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(Original Air Date: 01/12/07) How many times have you heard your spouse say, "I'm right, and you're wrong"? Dr. Phil's guests are in a stand-off, and they want him to settle their dispute once and for all! Carla says her dog, Thomas, is her number one priority, but her husband, Tony, says she's gone way overboard with her puppy love. Tony says that Thomas gets the run of the house, and Carla cuddles with Thomas in bed instead of him. Should Carla make room for Tony, or does Tony need to get over his canine envy? Next up is a family caught in a style war. Betty lets her 15- and 11-year-old daughters wear short shorts, high heels and thong underwear. Her husband, Richie, says he'd rather see them covered from head to toe. Does Richie need to get with the times and realize these girls are just dressing in style, or has Betty let the girls take it too far? Then, Christine says her husband, Kevin, is out five nights a week playing or coaching sports, leaving her home with their 1-year-old son. Kevin says he deserves to get away from the ruckus of a chaotic household, and Christine knew he was a jock when they got married. Can Kevin learn to say no to others and yes to his wife and child? And, Lisa says her husband, Erik's, passion for flying is too dangerous, and he needs to give it up now that they have three young sons. Erik says flying is in his blood and it’s safer than driving a car. When Dr. Phil shares a personal story, will it put Lisa at ease? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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January 14, 2007, 8:00 pm PST

Victims shouldn't be blamed.

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Are you serious???? Look at all the kids in the world who have been kidnapped...there is NO common thread of them dressing immodestly. This is just another way to blame the victim for crime!

We seldom agree, but you are CORRECT on this one.

 

However, messages are sent by the way adults and children dress and we adults need to acknowledge that we DO send messages thru our speech, actions, clothing, activities, etc. Young boys (and girls) often lack common sense, they think fast (and not often enough), and they have learned (from terrible TV, videos, etc) that girls are sex machines who want sex with multiple partners. Young boys lack the maturity that adult males have (or should have) so their assessment of the skanky dressed girls may be wrong, but it seems right to them.

 

Children that young do not choose to look sexy or slutty, etc. It's the mothers (and sometimes fathers) who CHOOSE that message for their innocent girls. Then they don't like the response they sometimes get!

 

Clothing manufacturers for young girls/pre-teen girls offer little but grunge and skank. They want our girls to grow up fast so they will fall into the trap of wanting expensive clothing, wanting to keep up with the ever-changing style, etc. This means more $$$ to them, which is always the bottom line.

 

It's our job as parents to make sure our children follow the rules, have self-respect and show respect. Good kids can dress poorly and can be the nicest, best kids around (and bads can wear conservative, designer clothing), but we ALL need to ADMIT that what we wear sends messages and we shouldn't be surprised that people make judgements. We're all human, even the little boys with the loads of testosterone!

 
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January 14, 2007, 10:05 pm PST

01/12 Settle This!

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Contrary to the old, over-used, stereotypical feminist thought, we women are not always victims. These mothers are making choices for their young girls knowing full well what the message being given off is. Are the boys correct in their assessments? Probably not. But should it be expected since they are immature, silly human beings not fully grown? Of course.

 

In reality, often the way a woman dresses does INDICATE her sexual proclivities/preferences. Go to any bar on a weekend evening and it's quite obvious who is looking to go home with someone. Everything we say (blatant) and not say (our clothing, our movements, our eye contact, etc) sends a message.

 

We women want respect, but then don't have a clue as to how to go about getting it (in many instances). These young girls are probably unknowingly sending a message that is FALSE about them. But their mother knows exactly what message is being sent.! She apparently finds that acceptable. The father has a RIGHT to disagree since they are his girls, too.

 

Contrary to your opinion, we women ARE NOT dumb and we DO KNOW what we do (and the messages we send). We make the CHOICES,, so we must agree to accept the consequences of those choices.

 

I am SO TIRED of women being portrayed as victims; we should OWN our choices!

Clothes do NOT honestly reflect a woman's sexuality. And this kind of superficial judgment is just as dumb as assuming a fat person is lazy or a thin person doesn't eat or that a person with tattoo's are evil....That is my only point.
 
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January 14, 2007, 10:08 pm PST

01/12 Settle This!

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We seldom agree, but you are CORRECT on this one.

 

However, messages are sent by the way adults and children dress and we adults need to acknowledge that we DO send messages thru our speech, actions, clothing, activities, etc. Young boys (and girls) often lack common sense, they think fast (and not often enough), and they have learned (from terrible TV, videos, etc) that girls are sex machines who want sex with multiple partners. Young boys lack the maturity that adult males have (or should have) so their assessment of the skanky dressed girls may be wrong, but it seems right to them.

 

Children that young do not choose to look sexy or slutty, etc. It's the mothers (and sometimes fathers) who CHOOSE that message for their innocent girls. Then they don't like the response they sometimes get!

 

Clothing manufacturers for young girls/pre-teen girls offer little but grunge and skank. They want our girls to grow up fast so they will fall into the trap of wanting expensive clothing, wanting to keep up with the ever-changing style, etc. This means more $$$ to them, which is always the bottom line.

 

It's our job as parents to make sure our children follow the rules, have self-respect and show respect. Good kids can dress poorly and can be the nicest, best kids around (and bads can wear conservative, designer clothing), but we ALL need to ADMIT that what we wear sends messages and we shouldn't be surprised that people make judgements. We're all human, even the little boys with the loads of testosterone!

"We're all human, even the little boys with the loads of testosterone!"

I was with you until you wrote that. Is this another excuse for men?
 
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January 15, 2007, 6:05 am PST

feminine vs sexual

I think it was slightly disturbing that the 4 year old was dressing like the 11 and 15 year olds.  A child that young shouldn't dress in a sexual way.  You can dress her in a feminine way, but not a sexual way. 

I think in society we've confused femininity with sexuality.  I can dress in a conservative designer clothes and look cute and feminine but not package myself in way that suggests that i'm a sexual being because i have so much more to offer in my life than sex.  I don't know, just a thought on society.

 
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January 15, 2007, 9:04 am PST

01/12 Settle This!

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hi thanks for writeing back .you must live in a little town called sonora .thats all we have here is a wal-mart .im a single mom and i just moved here about 1.5 months ago my 3yr old dose the same thing when im busy doing something hes eather under my feet or doing somthing hes not suppose to . somtimes i get soo mad becouse i want him to listen to me .i sat him in the corner.that didnt woke i even tried doing things with him but that only works for a while then he gets stubern again .hes so smart i tryed puting locks on the closet doors to keep out but he figgers how to open them .I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW TO GET HIM TO LISTEN TO ME .                                                    thanks msdd03
Yes I do live in a small town in Indiana.  I'm from Louisville, KY originally so it was really hard moving here with nothing to do.  If you are at your wits end with him talk to his pediatrician.  He/she should be able to give you some suggestions.  If you are a religious person you could take him to church and get him involved in some of the kids activities that some churches have.  It's also a good way to meet people for yourself.  If your being a single mom is a new thing he may be acting out to that.  I couldn't tell you how to get him to listen to you because I can't get mine to either.  I think it's just kids.  They want to do things their way.  I hope you can find some help with this.  I'm not a single mother, I can't imagine doing it alone, but I am home alone from 7 am to 10pm just about every day.  It' tough and when you have nobody to turn to it can seem so overwhelming.  Just hang in there.  Maybe your town offers some activities for young children, like sports.  Alot of those start at age 4.  Again talk to his doctor and see what he recommends.  Sorry I can't be of more help but if you need someone to talk to shoot me a message.  My email is stacygrobinson@peoplepc.com. :-)
 
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January 15, 2007, 9:44 am PST

top dog is the provider--regardless of who pays

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You think that the person who is "top dog" is the one who makes the paycheck? Why?

Other than that I agree with you....but making money doesn't make someone boss.
In my opinion--and granted, I'm not the Dog Whisperer--the top dog is the one who provides the food. Whether that's the woman who pours the food into his bowl even if she doesn't pay for it (I inferred from the wife saying that she's home alone all day with the dog that she doesn't work), I don't  know.

My basic point is that  a human being should not be subservient to a dog. Having a dog who tried to be very dominant over me when I first met her, I understand this firsthand.

And apologies if the remarks I made about the husband/breadwinner were sexist. I suppose that being the person in my relationship who makes the most money,  I may have seen the story more through the husband's eyes. And no, I'm NOT a MAN, but a woman.
 
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January 15, 2007, 11:17 am PST

I need Someone to Settle This!

I have just become a stay-at-home mom after having our first baby.  My husband works, and now I agree that it's "my job" to do the cleaning around the house, since I stay home.  However, I do still believe that every person in our family, husband included has the responsibility to pick up after themselves.  Like I told my husband, I don't mind washing the clothes and the dishes, etc. But he still needs to pick up after himself and put his dirty clothes in the hamper and the dirty dishes in the sink.  No, he thinks I should pick up after him too, since "that's my job, now."  His lazy ways are driving me crazy!  And he did it before I stayed home too, but now he's just using this as an excuse, in my opinion.  Someone, Settle this for us!

 
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January 15, 2007, 2:32 pm PST

01/12 Settle This!

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I have just become a stay-at-home mom after having our first baby.  My husband works, and now I agree that it's "my job" to do the cleaning around the house, since I stay home.  However, I do still believe that every person in our family, husband included has the responsibility to pick up after themselves.  Like I told my husband, I don't mind washing the clothes and the dishes, etc. But he still needs to pick up after himself and put his dirty clothes in the hamper and the dirty dishes in the sink.  No, he thinks I should pick up after him too, since "that's my job, now."  His lazy ways are driving me crazy!  And he did it before I stayed home too, but now he's just using this as an excuse, in my opinion.  Someone, Settle this for us!

Tell your husband that he is a big boy and he is quite capable of putting his dirty clothes in the hamper, what's the big deal, you take em off, place them in the hamper! Tell him you agreed to stay home to be the primary caregiver of your child which is a job in itself, you do not have a problem with the household chores but he needs to RESPECT you and help make your job as easy as possible. tell him that clothes in the hamper gets washed, if they are not in the hamper, then they may not make it to the washing machine and leave it at that. When he complains, remind him that you only do what is in the hamper, with taking care of the baby all day long, and doing the household chores, you do not always have time to create new jobs for your self. Remind him that you are a mom and a wife, NOT A MAID! If he wants a maid then he is more then welcome to HIRE one.

Taking care of a home and kids takes two, every one who llives within the household needs to do their part and if couples do not work together, then the child will grow up and learn to manipulate and play parents against one another and that is a bad thing, it all makes a whole lot of sense, it's just that some spouses has to be taught/reminded that life isn't all about them.

As far as the dishes go, make it easy, start using paper plates. if he isn't gonna help make things easy, then make them easy on your self, at least you won't have to wash dishes and when he asks what the deal is, tell him that as  a stay at home mom and chores around the house and no one to help do the little things, then you are taking the iniative to make things easier on your self, tell him you do not make enough money to be a maid but your desire is to be able to sepnd as much time with your family as possible and being a maid  takes  part of that away from you.

I know you are not asking for much but chances are, if you allow him to get away without helping around the house, it will get worse and you will be doing a lot more then you are now, it's called taking advantage and you gotta kick it in the bud now.

You also need to make sure he is helping with the baby as well, while you are cooking dinner or whatever, hand him the baby and tell him she/he needs a bottle while you cook dinner, hand him the bottle and go way. (of course, this is just an example, if you are nursing then obvously, he can't feed,LOL, just make sure he doesn't get so used to YOU doing everything, or that too will get worse and make sure it is something that he knows how to do without being intimidated or emabarrassed, whatever)

My hubby does his own laundry cause he used to complain about how I folded his pants,LOL. After a couple of complaints, I told him  that since they are his clothes and he wants it done in a particular way, that for now on, it is his job to do his laundry so I just quit doing it.............) Remember, we teach people how to treat us, you want to be manipulated, then don't do anything about your delemma, otherwise, stand up for your self.

You also need to make sure you thank him for providing for his family and for helping you  when he does, he needs to know that you appreciate him and it wouldn't hurt to do something special for him once in a while. Some how, you gotta convince him that you are a team and for the sake of your child, you have to start working together for this is just the beginning.................


 
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January 15, 2007, 2:37 pm PST

Woman Plus Tomas the Dog is GOOFY

A dog is a dog. Treat your husband better and he might be home more. If the dog drools on a pillow, it becomes YOUR pillow not his. Who worked to pay for the couch, bed pillows. You're goofy lady
 
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January 15, 2007, 2:41 pm PST

LOLLLLLLLLLL

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In the BIG scheme of life (and marriages), the age-old toilet paper dilema shouldn't even be on the radar!  Sadly, stupid little things like toilet paper are allowed to end marriages. After 17 years of marriage, my husband has finally given up wrestling w/ me to put the toilet paper on MY way. So, what does he now do? He just NEVER EVER changes the roll! Got to admit...we both won that one!

 

When the little issues are allowed to dictate the happiness or unhappiness in a marriage, the marriage has HUGE problems. It's time couples stop talking toilet paper and start talking to eachother and with professionals (counselors, pastors, etc).

If  an issue with toilet paper is the biggest  problem that a couple has then they need to be happy and feel fortuante to have found one another, settle the issue by whoever changes the roll, just does it, WHO CARES! I think some people would use any excuse to go on Dr. Phil, gotta be the center of atention! LOLLLLLLLL
 
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