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Topic : 01/09 False Confessions

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Created on : Friday, January 05, 2007, 10:49:03 am
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Would you ever confess to a crime you didn’t commit? What if the authorities, police you thought you could trust, said that you committed a crime and that they had evidence to prove it? Would you begin to doubt yourself, even though you knew you were innocent? Dr. Phil explores the psychology of false confessions. After a young man was shot dead at a local pizza parlor, Jon, 24, found himself behind bars. He then spent six months in jail before being exonerated from murder charges. Why did he confess to a crime he didn’t commit? What role did the police play in his confession? Learn how the truth finally came out. Then, experts say some ‘fess up for fame, others do so to escape torturous interrogations. No one knows the art of getting confessions better than 29-year veteran New York City Homicide Detective Louis Scarcello. Hear about his interrogations and decide for yourself if the tactics used by law enforcement cross the line into coercion. Then, Marty Tankleff was just 17 when he was convicted of murdering his parents -- based on what he says was a police-coerced false confession. Sixteen years have passed with Marty still behind bars, but the question remains: Did he do it? Share your thoughts here.

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January 9, 2007, 9:32 am CST

wrongful conviction

i send this message, because my brother spent 10 and 1/2 years in prison in New York, for a murder he did NOT commit. he was convicted based on a false confession, and believe me, there was alot of police, and district attorney misconduct involved. with my persistence, and the help of Innocence Project, my brother was set free on May 16, 2006. what is most disturbing is that my brother has full blown AIDS, even before he went to prison, and he stayed alive to see his freedom, and he is staying alive to enjoy the lawsuit that is forth coming. also, the DNA that was eventually tested, returned a "hit" in the data bank of an inmate already serving a LIFE sentence for Murder, and the DA in my county knew of this in April, 2005, yet he held onto it for 1 year, before he gave in and my brother is free. this case gained alot of publicity.
 
January 9, 2007, 9:32 am CST

01/09 False Confessions

Quote From: the_unknown

The interrogators will work in shifts.  After 5 or 6 days of sleep deprivation, you'll be willing to say anything to make it stop.  And that's assuming they dont get out the thumbscrews.

 

 

please explane to me just how are they going to keep my body from shutting down after so many hours? are they going to give me drugs? hell im a drug addict  lol  and the system cant give me enough, i would welcome there efforts in trying thio,  heheheh, keep me from sleeping  hahaha i dont think so. when your body has reached its limits it will shut down all on its own, and no man yelling or nudging will wake it. but bring on the crank i say,  i will put that state in the poor house all by myuself. and i wont tell you i killed when i know i have not ill just do up all your dope in a attempt to try to get a confession from me, and ill be the one to ask ! got any more crank im sleepy still.
 
January 9, 2007, 9:36 am CST

01/09 False Confessions

Quote From: willnoah

i agree tis does happen, but i am concerned that there was no mention of all the good work law enforcement does...i n this day and age, it is always someone else's fault and the police are out to get everyone...i totally respect our law enforcement officials and if the evidence does not fit the confession, then the victim is vindicated...
how can you make mention of "all the good work law enforcement does" when they in fact violate someone's rights? i agree that there are some who enforce the law, but a good many violate it and our rights, and i believe they should be punished for as much as the law allows!!!!!
 
January 9, 2007, 9:40 am CST

01/09 False Confessions

i think most people misconstrue how police should be seen,you should only respect them for there position but trust! hummm i say give me reason to trust, for with out i trust not!
 
January 9, 2007, 9:46 am CST

This is because of the level of trust required.

Quote From: willnoah

i agree tis does happen, but i am concerned that there was no mention of all the good work law enforcement does...i n this day and age, it is always someone else's fault and the police are out to get everyone...i totally respect our law enforcement officials and if the evidence does not fit the confession, then the victim is vindicated...

This is because of the level of trust required.  If we had three or four bankers draining people's accounts, the focus would be on the cheats, rather than the thousands of honest bankers.

 

But there is another problem.  Groups are generally ineffective at policing themselves.  As there is no external entity to police the police, corruption has the ability to fester.  Even if 99.9 percent of policemen are honest, they will still look the other way when one of their own does wrong.  It's not unlike a large family.  Almost no one is going to "rat out" their brother.

 

 

 
January 9, 2007, 10:00 am CST

01/09 False Confessions

Quote From: the_unknown

The interrogators will work in shifts.  After 5 or 6 days of sleep deprivation, you'll be willing to say anything to make it stop.  And that's assuming they dont get out the thumbscrews.

 

 

wow i missed the thumbscrews part in your post i was laughing so hard  lol, damn i didnt know they still used them things or that they ever did, but i can assure you if they ever did that to me they would draw straws to see who were going to apply them! amazing what a few good kicks to ones nuts will do to them in short i would make them shoot me first. and even that wont make me tell you i killed some one if i didnt do it, it would only make me have to make a trip to the hospital or to the corroner, but i wont say what i didnt do no matter what.
 
January 9, 2007, 10:07 am CST

Sorry

Quote From: afraid

why would any one say they are guilty of something that they are not? is not your freedom worth more effort?am i to assume this country uses military means of interrogation's in order to acheve a confession from the general public? if this is the case than man and woman need to change there laws.and teach there children to never take the blame for something they are not gui;lty of, ther apple never falls far from the tree.
I usually think in lines similar to yours, but not this time.  Policemen do coerce not only confessions, but also false witness testimony.  I have seen it.  To believe otherwise is a bit naive.
 
January 9, 2007, 10:16 am CST

Are You French?

Quote From: mejganh

This is a typical story told by people living in "the greatest country of the world", witch is a selfchosen anouncement of course!! We in Europe and all around the rest of the world hear and see stories like this and much worse about Americans on our tv all the time. Does Americans ever think of their reputation in the rest of the world? Or do you all really think that you live in a separate planet? I have a desire to travel all around the world, but the US is hardly my first choise! The biggest problem we are facing with here is a practice of denial and secrecy at an unimaginable high level! There is corruption, segregation, unemployment, poverty, lack of knowledge and more and more and more in the US too just like any other country, but all your polititions, witch you yourselfs have given the power by voting on them, ever care about is weather other countries are "democratic" or not. I think the democraty in the US is just as a big illusion as any of David Copperfields' tricks! And the irony is that you Americans actually wish to force that same illusion you call "democraty" on to other countries!!  
You are the typical foreign bore who is always so ready to accuse this country of anything.  Do you really not get it?  You know of our problems because we do not keep them a secret, unlike others.  You don't even have the courage to say what cesspool you are writing from.  You speak of irony.  The true irony is that we repeatedly save your ungrateful butts because you have no strength or desire to take care of you own sorry backsides.  You call this a typical story.  I say you are a typical european (small "e" intended) who laments that you are now a continent of second class nations who can't even have a soccer game without a riot.  Please, do not visit here.  PLEASE!!!!!  The stench would be to much from you, the great  unwashed.  By the way, please learn to spell.
 
January 9, 2007, 10:28 am CST

01/09 False Confessions

Quote From: flrat69

I usually think in lines similar to yours, but not this time.  Policemen do coerce not only confessions, but also false witness testimony.  I have seen it.  To believe otherwise is a bit naive.
then you are saying to confess to gilt you have not, in order to have rest you need not.
 
January 9, 2007, 10:31 am CST

01/09 False Confessions

Quote From: flrat69

I usually think in lines similar to yours, but not this time.  Policemen do coerce not only confessions, but also false witness testimony.  I have seen it.  To believe otherwise is a bit naive.
what measures did you take to stop the wrongful doing you eyewittnesed?
 
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