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Created on : Monday, December 11, 2006, 09:00:32 am
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Are you in a relationship that has been negatively affected by porn? Has pornography destroyed, or about to destroy your marriage? Is there hope for a relationship when one partner is addicted to porn? Share your advice and support here with others.

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December 31, 2008, 3:33 am PST

If you already left him once...

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I found out today my husband is still looking at porn on the internet. I left him this summer because of this. He quit for awhile but evidentally he is addicted because as much as he proclaims his love for me he can not stop. We have a good sex life ,so it is not from lack of sex.

This is his 3rd marriage and my 2nd. I am ready to walk out for good. Should I?

 

For this reason, and now you are contemplating leaving again, I would say , if you do leave, make sure you truly understand that is forever. He is not going to change so you need to either accept and love him for who he is, a man addicted to porn, of leave him and let him live his life as he chooses without your judgements and suffering. 

 

I left my husband after 7 years becasue he was addicted to porn. I am now gone a year and he probably still looks at porn. If your sex life is good and you care about each other, what is it exactly that bothers you most about him looking at porn? Do you feel you are not satisfying him? Then ask him. Do you feel jealous that there are other women that make him horney? That is understandable, so you need to tell him you don't like the competition feeling it makes you feel when he is admiring other women.  Do you feel disgust? Then that is probably something that you need to work on.  I went through all of this and I came up with something much more simpler.

 

If after you have talked to him about how you feel and he makes no move to change anything in his behaviours , then you are probably dealing with a person that is not capable of compromising and being compassionate for other people. Its about him and his needs first. Then he needs to find someone that also puts their needs first. That is the only person he can respect. 

 

And to be perfectly honest, I would question why you didn't think more rationally when you got married the second time?????!  And he got married 3X's!!!! Phew. I think we need to remember that we can date people.............we don't have to marry them or even make committments to them until we are ready and totally in agreement about what that is for both parties involved.

 
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December 31, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

Thank you

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For this reason, and now you are contemplating leaving again, I would say , if you do leave, make sure you truly understand that is forever. He is not going to change so you need to either accept and love him for who he is, a man addicted to porn, of leave him and let him live his life as he chooses without your judgements and suffering. 

 

I left my husband after 7 years becasue he was addicted to porn. I am now gone a year and he probably still looks at porn. If your sex life is good and you care about each other, what is it exactly that bothers you most about him looking at porn? Do you feel you are not satisfying him? Then ask him. Do you feel jealous that there are other women that make him horney? That is understandable, so you need to tell him you don't like the competition feeling it makes you feel when he is admiring other women.  Do you feel disgust? Then that is probably something that you need to work on.  I went through all of this and I came up with something much more simpler.

 

If after you have talked to him about how you feel and he makes no move to change anything in his behaviours , then you are probably dealing with a person that is not capable of compromising and being compassionate for other people. Its about him and his needs first. Then he needs to find someone that also puts their needs first. That is the only person he can respect. 

 

And to be perfectly honest, I would question why you didn't think more rationally when you got married the second time?????!  And he got married 3X's!!!! Phew. I think we need to remember that we can date people.............we don't have to marry them or even make committments to them until we are ready and totally in agreement about what that is for both parties involved.

I am finding out more and more about my husband. One is that he's very deceptive. We had many long talks during our dating years I believed and trusted him but he lied. I waited many years to remarry,and I thought he was very different than he's turned out to be.. He's a Dr.Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde. I was totally duped, but I will wait and see how things progress.You hit it right on when you said he's not capable of change,compromise,or compassion. As far as his marriages go I believed him,but definetly question anything he says now. But anyway I will give my marriage a while longer before making a decision to end it.

Thank you for your reply. Have a great New Year.

 
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January 1, 2009, 4:36 am PST

Happy New Year.

I hope your celebration was a success! I have found and would want the same respect, that we need to accept people for who they are, as we want them to accept us for who we are, without having to change anything, unless that is something that is dangerous to ones health or wealth being. But choices, are ours and we are better with those that have similar views on important issues because the choice will only be what is reflective and indiviual to all of us. When we feel dissatisfied with someones choices, we can then make a choice, not to contiue to feel dissatisfied or if we can't do that, then we will suffer.

 

Staying in a relationship that is not good or unsatisfactory is not something we must do because we need to be compassionate. But compassion comes from a place of wisdom, knowing when a situation is good or bad. Compassion does mean staying in a bad situation. Leaving something behind can feel like a loss or an abandonment, when its really OUR strong attachement to it and there is something that we are trying to prove.  Whenever I find something about someone that disturbs me, I almost immediately wonder why do I feel so pulled by this person. Its usually based on some fear or ignorance or ego. 

 

It is not our calling to make life work for others, but to make our life work so that we can benefit others. Its their job to do the same. And what other way would ther ebe?? When we stay out of relationships with people, we lose the gift of what that person is going to be able to teach us about ourselves, and how we interact with others. Do you think that something as silly as porn can destroy a loving relationship? It can't just like any other temptation, unless, the choice is made to use that to destroy what would have been destroyed anyway. I don't believe there is one thing that makes two people not good for each other, but sometimes, we just can't expect everyone to feel the way we do, actually, hardly anyone ever feels the way we do on any given day or moment, that is the ego trying to start trouble.....

 

So, the most important thing to remember when you are wondering if you should stay or go.....ask yourself is there more pain or joy? If it is balanced, it is a normal rlsp. If it is more pain, it is wrong...if it is all good...then you are one lucky dawg!  Possibly maybe that could be when you find your soulmate. :)

 

Kim

 
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January 1, 2009, 4:37 am PST

VAbunny..this was for you....:) eom

 
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January 12, 2009, 6:43 pm PST

please help ! i cant do this anymore !

 I have been with my husband for 10 yrs now, married for only 4. I new not long after meeting him that he enjoyed watching Porn, however he had been divorced for 4 yrs and hadn't been in a serious relationship since. I thought for sure that after being together the Porn would just go away...Boy was I wrong ! when I 1st found the box of porn hidden in the back of the shad he promised to stop and that he wouldn't continue to watch it, I believed him. around this time DVD players where the new technology , i wanted one, to my surprise he bought me one ( cant remember if it was Christmas, birthday or no real reason at all) however it didn't take me long to realize he didn't buy the DVD player for me, he bought it for himself and the fact he could now get porn on DVD a much better picture, i started to find dvd hidden in magazines ect.. i approached him again and made him aware that this bothered me, he once again promised to stop, and once again i feel for it.. i tried not to think about, however I left for a vacation for a week w some girlfriends of mine and when i came home i couldn't help but search, i new deep down i would find something and of course i did, this time hidden in the back spar tire compartment of his car, but the empty cases i found in the back of our closet.. this time i lost it , i couldn't even work that day it was all i could think about, i said i was leaving and again he convinced me that he loved me and he couldn't help it, that he just had an addition to it, and it helped to satisfy him, but yet in the same breath i satisfied him ????? again i stayed around hoping this time he would really try , i had no problems w his playboy and hustler mags, only with the movies. after we moved into a new place, i again caught him watching porn, i was actually laying in bed next to him and he thought i was asleep so he changed the channel.. i went on and on with him about how bad it makes me feel about myself, that he was really hurting me, he again NWT on to convince me how much he loves me and its nothing. i tried to ignore it and act as if it didn't bother me and tried to block it out of my mind. we later moved into a new place and got our 1st pc, it didn't take long for him to find the online porn sites, i new what he was doing and again said something to him and again it was the same thing. I went on to marry him and have been married for 4 yrs now, we purchased our home after getting married and once again i started finding the dvds hidden all over my house, in the garage, under the dresser, in mags. and the Internet, i found that he was going to porn sights everyday on the Internet, he thought he was being smart by deleting all history but it didn't take me long to find the system that recovers all deleted files. i arrived home from work one day and the pc was just starting to shut dwn and he was in the bathtub, yes middle of the day taking a bath, i advised him i new what he was doing and he tried to deny it so i pulled all the deleted files up and sh wed them to him, this time he was more then willing to say how sorry he was and tht he wouldn't do it again.. yea right.. i noticed it stooped for a min, but found my husband never wants to go anywhere w me and the kids if he can b home alone. one Saturday morning my son had a football game and we have to arrive 1 hr early, my husband ( this is his stepson, we have no kids together) stated that he would meet me up there, i however forgot the battery for my camera and had to run home and grab it after i dropped my son off, i walk in the door to big busted tits fucking on my TV screen, once again my husband now in the shower, i pulled the movie out of the dvd player through it in the shower and advised him he forgot to turn it off when he run for the shower. he again keep saying how sorry he was , he even went as far as throwing the dvd away along w others he had hidden that i hadn't came across yet. and once again i caved and stayed along for the ride, after finding him on the pc again on porn sights and getting pop-ups to meet locals in the area, I had it... we set down and i talked to him again, i finally caved i told him i didn't care if he had porn dvds in the house i just asked that he didn't hid them all over, to keep them in his bottom draw, but not all over.. and that he stay off the Internet porn, he agreed and asked me to set up parental controls on the pc so tht he couldn't access porn if he tired, i set up the block, but only to find porn still hidden in his tool box, and in a playstation box stored in our shed and who knws where else, also he purchased a blackberry cell phone , and guess what ? yep u guessed it .. he has been downloading porn from the Internet everyday since he got the cell phne.. i just cant do this anymore, i am so scared to walk away, i have invested so much time, but when i try to talk to him about  porn now, his response is , he is who he is and he is not going to change... this tells me he doesn't really care about me, i think we have become a comfort zone for ea. other.. the sex is horrible i have to admit, i wont no part of sex with him, the porn has destroyed the sexual attraction i had for him, as soon as he touches me i start thinking wonder if he already jerked off today, or how many porn downloads did he watch on his cell to make him horney, and not to mention i feel that i cant live up to a porn star, he likes very hard core porn, and i cant get into it. It makes me sick to my stomach just to think about it.... please give advice... i really need support !!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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January 17, 2009, 5:18 pm PST

He'll never understand!

I met my husband almost three years ago and we have been married for three months now. We have a beautiful 6 months old who is the joy of our lives. Although my husband wouldn't admit to it he's addicted to fetish porn. A fetish that we both share and that’s what made our meeting even more special. In the beginning he was always so into sharing our fetish in the bedroom but this has weaned drastically. He tells me I am always too available for sex that normal couples don’t have as much sex as we do. Yet he’s constantly looking at porn. We had a huge problem two years ago when he was spending hundreds of dollars in a single day on porn. I would find it and he would lie through his teeth and when I showed him the proof he would get angry at me and tell me I had no right to snoop through his things. I’m more than willing to give him anything his heart desires in the bedroom its just that most of the time he’d rather just get it over with. He knows how badly it hurts me and at the very least he stopped buying it as far as I know. The other morning he was nice enough to get up with our son so I could get some extra sleep. I could hear the baby fussing a little and when I got up he was on the computer quickly closing windows and deleting history. I went back into the room and got up shortly after to let him go back to sleep. First thing I did was check the computer and sure enough he was viewing porn while my son was right there and needing his attention. I asked him and he swears he was only looking and asked me not to be mad over it. Mad doesn’t begin to explain how I feel. I love him and though we had something so special but that hit me hard. I feel like I’m falling out of love with him over this. I try to tell myself that it silly for me to make such a big deal out of this. Besides this he is a wonderful man, husband and father. I’m lost and not sure what the next step should be. I can’t trust him when it comes to this issue we have. Any advice would be welcoming!
 
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January 19, 2009, 2:46 pm PST

trying

Quote From: kimikomine

unless you give it to them.

If what you found makes you sick, and makes you feel less sexy or takes away your esteem...then you are probably a little deficient in self esteem. No one can take away your sexuality......unless you let them.

Forget about what he is looking at.....continue to pay attention to yourself and keep improving on your looks and your body......when you know you are hot, no one can take it away.....Good luck.
first of all i have to say thankyou for the repies.....yes i agree my self estem gets the better of me once in a while......have been ignoring the fact of the porn crap lately........i do take good care of myself, but sometimes i am just so tired of trying to look my best......but i have to admit, the more i ignore the porn, the better life becomes....there are much worse things a woman can discover........and if my sex life is great..guess for the time being i will leave the issue.
 

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January 19, 2009, 10:50 pm PST

It doesn't matter how good I look.....

Yeah, my fiance looks at porn...has for a long time.  So I got to a place where I was working out, I went from a minor 150 lbs to a better and toner 128 lbs, I was going to the tanning bed, my hair is still really long, and it can be curly or straight, and it's blonde, I was looking the best i'd ever looked in my life and i'm 30.  It didn't matter.  And it will never matter how good I look or what I do or even if I was Playboy quality in the looks department or porn queen quality in the bedroom - HE WILL STILL LOOK AT PORN.  Can anyone tell me why?  He has said it himself, no matter what I look like or what I do in bed he will still look at the others.  So what do you think this did to my motivation to look good?  To improve myself inside and out?  It KILLED my motivation.  So I've gained back 10 pounds and I quit working out.  I no longer have plans to grow my hair down past my butt.  And i've decided I really like fast food.  I mean, what does it matter?  SO now can anyone tell me with a straight face that if I keep improving on the way I look, and how nice I can be, or how sexy and good in bed I can be, that maybe he wouldn't look at and watch porn?  HA !!!  B.S!!  Nothing you ever do will stop it, ladies.  You can pray for him.  God is all powerful. But God won't make him do anything he doesn't want to do.  He'd have to want to change.  And how many men do we know that actually WANT to QUIT?  I'm just as confused as any of you.  I love my man so much.  But like a flower, my soul, my spirit is wilting.  My heart is aching.  He has SO MANY GOOD QUALITIES that make me want him in my life forever.  What is it about this issue , pornography. that makes all these great qualities fade into the background?  Is it the way our self esteem and self worth fades into the background??  Everything we ever held dear about love and sex and marriage and intimacy has been p*ssed on by pornography.  Anything that was ever real about true intimacy has been mocked and replaced with a wink and a nod in the direction of the inexcusable perverted and dangerous addictions that men (and even women) allow themselves to develop and entertain.   It still never ceases to amaze me how anyone can say, "I don't see anything wrong with it."  America has unfortunately allowed this type of "entertainment" to run rampant and spread its disease for far too long.  
 
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January 20, 2009, 3:04 am PST

am i that stupid

I have never posted on a board before, but i just don't know what to do. I'm in my 2nd marriage. My 1st ended b/c my spouse chalked up $100,000 in credit card debit using my name and ss#,needless to say trust is an issue for me. I met my soulmate we had a 2 year long distance relationship(he was on a ship) and I knew he would use porn at times. I figured he wouldn't need to once we were together, but wrong. We have been married almost 4yrs. He has gone from using porn regularly to "every 3 months" he knows it hurts me, I have a bigger sex drive than him and we have sex 1xmonth. Because I work nights and sometimes the urge is uncontrollable he masterbates to porn. The last 8 months I thought things were great I was trusting him more and haven't checked his computer history.I accepted the fact he doesn't like sex much, that he is unable to ejaculate in me and the only way he does is with oral sex . That was hard to accept that it was his issue and not anything to do with me and my body. Then he asked me to take the laptop to the apple store to get fixed and in front of 200 people, including my 13 year old daughter who 30 minutes prior told me she has suicidal thoughts , 6 pages of graphic porn pop up for everyone to see! If I wasn't so unprepared, hurt, shocked , humilated, and stunned it might have reminded me of a comedy scene in a movie. I know he slipped , he has made an effort but I'm having a hard time knowing what to do. I want him to stop I dont want to be the wife that is part detective and can't move on, but it is so hard to leave someone who is perfect in almost everyway. I don't think he is an addict -he doesn't pay for sites, etc.. He just was really horny that night and I wasn't there. To me it cheating me out of intimacy and the sexual needs I crave and get rejected . He cant promise that he won't do it again,but he doesn't do it everyday. I think it is more of a habit than an addiction. I would be ok if on the nights I wasn't home and he didn't have the impulse control that he used photos of me-just not strange women. How can someone be so selfish to keep hurting someone they love. Oh, and my 1st husband didn't use the money on porn. Do I convince myself that it is no big deal and accept the person I love unconditionally ?Or tell him he has to leave on if he keeps up with this behavior because it is killing my self esteem and our relationship?
 
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January 21, 2009, 12:38 pm PST

How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

I am having trouble dealing with the fact that my boy friend looks at porn. I now this is something that he did long before I started seeing him. But somehow it makes me feel bad to know I am not good enough for him and he has to look at other women. Is it my own insecurities that are the problem or should I just get over the whole thing and move on.  I am so confused by this and wish it would be easy to figure out. Anyone with advice or experience that could help me would be appreciated. Thanks :)

 
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