Topic : How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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Created on : Monday, December 11, 2006, 09:00:32 am
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Are you in a relationship that has been negatively affected by porn? Has pornography destroyed, or about to destroy your marriage? Is there hope for a relationship when one partner is addicted to porn? Share your advice and support here with others.

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April 12, 2008, 12:26 pm PDT

How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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Right now I really have trouble believing my husband on anything.  If he is telling the truth, he started looking at porn when I was pregnant a little over five years ago.  He claims that the secret email account, which I was able to find my way into and ultimately destroy, started about a year ago.  He says that things really started to get out of hand within the last six months.  When I did my research, I found postings on various sites as far back as September 2006. 

 

You ask about our intimate life.  All I can say that I noticed was maybe two or three months ago.  I was undergoing some medical tests to rule out any potential health issues, which turned out, thank G-d, to be completely normal.  When our son hit three years old, we decided that we would love another child but didn't want the stress of "trying" as we did with the first baby so although we didn't track every cycle, we didn't use protection either.  That night I was thinking about the potential for problems should the medical tests come back negatively.  I asked him to use protection.  He reacted with  a level of anger and disgust at the mere suggestion that I've never seen from him before.  Needless to say, I told him he was acting ridiculous and wouldn't have relations with him that night.  At some point we discussed the issue.  He made claims that the protection didn't offer the same experience for him.  It hadn't been a problem for all the years before we tried to get pregnant.  I told him that he was being unreasonable.  He agreed and that was that.

 

I think you're right in gathering as much information as I can before going to the psychologist.  I've been doing just that.  Where I'm having trouble is in how this all happened.  There's no question that my husband has been through a lot.  When we started dating ten years ago, he was a successful businessman.  Five months after we got married, he was diagnosed with leukemia, the aggressive chemotherapy leaving him with chronic health problems and permanent disabilities.  The subsequent demise of his career that took him from rubbing elbows with people like Bill Gates and Donald Trump deteriorated to him selling appliances in a local retail establishment.  No matter how much I tell him how proud I am of him for everything, including fighting the illness, working as hard as he is at his current job just for the benefit of his family, etc, it's not enough for him.  It's been a long road but after everything that's happened, we finally have the child the doctors said would never be born.  Our finances are finally under control as my career has advanced combined with a fair life insurance settlement that's put us in the house we always wanted.  I thought everything had turned around.  We finally made it.  Like I said when I started this thread, it's almost surreal.

 

Have I been perfect?  I would never say that I have been but there is nothing I ever could have possibly done that would have given my husband justification to do what he did.  Although there were moments when I thought Dr. Phil was sensationalizing subjects like this, I am now so thankful that his enterprise exists.  I really wouldn't know where to turn for support otherwise. 

Well, I think that nothing any wife ever does would justify something like this. But I think that there can be a light at the end of the tunnel for you. If he is willing to admit to having a problem and go to psychologist appointments with you, then he isn't the type to totally blow this off and shut you out. Which is a very good thing. You can have hope there.

 

I'm no expert, but judging by what you've said I think his addiction spurred from fear. There was tension and worry about your tests, whether or not they would come back okay. There was fear when he was diagnosed with his disease, and the over reaction to asking him to use protection may also have been a product of the same fears. However unreasonable his reaction was.

 

Any fears he may have had are no excuse though, but it's my speculation as to what's at the bottom of this. It's not anything about you, but the situations around you and your husband that are beyond your control, like him being diagnosed with leukemia.

 

I hope you can gain strength and courage in knowing that he is willing to work out of this by going to appointments. I wish you the best of luck.

 

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April 13, 2008, 1:45 am PDT

How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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Never mind.

 

I have been away from this site a lot for a reason and you did help me remember why that is. So I thank you for that. I do not see nor receive real support happening here, anymore... again. If the forum helps others, so be it. It certainly does not help me.

 

I have to be true & honest with myself & my motives behind why I would want to continue to visit this forum. And arguing with people about how this stuff is real (SA) and how this is a harmful thing (porn) and not just simply a diversion, takes far more energy than I should allow it to. I thought the point behind the forum was an obvious one. I suppose I was wrong. Or it has changed & the the site just hasn't realized & adjusted the forum explanation, yet.

 

And, when people don't want to hear the truth about things, there's nothing a person can do but accept that. Convincing others that their pain is real & that they're right in their belief that it is wrong to seek out porn (especially while in a relationship) is not my battle. Seems like an obvious thing to me especially when one considers the point of this forum stated above. But nonetheless...

 

This forum was made for those who needed support dealing with such a thing. I have no room in my heart or life for people who will cause me or ask me to question what I now know -- there is nothing good about porn, period. It's just not healthy to engage in this argument when I already know the truth.

 

So, thank you. I have an awesome support system, now. And an awesome group I belong to who gets the truth about porn. None of them, addicts & SOs, need to be convinced. They're just working their recoveries. It's not a "new thing" to them. Just the truth. And why should I feel the need to "rescue the world" or even just to enlighten those who truly are ignorant ,here, when I have enough on my plate right now. Certainly visiting this site & speaking the truth about how porn does & will destroy marriages, lives & souls can be done. But not by me anymore. Seems silly to have to do that here, anyway. But hey... so be it. If the site chooses to let the forum go a different direction, so be it. Just ain't my cup o' tea, anymore.

 

So...

 

My marriage is well, now. We have tons of work to do still. But therapy & recovery is working for us both & we are doing, now, not just talking.

 

Best of luck to you all!

 

Sincerely.

 

No one expected you to have to debate this with someone who thinks their situation took a turn for the better....so dont put that upon yourself. I know you meant every word of labelling her as pro porn, and I understand why you have to in order to sustain recovery.

 

There will always be a need for you to explain why its use is detrimental in a relationship. You have lived this for a long time and may for some time to come. I cant offer that, and have probably done all I can.

 

Best of luck to you too

 

Seriously

 

 
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April 13, 2008, 4:46 am PDT

it never changes

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No one expected you to have to debate this with someone who thinks their situation took a turn for the better....so dont put that upon yourself. I know you meant every word of labelling her as pro porn, and I understand why you have to in order to sustain recovery.

 

There will always be a need for you to explain why its use is detrimental in a relationship. You have lived this for a long time and may for some time to come. I cant offer that, and have probably done all I can.

 

Best of luck to you too

 

Seriously

 

I to have not been back for some time. The last time I said I was going to give myself a birthay present and ask him to leave. Well that day came and gone. But not because I didn't want that to happen, I still do. Time frames and finances has stopped that. However it is coming. What I have learned is that he will NEVER change. It is a life long issue with him and no matter what or whom it will continue. I have withdrawn myself emotionally from him and he has become no more than a rent paying roommate. I still get the sick feeling in my belly everytime he goes on line but I pull myself away from him. I know he wants me to see what he is doing  at that time so he can convince me he is not looking at porn. But it is really to late. I KNOW that when I am gone he still looks. So no trust..no love..no use. He has become the death of my soul. I have more compassion for a stranger than I ever will of him again. So all I can say is all of you hang in there, you will come to terms what is best for you. When the time is right you will no longer have to ask anyone for help you will know it is time! Good Speed.
 
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April 14, 2008, 6:58 am PDT

Thanks Luv

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glad the kids are doing good and you are looking at houses too.   I hope you find what you are looking for.....just don't settle!!

 

I noticed too that the boards are not what they used to be at all.   It seems the "other board" about this is primarily a couple of people promoting the whole porn thing.   Sad, but true.   I don't want to get started on being back on here too much....by saying too much, I mean where it hinders other aspects of what I am doing or what I need to do for myself.

 

About the breast cancer, don't panic!  Just be certain you check yourself all the time and get your mammo's yearly.   Also exercise daily and eat lots of fruits & veggies...and take your vitamins.   Those kids need their mother! 

 

Best of everything, Luv

its been such a long jerney since i first came here! so far so good!
I'm glad  u are back ! you have so much good knowledge that you can give out to others here!
as for jeff, that was some time last year! so its been a while ! I too am curious about how things are now! he changed so much after being here, I remember the nights and days of me and him argueing about every thinG and now he is on the mend! I am so proud of him and happy for him!
like u said its sad that this is a every day thing for so many men out there and yet only a few ever wake up!

have a great day !
Joline
 
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April 14, 2008, 7:02 am PDT

He has infact admitted to it we even went for counsiling witch I stopped ahortly after

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What does he say and do? Does he believe be is a porn addict? I mean, has he admitted he has a problem?
as the thearapist said that all our problems was my fault! even hubby did not agree with him so we started resulting to working it out our selves, he slips from time to time, but in general he is much better! its allot of hard work ect but i think  we are doing much better!
 
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April 14, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

Hey Joline

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as the thearapist said that all our problems was my fault! even hubby did not agree with him so we started resulting to working it out our selves, he slips from time to time, but in general he is much better! its allot of hard work ect but i think  we are doing much better!

I don't know if you remember me, but I used to post on here early last year until the summer. I remember some of the things you've said in past posts, and want you to know that I do understand now what you meant. I've been working on creating a new forum that women (and men too) can feel safe and comfortable posting on. My forum has to do with couples losing and then eventually finding the intimacy in their marriages. You can visit the site here:  http://lostorfoundforums.com/discussionforums/

 

If you feel this site can help others with their intimacy issues, please tell them about it. Signing up for a membership is easy and only takes a few minutes! It's good to see you back on here. And Turk is right...it's cool to finally see what you look like! Have an awesome week Joline and hope to see you on LOFF!!!

 

Camangel

 

 

 

 
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April 14, 2008, 3:00 pm PDT

How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

Quote From: joline

as the thearapist said that all our problems was my fault! even hubby did not agree with him so we started resulting to working it out our selves, he slips from time to time, but in general he is much better! its allot of hard work ect but i think  we are doing much better!

That's good that you are doing better, and I would have done the same thing you did if the therapist had said that to me. That doesn't sound like a very good therapist at all.

 

It is good to hear that your relationship is improving though. That's always a great sign.

 

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April 15, 2008, 3:27 am PDT

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I to have not been back for some time. The last time I said I was going to give myself a birthay present and ask him to leave. Well that day came and gone. But not because I didn't want that to happen, I still do. Time frames and finances has stopped that. However it is coming. What I have learned is that he will NEVER change. It is a life long issue with him and no matter what or whom it will continue. I have withdrawn myself emotionally from him and he has become no more than a rent paying roommate. I still get the sick feeling in my belly everytime he goes on line but I pull myself away from him. I know he wants me to see what he is doing  at that time so he can convince me he is not looking at porn. But it is really to late. I KNOW that when I am gone he still looks. So no trust..no love..no use. He has become the death of my soul. I have more compassion for a stranger than I ever will of him again. So all I can say is all of you hang in there, you will come to terms what is best for you. When the time is right you will no longer have to ask anyone for help you will know it is time! Good Speed.
    
Hi, I'm speechless, when the majority of your words, are my own. Just in case you check back here....have you thought that you should make the most of each others company while you can?. The crunch is the crunch.......and its easy to not feel your emotions when you think about things, or are feeling hurt. If that does happen, maybe if we feel we made the most of it, because the reality is you will miss him.......when your looking back and not taking it personally, you will be more pleased than if we just closed down altogether.


 
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April 15, 2008, 7:38 am PDT

Thank you

Quote From: jljs53

 Hi our4sons

 

I am sure Luv will answer for herself but I hate to see wrong impressions out there. I took that as definite sarcasm and tongue in cheek. I have never seen her post anything pro-porn on this board or the other one. She was on the otherboard, when there was only one board, about 2 years ago when I first found it.

She does not believe porn belongs. Hopefully she will see this and answer more fully herself. Just did not want you thinking about something that was taken the wrong way.

take care

jljs

 

 

I was speaking as in sarcasm "tongue in cheek".    I was previously on the boards pretty much daily way back when, even before this board.....that was created for literally the "safety" for those who needed to express how porn has effected their relationship.   I at first would not come to this board, created for this, because the other board "used" to be also a safe place to express this.  However, that changed drastically when there were many many more supporters of porn that would try to convince those that they were either lacking self confidence or had some sexual issues that prevented them from "enjoying" porn (ha ha, no such thing in the reality of a relationship).....(seriously).  

 

That board became the debate center for what is good/bad about porn....and facts not feelings were more important than the people effected negatively by porn...or the marriages destroyed by this junk.   People, feeelings, emotions, love.....all of it began to mean very little and it became who could hurt people more with the argument.

 

Thanks so much for making this clearer.  

 

Luv~

 
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April 15, 2008, 11:46 am PDT

Hey Cam, Sure i remember you!

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I don't know if you remember me, but I used to post on here early last year until the summer. I remember some of the things you've said in past posts, and want you to know that I do understand now what you meant. I've been working on creating a new forum that women (and men too) can feel safe and comfortable posting on. My forum has to do with couples losing and then eventually finding the intimacy in their marriages. You can visit the site here:  http://lostorfoundforums.com/discussionforums/

 

If you feel this site can help others with their intimacy issues, please tell them about it. Signing up for a membership is easy and only takes a few minutes! It's good to see you back on here. And Turk is right...it's cool to finally see what you look like! Have an awesome week Joline and hope to see you on LOFF!!!

 

Camangel

 

 

 

I also remember all the fights we had about the topic ect! but any way thanks I'll  look into it some time! how have u been?
 

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