places he can get involved with. Start with SAA (sexual addicts annymous). If you type SAA in google....you will find it pretty quick. Also you can look for COSA (co-dependents of sexual addicts). They also have support groups.

 

Finally.....get yourself a Dr Patrick Carnes book. He writes on sexual addictions and his books may help him figure out some things.

 

Take care and please visit here as often as you feel necessary. Maybe send him here....that may also give him some support.

 

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December 18, 2006, 10:07 am PST

How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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I don't know if anyone will remember me, but I'm Amber from Australia - I posted a few times on the board in July, after discovering my boyfriend Ben's hidden stash of porn ( the third I'd found in two years). Darcylove or Roxybelle might remember me? Anyway, we had a huge upheaval in our relationship, though I decided to stay with him - part of this decision rested on that I believed that simply leaving him (without support) would not at all help his sexual obsession, and instead may even fuel it. I have recently begun to trust him again, though not let down my guard totally... which has lead to me discovering his attempts to access porn on the internet this weekend, during which I have been at my parents.

 

Part of my condition of staying with him was that I was going to put a 'net nanny' type program on the computer which I did. It restricts 'adult content' websites whilst still allowing him to use the internet, and has been great - for me, anyway.

 

Ben has recently discovered You Tube which has made me very wary indeed, hence the reasons I have become more controlling, and been checking his online activities. (a problem I will probably discuss later, or in another post). So of course, when I got home from my parents this morning (it's now monday here, 1.22pm) I checked up on his activites. He visited YouTube of course, veiwed a couple of videos (though I don't know exactly which ones, as the McAfee program only reports 'websites visited' and 'websites blocked', but they can't have been too bad or I think the program would have blocked them....I hope). He's then tried to visit a porn site.

 

After our last - and biggest - 'i found porn again' fight, even though I knew he would always be addicted to porn, I didn't think he'd relapse so soon. He'll be home from work in half an hour, and thankfully I have calmed down enough from my initial shock-dismay-anger phase this morning to the 'acceptance and resolution' one, where I am planning to sit him down and talk to him about this (as this will be the fourth time, I am beginning to get over the shock quicker each time). We don't have enough money to be able to put him, or myself through counselling which is a real shame. I did buy Dr Phil's Relationship Rescue book, though unfortunately Ben does not enjoy reading and so hasn't touched. Of course, I read it cover to cover!

 

Please excuse this post for being rambly, or anything else. I know realise I should never have left the board, and won't do so again! Without the support of anyone else, it can be so hard to keep it together can't it...it's so amazing to be able to talk so intimately with other people in the same position. I truly believe that Ben has a problem, a disease, and whether or not it's my responsiblity to help him manage it I am still trying to work out. We love each other so much, we're simply best friends and do/go everywhere together. We've lived together for 18 months and are practically inseperable...and we are on the cusp of getting engaged.

 

But do I want to spend my life with someone who has such a disease? It's the horrible question I try to force myself to answer, but simply can't. I just take each day as it comes.

 

I had a thought this morning - I think that perhaps being only 'accountable' to me may not be the best thing. As we can't afford a counsellor, I was considering that perhaps I should talk to Ben's Mum about it. She's an amazing woman (she has five boys!!) and treats me as a part of the family. She is very reasonable and has gone through a lot (two divorces). I think if Ben felt that he had someone else to talk to about it (his Mum) then she could support him through it too. They are very close, but she has no idea at all that we have had such problems, as I always put on a brave face no matter how I am feeling.

 

Can anyone give me advice on this? I know it would betray his confidence to go behind his back and tell his mother, but I truly feel that if Ben is to - at the very least -control this for the rest of his life, even if I'm not in it, he needs someone who loves him but that he can be accountable to also to support him. I also can't carry this burden alone.

 

Thanks everyone

:) Amber

Ouch, your willing to tell his mom behind his back!  That might be taking it a little too far.  He might really take it personally that you would do something like that.  A guy's mom is the last person they'd ever want to talk to about a porn addiction. 
 
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December 18, 2006, 10:16 am PST

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I don't know if anyone will remember me, but I'm Amber from Australia - I posted a few times on the board in July, after discovering my boyfriend Ben's hidden stash of porn ( the third I'd found in two years). Darcylove or Roxybelle might remember me? Anyway, we had a huge upheaval in our relationship, though I decided to stay with him - part of this decision rested on that I believed that simply leaving him (without support) would not at all help his sexual obsession, and instead may even fuel it. I have recently begun to trust him again, though not let down my guard totally... which has lead to me discovering his attempts to access porn on the internet this weekend, during which I have been at my parents.

 

Part of my condition of staying with him was that I was going to put a 'net nanny' type program on the computer which I did. It restricts 'adult content' websites whilst still allowing him to use the internet, and has been great - for me, anyway.

 

Ben has recently discovered You Tube which has made me very wary indeed, hence the reasons I have become more controlling, and been checking his online activities. (a problem I will probably discuss later, or in another post). So of course, when I got home from my parents this morning (it's now monday here, 1.22pm) I checked up on his activites. He visited YouTube of course, veiwed a couple of videos (though I don't know exactly which ones, as the McAfee program only reports 'websites visited' and 'websites blocked', but they can't have been too bad or I think the program would have blocked them....I hope). He's then tried to visit a porn site.

 

After our last - and biggest - 'i found porn again' fight, even though I knew he would always be addicted to porn, I didn't think he'd relapse so soon. He'll be home from work in half an hour, and thankfully I have calmed down enough from my initial shock-dismay-anger phase this morning to the 'acceptance and resolution' one, where I am planning to sit him down and talk to him about this (as this will be the fourth time, I am beginning to get over the shock quicker each time). We don't have enough money to be able to put him, or myself through counselling which is a real shame. I did buy Dr Phil's Relationship Rescue book, though unfortunately Ben does not enjoy reading and so hasn't touched. Of course, I read it cover to cover!

 

Please excuse this post for being rambly, or anything else. I know realise I should never have left the board, and won't do so again! Without the support of anyone else, it can be so hard to keep it together can't it...it's so amazing to be able to talk so intimately with other people in the same position. I truly believe that Ben has a problem, a disease, and whether or not it's my responsiblity to help him manage it I am still trying to work out. We love each other so much, we're simply best friends and do/go everywhere together. We've lived together for 18 months and are practically inseperable...and we are on the cusp of getting engaged.

 

But do I want to spend my life with someone who has such a disease? It's the horrible question I try to force myself to answer, but simply can't. I just take each day as it comes.

 

I had a thought this morning - I think that perhaps being only 'accountable' to me may not be the best thing. As we can't afford a counsellor, I was considering that perhaps I should talk to Ben's Mum about it. She's an amazing woman (she has five boys!!) and treats me as a part of the family. She is very reasonable and has gone through a lot (two divorces). I think if Ben felt that he had someone else to talk to about it (his Mum) then she could support him through it too. They are very close, but she has no idea at all that we have had such problems, as I always put on a brave face no matter how I am feeling.

 

Can anyone give me advice on this? I know it would betray his confidence to go behind his back and tell his mother, but I truly feel that if Ben is to - at the very least -control this for the rest of his life, even if I'm not in it, he needs someone who loves him but that he can be accountable to also to support him. I also can't carry this burden alone.

 

Thanks everyone

:) Amber

My eye is that you are asking yourself if you want to spend the rest of your life with someone that has this disease?  To me that seems like you are already thinking about maybe leaving this relationship.

 

I have told my friends before that being in a relationship shouldnt be this hard.  Yes everyone is going to have ups and downs, but if a major part of your relationship is down and you feeling depressed etc.  Maybe this is not the correct relationship for you.

 

I used to date someone that I thought was the love of my life and when we broke up I thought I would never find anyone ever again.  I then met my current S/O and I realized what a terrible relationship I had with that man.  I didnt even realize that I was completely depressed about everything.  Once we broke, friends and family saw a huge change in my personality.  I know hindsight is 20/20, but I now know that I am not going to settle for anyone.  If I am not happy in the relationship, something needs to change.

 

I will not spend the rest of my life being sad.  Life is way way too short.  Good Luck.

 
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December 18, 2006, 10:35 am PST

Amber...

I do remember you - welcome back.  I wish, for your sake, that you were back with all good news - but I am glad you returned here.  Apologies, but I don't have time to fully respond to your note right now.  Hubby just got home from work and so we are on our way out to try to complete our Christmas shopping.  I just wanted to say one quick thing - please don't talk to his mom about this problem 'behind his back'.  If you believe his mom could help as far as making him accountable, I believe you should discuss that first with him.  As others have said, I think he would feel very betrayed if you tell her without asking him about it.  From everything you have told us in the past, he seems very reasonable, and may be willing to involve his mom if he also believes it will help him overcome and control his urges to look at porn. 

 

Okay, I gotta go now.  I'll respond more fully later.  Hope you were able to stay calm when you did talk to him about his latest 'slip-up'.  I am again impressed at your ability to do so.  I wish I had known how important it is to be calm and controlled when you confront/discuss about this issue when you are hurt.  Everyone should take a note from that and not blow up and go off and basically lose their dang minds - like I did.  All my anger and acting out achieved was that my husband was scared to lose me and it took him much longer to get real and get honest.  Anyway - off to make myself presentable and face the madding crowds. 

 

Hope everyone is having an enjoyable Monday!!  :)  Roxy

 

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