Topic : 06/12 Marriage Deal-Breakers

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Created on : Friday, January 12, 2007, 02:21:42 pm
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(Original Air Date: 1/16/07) Rules, stipulations, conditions and ultimatums -- not exactly romantic pillow talk, but when it comes to marriage, what qualifies as a deal-breaker? Shane and Nikki got married four months ago. Nikki says that three days into their honeymoon, Shane told her that he wasn't sure he loved her enough to be married. He says he will give the marriage a six- to 12-month trial, and if it doesn't work, he's out. Nikki says there is no way she will stay in a trial marriage. Why did Shane marry Nikki in the first place? And, should Nikki wait for him to make a decision, or should she cut her losses and get out now? Then, Daniel and Debra are engaged and planning to get married in October, but Daniel says he's ready to call off the wedding if Debra doesn't stop asking him, "Do I look fat?" A recovering bulimic now weighing 100 pounds, Debra says she wants Daniel to support her recovery, and he is wrong to postpone the wedding. When Dr. Phil shows them a video of a previous anorexic guest, will Daniel and Debra change their outlook? Is there hope for this couple to make it down the aisle? Tell us!

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January 16, 2007, 7:40 am PST

OK! Enough!

These women to realize their self-worth and let go.  There are so many terriffic guys out there to meet!
 
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January 16, 2007, 7:41 am PST

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These desperate women make me sick!  Doing any old thing to keep some piece of man is just stupid to me.  Where is the self worth and value?  Any time a man tells you he doesn't want you - - THAT'S A DEAL BREAKER!  No further thought required!

 

I get so tired of women making excuses for their DUMB Ass men and taking their crap for years on end.  And, then, they act like they hit the lottery because the corralled some fool into marrying them and he still treats 'em like crap!  Then they spend the next couple of years crying and complaining because the fool doesn't love them.  Until, he hits the jackpot and leaves her for the love of his life - - some teenager in bobby socks sucking on a lolly pop!

 

Niki is a fool.  Move on.  You can do better if you DEMAND better. 

 

As for the lady with the eating problem, I don't blame the guy!  Why walk  into problems?  Some people just have too many issues and they should work on those issues before they burden someone else with them.  If she were a drug addict or an alcoholic, nobody would blame him if he didn't marry her! 

 
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January 16, 2007, 7:42 am PST

My Husband's getting a foot massage!

After hearing Shane's "state of the committment address" I am going to give my husband a foot massage tonight!  You can't go into a marriage doing the Hokey Pokey, one foot in one foot out etc.  You have to go into it with your whole self, the good the bad and the ugly.  Ideally beofre you make the trip down the aisle your intended should already know the good, the bad, and the ugly about you and love you anyway.

My husband had a horrible first marriage and he was very nervous inded about doing it again, as a matter of fact his hands had sweated so much I was able to slip a ring on his finger that was 1/2 a size to small, with no trouble at all!  My husband knew that marriage was important to me and he loved me enough to do it and there were no skeleton's in my closet when we were married.

 
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January 16, 2007, 8:24 am PST

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I am sorry you find yourself and your mate flawed. I never said any of those things was a flaw, you did, so obviously you are the one that thinks that... not I. You picked out all the things that you think are flawed and gleefully pointed them out. I don't think they are flawed at all. Maybe that is something you should think about. Work on your self esteem. Don't you wonder why you are so angry that someone is so happy? This is an interesting study in human nature. It's so easy to invoked emotions here. If you are tragic you get plied with overwhelming sympathy. If you are well adjusted happy and admit it you are vilified. Have a great day. I have to go to work. I'll be back later to see all the vitriol.
 Actually, I am a very happy person and my marriage is wonderful and I am the one married to my one and only, you are at your second take at it and for that I complimented you for finding that special some one. and it's nice to know that there is one perfect person in this world, that's nice, you have no room to grow and learn new things for you are perfect, kudos to you.

 I admit I am not perfect and neither is my husabnd, but I have been in a happy fullfilling marriage for overf a decade and it is my first marriage, seeing that you have been in a  failed marriage which of course I am sure was all him since you have no flaws, it helped you to know what you really needed in a  mate, too bad it took you the second go a round. I am also one of the most positive person around, I love life, even  though I grew up in a crappy home life, I was on my own doing as I please by the time I was 14 and here I am happy and successful   and married to the most wonderful man in the world, I have a great self esteem, and I am VERY well adjusted and happy so again, I think we agree more then you think we do, the differnece is I'm not perfect, you are.
 
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January 16, 2007, 8:26 am PST

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Boy you people are bitter. I am happy for people that are happy. I don't try to beat them down.

I have no reason to be bitter, Life is good and I'm also happy for people who are happy and if you actaully understood my posts, you would see that I'm happy that you are happy but I do not believe you are perfect. big big difference
 
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January 16, 2007, 8:30 am PST

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Boy you people are bitter. I am happy for people that are happy. I don't try to beat them down.

Why can't you see that I am actually supporting you as far as being happy and that you have found the guy that is perfect for you, I am in the same boat as you are. The only thing I am disagreeing with you on is the idea that you and your husband are perfect, that is the message you are applying through your postings but I am saying no human being is perfect, just because you have met the love of your life doesn't make a person perfect.
 
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January 16, 2007, 8:37 am PST

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These women to realize their self-worth and let go.  There are so many terriffic guys out there to meet!
and if they would not be so desperate and feel the need to be married to some jerk, they would be so much happier with themselves and they wouldn't fall into the trap of being miserable in a marriage with some one they can't make it with, there are too many people like this and then we, as a society, wonder why marriages end up in divorce, I for one am happy and glad with the idea that I waited and didn't settle for less then what I deserve, I got what I wanted, a loving, kind, honest, happy guy who fullfills my needs and desires and I found him the first time around, I didn't settle for less then what I deserved, he might not be perfect but I thank God and I feel very fortunate that I used my brain and didn't fall into the trap that would only lead to divorce. It's possible to achieve these things, it's just that some people are too desperate and can't stand the idea of being single, too bad people can't be happy with themselves. Life is good, certainly too short to end up with a no good mate.
 
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January 16, 2007, 8:38 am PST

The love isn't flawed, the individuals...

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I've followed the last several pages of this "Is real love 'work' " debate and have concluded, as I believe both purple & Jetta did a couple of pages ago, that much of this is a semantics debate. Like a chosen career that one is passionate about, the things one does to keep it going don't feel like 'work' because of the emotional/spiritual rewards received. Keeping up with the debate is beginning to be a lot like work...LOL

 

 I don't think anyone on these boards begrudges bear her 'perfection.' However, her last remark is a bit over the top. Humans are flawed beings, period (I'm 40+ and haven't met a perfect one yet.). Folklore, romance novels, and Hollywood to the contrary, love, as a human endeavor, is going to be, well, flawed. The beauty, however, is that real love accepts the flaws, bears the flaws, believes in spite of the flaws. This is where both of today's couples fall short.

are flawed.  We're not talking about human beings, though.  We're talking about the love.  The love is the perfect thing, that overlooks the individual flaws.  I can't speak for bear ta, but i think my husband is perfect, despite how he looks to other ppl.  No one is perfect of course, but for me, he's the perfect mate. 

 

The bond that's there may not need conscious "work" because it's a subconscious thing.  The term "work" implies that you expect to get something out of it.  When you love another human being, you don't expect anything in return.  I think that was where bear was coming from, but we'll have to hear from her to confirm that.  Hmm...

 
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January 16, 2007, 8:50 am PST

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I am sorry you find yourself and your mate flawed. I never said any of those things was a flaw, you did, so obviously you are the one that thinks that... not I. You picked out all the things that you think are flawed and gleefully pointed them out. I don't think they are flawed at all. Maybe that is something you should think about. Work on your self esteem. Don't you wonder why you are so angry that someone is so happy? This is an interesting study in human nature. It's so easy to invoked emotions here. If you are tragic you get plied with overwhelming sympathy. If you are well adjusted happy and admit it you are vilified. Have a great day. I have to go to work. I'll be back later to see all the vitriol.
Have a flawless day!
 
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January 16, 2007, 8:56 am PST

should i divorce this man?

 I'm forty - six yrs young, i married when i was 15 basically my mom gave me to this man knowing she would not have to keep me anymore. so thats where my story begins he is 54 only wanted to marry me so he could have sex when he wanted it and keep him warm in bed.this is what he told me i believe you marry for life. how naive could you be at 15 anyway? so anyway we've be married 31 yrs now or should i say I've been married for 31 yrs begging is a small word to describe what i have done for this marriage to work. we had two girls i turned my attention to them when they were growing up he wanted nothing to do with the family we always say we were the family he lived his life without us. he is a minister so he kept us in the dark about the appointments for his ministry,to this day he lives a secret life from mine. makes arrangements to go out of town to preach i find out just right before he leaves. he lies by omission, but says i don't need to know anything about his plans, the girls are now 27 and 28. we are alone all the time so he sleeps when not working i sit and watch it seems.I've very craft to keep me busy i tried to work this out he just refuses to talk at all. walks out of the room. i now can't stand him he has totally used all of my love up I'm now very repulsed by the sight of him but one problem i have is now I'm sick and can't work and would have no income if i divorced him , he doesn't even make enough to care for us his self employment has ruined us. i don't know what to do?  hate him no i don't, cause him any harm never. want to see him hurt no. i just want it over. he is so negative it is totally affecting my life i have lost hope , dreams, i don't even try to make myself happy anymore. i am just existing
 

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