Topic : 06/11 Mega Moochers

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Created on : Friday, January 05, 2007, 10:50:16 am
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(Original Air Date: 1/10/07) Dr. Phil takes on a different kind of moocher … the Mega Moocher! Not only do these extreme freeloaders refuse to work -- decades at a time -- but they expect you to support them and their entire family forever! Connie says her 33-year-old son, Richard, is so lazy and selfish that he actually found a way to put her out of her own home, so he could move his family of five in. Connie and her husband, Rick, say they have paid over $30,000 in the last 18 months to support Richard, and they have had enough. Is an eviction the only way to get him out? And can Connie live with the guilt, knowing it could leave her three grandchildren homeless as well? Then, Janelle wants her brother, Jeff, to stop mooching off their 91-year-old grandfather, who has been supporting him for 18 years. Jeff says he has no need to work because he doesn’t have kids. Will this be the day these guests put an end to their family members’ freeloading ways? Tell us what you think!

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January 10, 2007, 3:25 pm PST

MEGA Moocher Richard

I am just plain flabbergasted that there are people in this world such as the mooch Richard. Even more incedible to believe is that the mother had to go to court to evict him. why not call the cops, show the deed and ask Richard to produce a lease? No lease, he gets a blue uniform escort to the curb. Richard, meet curb, welcome to the real world of supporting your family YOURSELF. I can't believe he has the audacity to sit there and say "I'm not looking for a handout, I just want a mom." OMG he is pathetic.

Richard, wake up and take responsibility for yourself and your actions. You have health issues that prevent you from working? I see MANY handicapped people with MUCH more severe disabilities working and supporting their families. As Dr. Phil says "You can't fix what you don't acknowledge." It's easy to make excuses, much harder to be a man and do what's right.
 
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January 10, 2007, 3:40 pm PST

01/10 Mega Moochers

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I think your message is a little cinical!!! it absolutly mean's something to share DNA. My children are very closely attached to my heart string's & i would never want them to suffer. These problem's started long before these people were adult's. I don't agree with people mooching off family, but i do think they had a little help in learning how to manipulate. Have you ever heard that saying... " what we fear, we create" be careful. I trust that i am raising my family to be very self sufficient.

 

cheer's from canada

No, a lot cynical, really, I would gladly DIE for my kids, but if the DNA meant so much, how do adoptive parents fall just as much in love as the biological ones do.

Besides, I was trying to make this point, DNA does NOT give anyone the right to treat someone like DIRT, or steal thier home, that was the point I was making.

I don't fear my kids mooching, because they know it won't happen.  My sixteen year old has a part time job, she's saving some, and using some for fun ( where we live they roll up the streets by six), my son at fourteen earns money by doing odd jobs in the winter (snow shoveling this years been rough for him, or cleaning out the garden shed etc. )in the summer he works on the local farms.

I've already told both that I will be living in a one bedroom apartment when the leave home, I will always be there for them, but my financial OBLIGATIONS END technically when they are 18 years of age, after that its MY CHOICE.

And I know from experience what Moochers are capable of, and how they suck you into their world, so cynical, okay I'll take it, Jaded I admit, and a hardened realist too boot !

 
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January 10, 2007, 3:43 pm PST

01/10 Mega Moochers

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I can't believe the 33 year old moocher is using the bad back for an excuse. I have have 3 back surgeries and continue to work full-time. Four of my vertebrae are fused.Vicodin and Flexeril help me stay off disability. I am almost 55 and also do my own yard work. Shame on him

                                                                              

                                                                                         Carol Anderson

lol it seems there not making backs like mine and yours any more  hahaha, glad to know you have been through all that and are doing good .
 
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January 10, 2007, 3:45 pm PST

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What you usually have is an unfortunate mix of personalities in these situations. You have one personality that is a sponge and another that is too nice for it's own good....
yeah  lol , you could call it spongebob squaremooch  hehehehe.
 
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January 10, 2007, 4:05 pm PST

Ok....had to register and respond to your post

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  My FIL lost his job over 2 years ago. When his unemployment ran out he started taking money from his 401K. We tried to tell him to get a job, he only had 3 years until he could collect partial social security. He refused to take a job at Home Depot or something like that, it was "not good enough for him". He worked on a line in a factory. He would not take factory work because he was "tired" of it. Needless to say for 2 years he did not even look for a job. His 401 ran out. Then he told us he needed to stay with us for a "month or two", until he could save money for a new apartment. With reservations, I agreed.

  He made our live hell for the last six months. He did not pay a dime to live here. We were supporting him, my MIL, and our two children. He would turn the heat up to 75 to 80 in our house. We informed him that the $200 + gas bills were getting to be too much for us to pay, he still continued to do what he wanted. He would leave lists of what he wanted me to buy for groceries, and certain kinds of soap and laundry detergent that was the "only kind he could use".

  Not only did he demand what he wanted and expect us to pay for it, but he was verbally abusive to myself and my 11 year old daughter. We were both called fat and lazy on a daily basis. My grocery, electric, gas and cable bill doubled. When we asked that he atleast buy some of his own groceries he said "I am having a hard time right now". His hard time is sinking my family both finaincially and emotionally.  When his son came home from  the military  he had to buy his own food and pay rent.

  Should I have to support my inlaws? It is hard enough to support our family of four. My husband works 2  jobs, and I work full time. He has yet to look for a place to live. We gave him the numbers for the senior center, telling him they can help find low income housing. He refuses to do anything but sit on the couch and watch TV. My patience is at its end.

When I read your post, I had to register and respond to you. 

 

I think that you and your husband had good intentions and all but it makes me angry to hear what you are going through now.  I am sure you are in a difficult position with this but you guys have got to stand together and set up some boundaries.  I am working through some stuff myself with boundaries right now with my family.  It can be tough to do but you have got to take care of you and your family.  I am talking about your marriage and children.

 

I would have to tell your in-laws that enough is enough.  Give them a timeframe and tell them that you are sorry but they have got to go.  I would have to tell them that you have opened your home to them long enough and that it does not seem that they appreciate it but expect things from you now.

 

To answer your question:  Should I have to support my inlaws?    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

I could understand if there was an illness involved but this man sounds able-bodied but just plain lazy.  Seriously, there are jobs out there.  They might not be exactly what he wants, but he can still look while he is supporting himself and wife.

 

Please, for the sake of your family, get together with your husband and stand up for yourselves.  You are within your rights to stop this insanity and take your lives back.  Sit them down and tell them that they have x amount of time (please make it short) and that they have to make other arrangements.

 

People think you are mean when you set boundaries and stick to it, but believe me, it is for your own good and theirs.  It may be hard at first, but they will get over it.

 

I feel for you and you have someone in your corner.  I know you were trying to do the right thing.

 

 

 
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January 10, 2007, 4:29 pm PST

Jeff

I missed about half the show but did see the interview with Jeff (motor man) and his sister.  Did anyone else notice the deadness in his eyes? He was kinda just draped on the chair.  He did smile once or twice.  Plus,as the final shot of him as the credits rolled, you could see his jaw clench and unclench even though he was applauding with the audience.  I think this guy is a time bomb. He doesn't want to be bothered.  He is intimidating to his family and others I'm sure. Another  post mentioned a protective services referral.  Someone should keep a close eye on this guy.  Not his overly protective family nor his Pollyanna sister.  She just wants them to "be a family".  Dr. Phil was kinda right in that it is his decision to live in the trailer by the river or in a van, whatever.  He needs to do it alone.  And I would beware when he comes calling for help.
 
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January 10, 2007, 4:31 pm PST

01/10 Mega Moochers

I have a different view of this.  I believe the mom, grandmom found a young guy and decided to dump out her son and grandchildren so she could have the house or sell the house to keep this dopey looking loser.  Note the young studs hair and dopey mannerisms.  Some women will do anything for a piece of young A++.  I really think its rotten of her to allow her son to live in her home for months and suddenly tell him to leave without skills and three young children in tow.  After all, she raised him.  Why didnt she stress education to him while growing up.  Its very expensive to live today with a family even on two incomes.  Lets be real.  Its not nice to dump your son and grandkids out into the streeet so you can have some young sex.  Whats this guy after anyway with an old fat lady?

 
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January 10, 2007, 4:36 pm PST

2 sides to a coin

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lol it seems there not making backs like mine and yours any more  hahaha, glad to know you have been through all that and are doing good .

I can relate to the fact that it is hard to hold down a job with back issues.  Some folks can and do suck it up and deal with it and keep on pushing through the pain.  Some people can't and possible get into a woe is me rut and is overwhelmed by the whole dilemma and give up trying.  

I am 51 yrs old and have had 2 back surgeries, I have permanent brain damage from an accident and multiple other issues from a life of hard work and farm life.  I have tried and tried for years to "suck it up" and keep going, situation for me is that if you are HONEST on an application noone will hire me and IF I get stopped driving on the medications I must take to be mobile I will be arrested for DUI as some are made to make you sleep or relaxed and there is 9 different meds total I take each day.    I was lucky to have a kind mom when I was younger who helped me and when I got a settlement for the accidents she helped to get me established in my own home and get it paid for.   I am much older now and am much more disabled and I was KILLING myself to keep a job I had for 5 years when my husband got sick.  My boss gave me a leave of absence to take care of him till he died then let some time pass telling me there was no openings yet then after a year told me he wouldn't re-hire me.   I have NO other options so to pay my bills I am selling my household goods month by month.   What the bottom line here is that there CAN be circumstances beyond ones control that prevent life to go smoothly. 

I'm just sayin...........

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January 10, 2007, 4:42 pm PST

This show gave me goosebumps......

Because it was like my life being played to me.   I am a step-mom and wife to a long-haul truck driver which leaves me head of household much of the time.  My 19 year old step son is currently living with us.  We had raised him since he was 10.  His mother is a drug addict and forced us to take custody of both of my husbands children a little over 8 years ago.  My step-son has always had problems with authority (police, teachers, etc.).  When he was 16 we were forced to send him to a boarding school in Missouri where he stayed for 9 months.  He convinced his Dad that he was "reformed".  Even though the school told my husband his son wasn't ready to come back my step-son came home.  He IMMEDIATELY went back to his old ways.  He stole our car and did body damage, he stayed out for days on end.  In Oregon there is no runaway law so he could stay gone as long as he wanted to (which he did).  After 4 months of grueling hell we hired 2 Sherriffs from Missouri to fly to Oregon and take my step-son back to the boarding school.   He stayed there until he graduated.  My husband felt such guilt for having to send him away to school that he let his son come back.  He worked a few jobs here and there and told us that he was going to college in the fall.  We told him he could stay if he was going to school.  Instead on the day college was to start he got on a plane to visit his mother in Arizona.  Three months later he calls and grovels to come back.  Of course his father let him.  He has now been back a month and still doesn't have a job.  He goes to the library and plays on MySpace all day, parties with his friends.  We have much more history with child such as he has been physically abusive with everyone in our family, he has had a drinking problem since he was about 15 (but refuses to admit it).  His bedroom was such a filthy mess that yesterday I was forced to clean it because the smell was now permiating the rest of the upstairs.  I had to clean up cigars, used condoms, old food, etc.  We told him 1 week ago that he had to be out in 10 days.  Times up on Friday.  His father is on the road and I'm alone with him.  I'm afraid to try to enforce this.  Do I let him stay or make him go and if so how.
 
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January 10, 2007, 4:47 pm PST

01/10 Mega Moochers

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I am just plain flabbergasted that there are people in this world such as the mooch Richard. Even more incedible to believe is that the mother had to go to court to evict him. why not call the cops, show the deed and ask Richard to produce a lease? No lease, he gets a blue uniform escort to the curb. Richard, meet curb, welcome to the real world of supporting your family YOURSELF. I can't believe he has the audacity to sit there and say "I'm not looking for a handout, I just want a mom." OMG he is pathetic.

Richard, wake up and take responsibility for yourself and your actions. You have health issues that prevent you from working? I see MANY handicapped people with MUCH more severe disabilities working and supporting their families. As Dr. Phil says "You can't fix what you don't acknowledge." It's easy to make excuses, much harder to be a man and do what's right.
Unfortunately in some states (such as Oregon) if you allow someone to stay with you, even though they are not paying rent for such a length of time to establish residency you must evict them legally.  In Oregon is takes 45 days to establish residency.  Once your house guest has been with you 45 days they become a tenant.  This is so way wrong but it's the law.  We know this one from personal experience.
 

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