Topic : 06/11 Mega Moochers

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(Original Air Date: 1/10/07) Dr. Phil takes on a different kind of moocher … the Mega Moocher! Not only do these extreme freeloaders refuse to work -- decades at a time -- but they expect you to support them and their entire family forever! Connie says her 33-year-old son, Richard, is so lazy and selfish that he actually found a way to put her out of her own home, so he could move his family of five in. Connie and her husband, Rick, say they have paid over $30,000 in the last 18 months to support Richard, and they have had enough. Is an eviction the only way to get him out? And can Connie live with the guilt, knowing it could leave her three grandchildren homeless as well? Then, Janelle wants her brother, Jeff, to stop mooching off their 91-year-old grandfather, who has been supporting him for 18 years. Jeff says he has no need to work because he doesn’t have kids. Will this be the day these guests put an end to their family members’ freeloading ways? Tell us what you think!

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March 22, 2007, 10:19 am PDT

Here we go again.....

my exhusband who still lives with me and my 3 children won't work because he says he has a bad back. Some doctors have confirmed there is a problem, but some have other opinions...His family dr. says his number one cause of back pain is due to obesity. He weighs 300lbs, and is 5'10'' tall. Am i being to naive about supporting him? This looks like a no brainer, but I keep him around so that my daughter (his biological daugher) does not have to end up from a broken home. We divorced because I divorced him...But I never got him gone. I realized the importance of having him for my daughter. Am I wrong to not have sex or anything with this man who still lives in my house, and who I do still love, but hate his ways. Someone please tell me I am not crazy.......Angela
 
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March 22, 2007, 2:40 pm PDT

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my exhusband who still lives with me and my 3 children won't work because he says he has a bad back. Some doctors have confirmed there is a problem, but some have other opinions...His family dr. says his number one cause of back pain is due to obesity. He weighs 300lbs, and is 5'10'' tall. Am i being to naive about supporting him? This looks like a no brainer, but I keep him around so that my daughter (his biological daugher) does not have to end up from a broken home. We divorced because I divorced him...But I never got him gone. I realized the importance of having him for my daughter. Am I wrong to not have sex or anything with this man who still lives in my house, and who I do still love, but hate his ways. Someone please tell me I am not crazy.......Angela
Are you wrong to not have sex with your ex-husband? Um..no. You are divorced. Not that marriage is an open ticket to constant sex either, but you are divorced, you are basically "co-parents" now.

His pain is probably legitimate, but he could lose weight to lessen the stress. Maybe it's time you give him some options. Not exactly an ultimatum, but try to make a next step so your family isn't stuck on this for ever.
 
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March 29, 2007, 10:32 am PDT

"co parents"

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Are you wrong to not have sex with your ex-husband? Um..no. You are divorced. Not that marriage is an open ticket to constant sex either, but you are divorced, you are basically "co-parents" now.

His pain is probably legitimate, but he could lose weight to lessen the stress. Maybe it's time you give him some options. Not exactly an ultimatum, but try to make a next step so your family isn't stuck on this for ever.

Thanks for that reply...I feel the same way about the options. Our daughter is 8, and my other 2 boys are 18 and 20.  I have tried to talk as nice as I can about him losing weight somehow, and have been extremely and carefully tactful in the way I present this option. He is just so depressed about his situation that I can't seem to get him to budge. This is a very destructive cycle and it really is affecting the whole family dynamics. I work every day, my sons work every day and John does not do much of anything all day. Maybe sometimes he will do a load of laundry, or load the dishwasher, but other than that, he is just stagnant. I have tried to get him to find some sort of treatment options for this back problem, and while I do think he is considering some, I also think he is using this as a crutch to obtain disability. He has been denied twice, and now has an attorney that will probably be successful in getting some sort of resolution to his disability case; however, the money he receives will not fix the problem, nor will it fix his attitude of depression. I don't want to sound calloused to his problem, but I am at my wits end... Any suggestions?

 

 
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June 9, 2007, 3:43 am PDT

hi doctor phil ;)

salamo alaykom

im Sara from morocco(north africa)and i'm 20 years old, i want to write you this message to thank you for all what you did to people .your are a really a good man.

and thank too your beautiful wife and your sons ;)

another time thank you and here in morocco we love you very much

nice day ;)

 
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June 9, 2007, 3:49 am PDT

Mega Moochers

Finally this is being addressed!

This is a Major thing that is Happening all over and you will find alot of times its the Men who do this not all so do not get me wrong but the boys the spoiled rotten ones like my own brother!!!

We have had this in our family my almost 50 year old brother is living off of my mom (70) and my disabled step father(72) who has MS.  Him and his girlfriend moved in there in Sept for what was to be only 3 weeks! well here we are June 9 months later and he is still there!!! They have wrecked and Drove there Van into the Ground and they have no money to get a new one. I have for the last few months been doing the 100 mile round trip to the house there to take them shopping or to the Doctors and well  I decided enough was enough read on.~ 

 

Here is a Kicker for ya all to see. I am evil!  My mom has always caved in to my brothers wishes and this time there is no going back.. I listed the house sense I own it well owned it (I told my mom that this was the only way for them to get rid of him which is it so true and I NEVER agreed with them moving in there in the first place! )  with an Real Estate Lady and sold it last week  the thing was we would make appointments to show it and of course have to tell them stories the visiting nurse ect ect was coming and they had to go..

We took my mom around to a few really nice Senor Living Apartments in this area and finally found one that they liked. In the Long run it is going to be so much cheaper for them to live there then out in a 3 bedroom house and they have shuttle vans that go to the stores around here at no cost to them ( we moved her closer to myself and my sister) and for 2 dollars round trip they will take them to the Doctors.

 

The best part of my year was June 6th when I went up and did the closing on the house and afterwords myself and  the New  owners went  there and told my mom that it was final and that they had to be out by July 1st.

 

My Brother was like what???

You should have seen the looks on there faces when I told them that I had sold the house and that as of July 1st they had better find some form of shelter because they could no longer Mooch off of my mom and stepdad! It was PRICELESS Then we hit them with the fact that they are moving into a Retirement Community that only has One Bedroom and Security Cameras and Guards the whole deal and that him and his girlfriend could not go there to live with them :) you have to be on the lease and over 65.

 

Its a Sad thing that some people do this but in our case I blame my mom for this he is a lazy does not work and she works to support both of there crack habits and a dinky resturant and what she gets in tips the crack up on.. So basically at this point in time if they live in the streets as nasty as it sounds I DO Not Care at least my mom and stepdad can eat and pay there bills and know that they dont have to lock up everything.

 

So if nothing else works for any of you all talk your parents into selling if they own and move them to a nice place or in with you which would have been my next step My brother has been here done that and I went to court and evicted him you would have thought my mom would have learned by my mistakes!

 

 
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June 9, 2007, 7:36 am PDT

06/11 Mega Moochers

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  My FIL lost his job over 2 years ago. When his unemployment ran out he started taking money from his 401K. We tried to tell him to get a job, he only had 3 years until he could collect partial social security. He refused to take a job at Home Depot or something like that, it was "not good enough for him". He worked on a line in a factory. He would not take factory work because he was "tired" of it. Needless to say for 2 years he did not even look for a job. His 401 ran out. Then he told us he needed to stay with us for a "month or two", until he could save money for a new apartment. With reservations, I agreed.

  He made our live hell for the last six months. He did not pay a dime to live here. We were supporting him, my MIL, and our two children. He would turn the heat up to 75 to 80 in our house. We informed him that the $200 + gas bills were getting to be too much for us to pay, he still continued to do what he wanted. He would leave lists of what he wanted me to buy for groceries, and certain kinds of soap and laundry detergent that was the "only kind he could use".

  Not only did he demand what he wanted and expect us to pay for it, but he was verbally abusive to myself and my 11 year old daughter. We were both called fat and lazy on a daily basis. My grocery, electric, gas and cable bill doubled. When we asked that he atleast buy some of his own groceries he said "I am having a hard time right now". His hard time is sinking my family both finaincially and emotionally.  When his son came home from  the military  he had to buy his own food and pay rent.

  Should I have to support my inlaws? It is hard enough to support our family of four. My husband works 2  jobs, and I work full time. He has yet to look for a place to live. We gave him the numbers for the senior center, telling him they can help find low income housing. He refuses to do anything but sit on the couch and watch TV. My patience is at its end.

That is rediculas, You need to kick him out! WHY are you supporting him!! Its natural to feel bad for him because your probably a caring person but when hes calling you lazy and degrading youand your child when your the one who is supporting him, you need to take a long hard look at your financial situation and how his lazyness is effecting your life! He has no motivation or will to do anything! You dont need to he harboring a loser that thinks that everyone owes him a liveing!  Everyone else has to work in this world to get what they need but he tries to live of the system and our tax dollars! Kick him out before he drives you into the ground financialy or emotionally, you shouldnt be talking care of a grown man that is fully capable of talking care of himself and personally if your doing everything for him he should be more grateful!  WORDS OF WISDOM!!    GOOD LUCK!!!!!
 

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June 9, 2007, 9:50 am PDT

Don't let it start

My husband and I had seen several friends suckered by their children into allowing them to return home with babies in tow.  Supposedly short stays turned into years and years.  Even when they finally moved out, they would come almost daily for dinner.  We resolved this would never happen to us, and it hasn't.  Our daughter wanted to live at home and work after college.  She asked if we would charge her rent.  I quoted her a high rent, and she found a job in a nearby city and got her own apartment.  Our son showed no inclination to go to college until his sister talked to him.  She said, "Mom and Dad won't let you live at home unless you're working, and they will charge you rent."  All of a sudden, he was interested in college!   When he graduated from college, he stayed at home for a month.  We staked him $2000 while he settled near Chicago to look for work.  Magically, he had a job on the day his last nickel ran out, and he's been working ever since.  Both of them grumbled a bit when we introduced them to the hard facts of life, but they now realize we did them a favor.  They are successful, productive members of society, and we helped them get there!
 

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June 9, 2007, 10:02 am PDT

at least some one can get help from Dr Phil

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  My FIL lost his job over 2 years ago. When his unemployment ran out he started taking money from his 401K. We tried to tell him to get a job, he only had 3 years until he could collect partial social security. He refused to take a job at Home Depot or something like that, it was "not good enough for him". He worked on a line in a factory. He would not take factory work because he was "tired" of it. Needless to say for 2 years he did not even look for a job. His 401 ran out. Then he told us he needed to stay with us for a "month or two", until he could save money for a new apartment. With reservations, I agreed.

  He made our live hell for the last six months. He did not pay a dime to live here. We were supporting him, my MIL, and our two children. He would turn the heat up to 75 to 80 in our house. We informed him that the $200 + gas bills were getting to be too much for us to pay, he still continued to do what he wanted. He would leave lists of what he wanted me to buy for groceries, and certain kinds of soap and laundry detergent that was the "only kind he could use".

  Not only did he demand what he wanted and expect us to pay for it, but he was verbally abusive to myself and my 11 year old daughter. We were both called fat and lazy on a daily basis. My grocery, electric, gas and cable bill doubled. When we asked that he atleast buy some of his own groceries he said "I am having a hard time right now". His hard time is sinking my family both finaincially and emotionally.  When his son came home from  the military  he had to buy his own food and pay rent.

  Should I have to support my inlaws? It is hard enough to support our family of four. My husband works 2  jobs, and I work full time. He has yet to look for a place to live. We gave him the numbers for the senior center, telling him they can help find low income housing. He refuses to do anything but sit on the couch and watch TV. My patience is at its end.

I wish dr phil would just help me with a few problems  any advise would help me.
 
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June 9, 2007, 10:17 am PDT

Enablers

Just like enabling an alcoholic or drug addict, family members or friends who support able bodied adults that do not work are enablers. The only answer is they need to get a job and contribute their  fare share to household expenses or move them out. Some people only learn by the school of hard knocks. Just like under the "Welfare to Work" laws, these people need to work or be disabled enough to qualify for Social Security Disability.  Any other excuse is enabling in my books. Plain and simple.
 
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June 9, 2007, 10:18 am PDT

06/11 Mega Moochers

  I have a 47 yr old daughter that has been addicted to drugs and bad associations for over 15 yrs. I raised one of her children and still helpiing that child...The other child is adopted out because I am 70 and can not start all over again raising another one.  It never ends with my daughter. She continues to get prescriptions for drugs with doctors. She has me so mentally tired.    She thinks she can bounce back and forth in my home when she doesn't have any money. She is a transit......she doesn't help me or anyone, not even herself........I am at the end of my ropes.    So tired.  so tired.
 

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