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Topic : 01/08 The Dr. Phil House: Teen Intervention

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Created on : Friday, January 05, 2007, 10:47:53 am
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Almost every teenager owns a cell phone and an iPod these days, but what if your daughter bought these items with money she says she made by prostituting herself to older men? Alex, 14, has been running away from home, stealing money from her grandmother and selling her body to men nearly twice her age. Her family wrote to Dr. Phil for a desperately needed intervention. Alex’s mother, Kim, and aunt, Enza, are sisters-in-law who cannot be in the same room together without getting into a fight. Will they reunite for the sake of saving Alex? Within minutes of moving into the Dr. Phil House, Alex was trolling for men on the Internet, under the watchful eyes of Dr. Phil’s cameras. Dr. Phil meets with Kim and asks some hard questions, to find out how things got so out of control with her 14-year-old. Sparks fly when Enza joins the conversation. Find out what Enza has to say about Kim’s mothering skills and join the discussion.

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January 8, 2007, 9:27 pm PST

I dont see a problem with it either

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I don't see a problem with the living situation with the grandmother. She seems to be very positive. Not everybody is rich. I can't see where she would be getting plastic surgery done. To me she looks her age and i don't believe she's done anyithng to her face. Thats probably just Enza saying that. If she has maybe it was long ago cuz i don't see it. 
the grandmother seems so quiet and doesnt like to do any screaming from what I saw. I think she is there to help more then her "Evil daughter"(Enza) is. The grandmother looks so "laid back" that when the fighting is going on between either mother/daughter or Enza/Kim. Who knows why she dont step in? Maybe she sees that the yelling doesnt get you VERY far and only hurts the people around. The only time I saw her upset was when Alex took her life savings that was the madest I saw so far. IMHO, the grandmother should stay, and teach the mother(Kim) and daughter Alex that you dont have to scream to get a point across.
 
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January 8, 2007, 9:30 pm PST

Enza Over the Top

Enza is  very toxic. I  will agree with that.  The only purpose that she serves here is that she does seem to know what's going on while the others are in denial.  The  girl seems to have the  "searching for Daddy"  syndrome which is a hazard of  divorce and single parenthood.  I divorced many years ago, and I would think that my own daughter wouldn't suffer  this, but  she seems  to have suffered from this as well--not to the  extreme degree that this  kid  has though.
 
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January 8, 2007, 9:30 pm PST

So disappointing!

   I am a 38yr old man. Today, while skipping channels at the top of the hour, I had skipped by the Dr. Phil show, and was drawn in by what was appearing to be a very toxic situation. I had watched a woman named Ezra who seemed to be completely out of touch with true reality. I felt my blood boil with anger. Ezra seems to be that person who was never told she was wrong. Maybe she was so annoying that it was easier to give in than continue a debate. It came across to me that she doesn't admit she's wrong even if the situation proves her wrong. I've been involved with people like this only in my working environment, as I would never surround myself with people such as herself in my personal life. The show ended by showing clips of the next show, and just as we guessed here, this Ezra person is talking the exact same trash that she denied doing earlier, but this time it's on hiden video. The mother is struggling to control her 14 yr old daughter, but how difficult do you think that would be to do while a close member of the family is degrading everything positive that was being done by this girls mother. I realize maybe there was very little that was positive, but with this amount of negativity, what could possibly remain positive??

 

 
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January 8, 2007, 9:39 pm PST

mom vs aunt

 I'm not surprised to see different views here on the mom and the aunt. My husband thought the mom was fine, I thought she was messed up from the first minutes.  We both hate the aunt!  I softened on the mom after seeing that she struggles with alcoholism.  I couldn't agree more with Dr Phil that mom needs to change if she wants her daughter to continue to live with her.

I saw myself as a teenager in the daughter.  My behavior wasn't the same, but that's how my mom treated me when I was a teen.  Guess that's why I didn't like the mom from the start.  I have to wonder where the daughter will go if mom can't change - foster care? When I was 14, I gritted my teeth until I could move out . My life improved immediately.  I hope this girl has at least as good a prospect.  If she could read this, my prayers will be with you honey.

 
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January 8, 2007, 9:41 pm PST

HUH????

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I don't know why people are so up in arms about Enza. She seems like the only person who sincerely cares about Alex. She may be going about it the wrong way, but that is obviously after years and years of watching Kim turn a blind eye to her daughter. Enza is obviously disgusted and has every right to express it. No one else seems to get that angry. Kim has been quoted as having NO CLUE as to how this happened. Is that the alcohol fog she's talking through. Such denial. There's no respectable adult for Alex to look up to. I have no doubt that Dr. Phil can somehow tap into this child's desperate need for attention and affection, but unless Kim straightens out her act and the grandmother stops making excuses for her, Alex will simply fall back into her destructive ways.

The grandmother making excuses for WHO?? I never heard that on the show. ALEX STOLE her life savings over $8,000. You cant tell me you would not be the slightest bit upset about that? I ROFL about your ENTIRE post.

 
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January 8, 2007, 9:43 pm PST

Agreed

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   I am a 38yr old man. Today, while skipping channels at the top of the hour, I had skipped by the Dr. Phil show, and was drawn in by what was appearing to be a very toxic situation. I had watched a woman named Ezra who seemed to be completely out of touch with true reality. I felt my blood boil with anger. Ezra seems to be that person who was never told she was wrong. Maybe she was so annoying that it was easier to give in than continue a debate. It came across to me that she doesn't admit she's wrong even if the situation proves her wrong. I've been involved with people like this only in my working environment, as I would never surround myself with people such as herself in my personal life. The show ended by showing clips of the next show, and just as we guessed here, this Ezra person is talking the exact same trash that she denied doing earlier, but this time it's on hiden video. The mother is struggling to control her 14 yr old daughter, but how difficult do you think that would be to do while a close member of the family is degrading everything positive that was being done by this girls mother. I realize maybe there was very little that was positive, but with this amount of negativity, what could possibly remain positive??

 

I'll agree that Enza  has an interpersonal  style that is unsettling. The  fact of the matter is; however, the child was reared by the mother. The mother probably was a drunk, and she probably was promiscuous. The mother, no doubt, has permitted Enza to speak to her in this fashion without doing something about it. Again, this is the mother's interpersonal style. Notice how the kid's way of relating is oversexualized, and overly aggressive. Mom allowed her to be this way. Stop feeling sorry for Mom. She's not the victim, but she's acting like one.
 
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January 8, 2007, 9:49 pm PST

the truth!

 okay i happen to know this family personally alex went to my school ive met her mother im friends with her son and i just want to say that kim is not anything like that stupid aunt lady makes her out to be. ive met her and she seems like a normal woman who loves her kids, looks out for them, cares for them all she can, whatever the whole good mother deal. i have never once seen her drunk she is not an alcoholic she seems perfectly average to me and i dont want America getting the wrong impression of her. although alex does have problems of her own i doubt that they were the effect of a careless mother or "disgrace of a mother" or whatever that ignorant aunt said!!!!!!
 
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January 8, 2007, 10:02 pm PST

Thank you for clarifying

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 okay i happen to know this family personally alex went to my school ive met her mother im friends with her son and i just want to say that kim is not anything like that stupid aunt lady makes her out to be. ive met her and she seems like a normal woman who loves her kids, looks out for them, cares for them all she can, whatever the whole good mother deal. i have never once seen her drunk she is not an alcoholic she seems perfectly average to me and i dont want America getting the wrong impression of her. although alex does have problems of her own i doubt that they were the effect of a careless mother or "disgrace of a mother" or whatever that ignorant aunt said!!!!!!

After I saw the previews for next weeks show I KNEW that the aunt was causing all the drama. And IT PROVED it to Dr Phil even who caught it on camera inside the Dr Phil house. I see her(the aunt )as a poison and she should be removed from the house so Alex and Kim can mend/work on this situation for themselves.

 

(If you are who you say you are) KUDOS to you! :)

 
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January 8, 2007, 10:58 pm PST

why o why do some people have kids

this is not ok. i am a single mom with 3 boys and i try to do every thing i can to make sure they are happy and healthy, i even go as far as they come to work with me (if i am not done at work) after school. every parent makes mistaked i know i have and i know i am not done making them i will make mistakes with my kids until the are adults. But this is not just a lil bad like giving a kid a cookie for breakfast this is a BIG mess up

 

this poor girl needs some LOVE,

 

and the Aunt needs to chill or be chilled

 

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January 8, 2007, 11:02 pm PST

Webcam transcripts, part 1

Ok, I've already given my opinion (http://www.drphil.com/messageboard/topic/2152/msg/id/576130/#576130), and have just watched the webcam entries for everybody (http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/821/#, and click on the link provided, and go to webcam).

 

Because I had issues with things cutting with my 720K connection, I thought I'd provide transcripts for all of you, because there really is a lot more information there then was shown on the show. Here is the closest I could come to a faithful transcription of Alex's and Kim's webcam interviews. Enza and Jeanine (the grandmother) also had webcam interviews, but I didn't transcribe them because they take a really long they take a really long time, and it's getting really late here, and I need to get to bed. :)

 

Note: the reason you see a lot of "umms" and "uhs," is that I was trying to be as accurate in the transcription as possible. I don't know of anybody who could speak extemporaneously in front of a camera on national television without a lot of "umms" and "uhs."

 

Any question marks in the transcription are from words that I couldn't make out. I'm a little hard of hearing sometimes.

 

Paragraph separations in the "Kim" transcript are kind of arbitrary. I just picked places that I thought made sense.

 

Alex: clip #1:
Ok. I had a talk with my aunt, and uh... and that went good, because I think she's kind of feeling the same thing I'm feeling, but you know, it's all good, but... umm... yeah. So I'm feeling good now, because I think I'm going to change my life around, and do good... umm... yeah. So that's basically it. All right? Bye.

 

Alex: clip #2:
What's up! Umm, right now I'm recording myself and getting something to eat, but umm.. yeah, my mom is kind of feeling like... I think she's feeling like she's being left out because, uh, me and Enza are (?), but, my mom hasn't really talked to me much, but you know, she's being kind of too... oh, feeling guilty for me and this and that, but she knows that me and Enza like each other, we're like, bond.. bond, more than me and my mom do, so I think she's feeling kind of left out, I think she feels sad right now. She should get over it, because she's caused this problem. All right, bye.

 

Kim:
I'm hoping... that... this is all going to help Alex, umm... I hope that somebody can get deep down rooted inside the main problem, and figure out what's going on in that little girl of mine's head and heart and help her, uh... get the help that she needs. Umm... I'm not too much in shock that she's so open. She's, she's very open with, uh, strangers, and... and people and I don't know if that's an attention-getter or if that's, umm... that she just knows she needs help. Umm... and she's a very - she's a very good child, but on the other hand she is very responsive to... umm... goodness.

 

So, umm... I, uh, I hope we can get to the bottom of this, this week I believe is going to be a lot of... intense, umm, therapy and sessions with Dr. Phil and his team, and umm... I know Enza is gonna supposedly to come down here, and... kind of curious how that whole thing is going to pan out. Umm... Enza hasn't been around for my kids. She wants to claim that she's this great aunt, and she's amazing with my kids, and she's always been there for them, but you know what? She hasn't. That whole family's never been there for my children. I've done this all on my own for 17 years, and nobody's helped me. Umm.. and that's ok. You know? But... On the one hand, I wish that they would have stayed away, cause I, I truly deep down believe in my heart that they've caused a lot more, umm... hatred towards me and Alex that Alex should have towards me and I think a lot of that's been caused by, by Enza and her mom and her sister and, umm, Alex's dad. Well, Alex's dad, not really, 'cause Alex's dad doesn't really ever see her or spend time with her, so, umm, but I think that the three girls in that family have really caused a lot of drama, so it's going to be... you know, I understand Enza had good intentions about getting us on this show, because she didn't want to see Alex harm herself any more, but on the other hand where has Enza been this whole time? You know, when has she ever reached out to Alex and said 'You know, I'm here for you, and I want to help you...' she's never. And, umm, I have a really hard time with people who in my life, who've claimed they've been there for my kids and they haven't, so that's one thing that I want to address with, umm, Dr. Phil, because if it continues this way, then I don't want them in my kid's lives. I think it's toxic.

 

Umm... So you know, my goal is to just to get help for Alex, and, to bring my family back close together like it used to be, you know, a couple years ago, when we... did everything together, and we were always together, you know, we were the three amigos. We never went anywhere without each other. We were aways together, we were always laughing. You know, we've had our ups and downs, and some hard times, but for the most part, we've always stuck together, and I feel that that bond has been broken, somewhere along the way, between Alex and her brother, and Alex and me. So, umm... that's my biggest goal is to get my kids... together again, and... let me be the mom that I need to be for them, and, umm...

 

I don't know, we'll see. See what this week has to bring for us. Umm... I'm looking really forward to meeting with Dr. Phil, uh, and letting him know the dynamics of our family, and, uh, how it used to be, and what it is today, and... what my goals are for Alex... and, you know I hope that Alex... can really... open up and, uh, be honest... and sincere and, umm... fill that void in there that she's seeking out to fill. Umm, because I love her. I love her more than anything in the world, and I just want her to be ok. Thank you.

 
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