Topic : How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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July 1, 2008, 3:05 pm PDT

How Porn Has Hurt Our Relationship

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I have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years.  From the third month in, I found TONS of porn on his computer.  Of course, he lied about it.  I didn't believe him, but I kind of pretended it didn't happen.  He wouldn't have sex with me, which I thought was odd, our relationship still being new and all. 

Over the years I have continually found porn, I have also found e-mails to another woman telling her how crappy our relationship was (I thought everything was fine).  I also found attempts on myspace to hook up with other woman.  Again, I confronted him, and again, he apologized up, down, sideways. 

Now it's been almost six years and I recently installed a keylogger on our computer.  Not only was he having cybersex with women before I would come home from work, but he did he immediately when I went to work.

Now, here I am.... going to a psychologist trying to figure this all out.  We are going together to try to fix this.  His problem is lying, TREMENDOUSLY.  He blamed me for his porn and cybersex use.  Then he took it back.  It's like no matter what he says, it's always a lie. 

How do I learn to let go of all of his good qualities?  I feel like I'm clinging to those and letting them outweigh his inability to be faithful.  (Which has always been so important).  I feel so confused, and don't know what to do.

I'm going to be completely and totally honest with you, since your boyfriend doesn't seem to be giving you that benefit, but you really need to just dump his ass. Okay...that was pretty blunt, sorry for that if it offended you.  

 

This man does not respect you. He's taking advantage of your forgiveness. He keeps lying to you because he figures he's just always going to get away with it if he apologizes a whole bunch as is nice to you for a little bit, while he's getting his sexual fix from someone else behind your back. That is not fair to you. That is not fair to your relationship. It's just downright slimey I think. Plus, he's blaming you for everything during your therapy appointments? Now he's wasting money because he obviously doesn't truely care about fixing the problem. Being honest again, I would bet $20 that even while you are going to a psychologist, he's probably still looking at porn behind your back.

 

You sound like you are a forgiving, trusting and loyal person, and you deserve someone who is going to be the same way to you. Not someone who is going to throw a bunch of false "I'm sorry's" at you, while his fingers are crossed behind his back.

 

As far as those "good qualities," how do you know those are genuine? He's lied to you so much, I wouldn't believe that those qualities aren't cover-ups to make you stick around even after he's stomped all over you in this relationship. Since he's been so dishonest, I wouldn't take his "good qualities" to be sincere. Especially since he's talking to someone about how "crappy" he thinks things are.

 

Don't let him do that to you anymore. Don't let him take advantage of your kindness and loyalty. Stand up and say "I am WOMAN! HEAR ME ROAR!!!" ...well, you don't have to say that, but you get the idea of what I'm saying. As long as you keep trying to stick with this guy, he's going to stay in the mindset that he can be unfaithfull and get away with it. Take that power away from him.

 
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July 1, 2008, 6:09 pm PDT

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I have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years.  From the third month in, I found TONS of porn on his computer.  Of course, he lied about it.  I didn't believe him, but I kind of pretended it didn't happen.  He wouldn't have sex with me, which I thought was odd, our relationship still being new and all. 

Over the years I have continually found porn, I have also found e-mails to another woman telling her how crappy our relationship was (I thought everything was fine).  I also found attempts on myspace to hook up with other woman.  Again, I confronted him, and again, he apologized up, down, sideways. 

Now it's been almost six years and I recently installed a keylogger on our computer.  Not only was he having cybersex with women before I would come home from work, but he did he immediately when I went to work.

Now, here I am.... going to a psychologist trying to figure this all out.  We are going together to try to fix this.  His problem is lying, TREMENDOUSLY.  He blamed me for his porn and cybersex use.  Then he took it back.  It's like no matter what he says, it's always a lie. 

How do I learn to let go of all of his good qualities?  I feel like I'm clinging to those and letting them outweigh his inability to be faithful.  (Which has always been so important).  I feel so confused, and don't know what to do.
I guess I am just trying to figure out what those "good qualities" are...?  What could possibly be so great  that counteracts the way he's treated you?
 
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July 1, 2008, 6:48 pm PDT

I know you are scared.

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I have been with my boyfriend for almost 6 years.  From the third month in, I found TONS of porn on his computer.  Of course, he lied about it.  I didn't believe him, but I kind of pretended it didn't happen.  He wouldn't have sex with me, which I thought was odd, our relationship still being new and all. 

Over the years I have continually found porn, I have also found e-mails to another woman telling her how crappy our relationship was (I thought everything was fine).  I also found attempts on myspace to hook up with other woman.  Again, I confronted him, and again, he apologized up, down, sideways. 

Now it's been almost six years and I recently installed a keylogger on our computer.  Not only was he having cybersex with women before I would come home from work, but he did he immediately when I went to work.

Now, here I am.... going to a psychologist trying to figure this all out.  We are going together to try to fix this.  His problem is lying, TREMENDOUSLY.  He blamed me for his porn and cybersex use.  Then he took it back.  It's like no matter what he says, it's always a lie. 

How do I learn to let go of all of his good qualities?  I feel like I'm clinging to those and letting them outweigh his inability to be faithful.  (Which has always been so important).  I feel so confused, and don't know what to do.

It doesn't matter how long we spend with someone, we all have the capacity to say and do things that hurt those we care about, a lot.Our most difficult times, like you are going through now, is something subconsciously you set up. Its a hard concept to digest. When we are miserable, whether it is caused by someone elses' actions or ours, we get to see a part of ourselves that brought us to this exact place. You want to see the good in him, in your relationship, when pain has been inflicted. If he knows he hurt you, he should apologize and if he loves you he would show it in ways that make you see he is sorry and he had a lapse of immaturity, or selfishness or deeper issues that keep him from being able to lie to you.

 

Back to porn. I found loads of porn and my ex didn't hide it; which makes it even more abusive. When he would lie about it because he saw it was a sore spot with me, it drew the wedge that broke the camels back. Its a no go either way.

 

To your question "how do I learn how to let go of his good qualities?" I would say don't try because you are trying to convice yourself that what you see and feel is not real or right. If you question his abilty to be faithful then you need to see why you feel this. He has given you good reason by the emailing the other woman, right? He c ontinues to overlook your concerns. Your confusion will only pass after you have made a decision.

 

Now that I am alone, (I have already messed up a good relationship because my self esteem is still very fractured) and as of tonite I blew off a wonderful man (that doesn't look at porn btw). You, me also, need to see why we do what we do, how we react, and how we sabotage our chances of freedom and happiness. You stay with him because you don't love yourself.

 

You need to work on your heart and strive for a better way of life and admit when you are defeated. You are defeated.

 

When you can see nothing you will do to change the situation you must either learn to love it or leave.

 

Leaving is harder.

 

I wish you luck and I hope we can continue to talk. I need someone right now myself. Take care.

 
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July 2, 2008, 2:04 pm PDT

Dolcetts..anybody heard of them?

I would like to know if anyone out there has heard of these. They are cartoon and 3-d pictures of women being hung, drowned, boiled, and even put on skewers to barbecue.  sometimes they are burned on a cross and most of them are having sex while being hung or after..I am not kidding about this. It is not real women but drawings and computer graphic depictions. I recently found out that my boyfriend is into this, goes to many web sites that show these pictures and even makes up the computer graphic ones as well. he says it is just a fantasy and has nothing to do with me but I am not sure about this as I have no one to talk to about it and I can't even find a therapist who knows anything about it either..Please someone talk to me about this as it has ruined our relationship and he thinks there is noting wrong with it..thanks
 
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July 2, 2008, 6:46 pm PDT

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I would like to know if anyone out there has heard of these. They are cartoon and 3-d pictures of women being hung, drowned, boiled, and even put on skewers to barbecue.  sometimes they are burned on a cross and most of them are having sex while being hung or after..I am not kidding about this. It is not real women but drawings and computer graphic depictions. I recently found out that my boyfriend is into this, goes to many web sites that show these pictures and even makes up the computer graphic ones as well. he says it is just a fantasy and has nothing to do with me but I am not sure about this as I have no one to talk to about it and I can't even find a therapist who knows anything about it either..Please someone talk to me about this as it has ruined our relationship and he thinks there is noting wrong with it..thanks
I am no expert so what I am going to say is just how I would react and it is my personal belief.

I think that someone who is interested in that kind of thing has a problem, a seriously dangerous mental problem. I think you should stay away from a person like that. I would. I would leave and never speak to him again. I couldn't have an intimate connection with someone who found entertainment in something like that. It would be more than a "turn off"..it would change that person in my mind so profoundly that I couldn't continue to have the feelings I once had for them.

If he thinks there is nothing wrong with it, that's his business, he's not breaking the law. However I personally see a lot wrong with it...and I would leave, and never speak to him again.
 

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July 2, 2008, 7:39 pm PDT

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I would like to know if anyone out there has heard of these. They are cartoon and 3-d pictures of women being hung, drowned, boiled, and even put on skewers to barbecue.  sometimes they are burned on a cross and most of them are having sex while being hung or after..I am not kidding about this. It is not real women but drawings and computer graphic depictions. I recently found out that my boyfriend is into this, goes to many web sites that show these pictures and even makes up the computer graphic ones as well. he says it is just a fantasy and has nothing to do with me but I am not sure about this as I have no one to talk to about it and I can't even find a therapist who knows anything about it either..Please someone talk to me about this as it has ruined our relationship and he thinks there is noting wrong with it..thanks
    
Hi, There was a girl that posted on here not that long ago called "morbidhobbyist". She had similar fantasies and was worried that there was something wrong with thinking the way that she does. You should read her posts, there are only a few of them.


 
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July 2, 2008, 7:48 pm PDT

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It doesn't matter how long we spend with someone, we all have the capacity to say and do things that hurt those we care about, a lot.Our most difficult times, like you are going through now, is something subconsciously you set up. Its a hard concept to digest. When we are miserable, whether it is caused by someone elses' actions or ours, we get to see a part of ourselves that brought us to this exact place. You want to see the good in him, in your relationship, when pain has been inflicted. If he knows he hurt you, he should apologize and if he loves you he would show it in ways that make you see he is sorry and he had a lapse of immaturity, or selfishness or deeper issues that keep him from being able to lie to you.

 

Back to porn. I found loads of porn and my ex didn't hide it; which makes it even more abusive. When he would lie about it because he saw it was a sore spot with me, it drew the wedge that broke the camels back. Its a no go either way.

 

To your question "how do I learn how to let go of his good qualities?" I would say don't try because you are trying to convice yourself that what you see and feel is not real or right. If you question his abilty to be faithful then you need to see why you feel this. He has given you good reason by the emailing the other woman, right? He c ontinues to overlook your concerns. Your confusion will only pass after you have made a decision.

 

Now that I am alone, (I have already messed up a good relationship because my self esteem is still very fractured) and as of tonite I blew off a wonderful man (that doesn't look at porn btw). You, me also, need to see why we do what we do, how we react, and how we sabotage our chances of freedom and happiness. You stay with him because you don't love yourself.

 

You need to work on your heart and strive for a better way of life and admit when you are defeated. You are defeated.

 

When you can see nothing you will do to change the situation you must either learn to love it or leave.

 

Leaving is harder.

 

I wish you luck and I hope we can continue to talk. I need someone right now myself. Take care.

Leaving may be harder, but forcing yourself to live with a destructive relationship is worse long term. Some things you must keep in mind to make your self confidence better are these:

1) NEVER blame yourself for his horrible treatment of you, or his bad habits. That is not your fault. That in itself brings down your self confidence.
2) Never let him tell you it was your fault. That's him using you as a scape goat for his own shortcomings.
3) You may be defeated in your attempts to change him, but you are not defeated as a person because of him. Don't allow him to do that to you. Don't allow anyone, man or woman, friend or boyfriend, to do that to you. They have no right to make you feel like a failure in life.
 
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July 2, 2008, 8:37 pm PDT

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Hi, There was a girl that posted on here not that long ago called "morbidhobbyist". She had similar fantasies and was worried that there was something wrong with thinking the way that she does. You should read her posts, there are only a few of them.


How can  find this person's posts? I am new to this, thanks
 
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July 3, 2008, 2:51 am PDT

Wow. Thats pretty graphic. Ouch.

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I would like to know if anyone out there has heard of these. They are cartoon and 3-d pictures of women being hung, drowned, boiled, and even put on skewers to barbecue.  sometimes they are burned on a cross and most of them are having sex while being hung or after..I am not kidding about this. It is not real women but drawings and computer graphic depictions. I recently found out that my boyfriend is into this, goes to many web sites that show these pictures and even makes up the computer graphic ones as well. he says it is just a fantasy and has nothing to do with me but I am not sure about this as I have no one to talk to about it and I can't even find a therapist who knows anything about it either..Please someone talk to me about this as it has ruined our relationship and he thinks there is noting wrong with it..thanks

Hi. My first gut feeling is a person may "happen" upon such nonsense by accident, take a peek, maybe even get a little involved, but in the course of it, realize how sick it its. I think as humans we get caught up in things then need to take a few steps back. Cartoons are not real people, itls like watching the flintstones thinking fred really sits on the the top of a head of a dinosaur! If it were real people.........I would call the police on him.....kidding but not, if you know what I mean.

 

Computers have opened up a whole can of worms and creativity is exploding in the graphics area. Yet, despite all these reasonings, I would be concerned why it is only 1- women that are being tortured and 2-are they sexual in nature or only violent? He may be experiening some hate towards people or he may be angry or he may just be immature. I don't know how old your guy is. Some people like going to scarey movies (because they like to feel they skirted death) and some people like war movies, because they like to feel powerful and in control and some people like porn, because they want to feel control over their sexuality.  The point is, whether he thinks there is nothing wrong or not, is not the issue here. You are very uncomfortable with this and him telling you its "nothing" does not show respect for your concern and discomfort. Ask him to go into detail why it is that he likes that stuff and ask him how it makes him feel when he is watching it or designing it. Most likely he wil retort (pull away) because he knows it is something that is not healthy. If he wants to share it with you, then he may be right, it may be nothing but a passing technological curiousity.

 

Anytime a person can't talk about something, its because they are lying.

 

Anytime a person can be honest, despite the outcome, good or bad, shows character and a willingness to want compromise and resolution. I hope this helps. The most important thing here is that you are concerned. Don't discount your gut and your intuition.

 
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July 3, 2008, 2:55 am PDT

Tracking.

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How can  find this person's posts? I am new to this, thanks
Try going into archives and put her name. You should be able to get all his/her posts. GL.
 

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